posted October 21, 2012 06:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I wonder if you would consider re-posting that somewhere, so more people get to read it. Asteroid forum?

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That is so good. Beyond astrologer, you could be an English professor.

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Originally posted by Faith:
I'm wondering if you might show how Sag arises from Scorpio and moves into Cap? And I'm curious what you'd say about Cap extracting from Sag energy and transmuting towards Aquarius?

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Scorpio:
Mid-Autumn - A time when the dark forces of winter are well on their way to overcoming the light forces of summer. A time when subjective reality becomes more apparent than objective reality.
Function - Experiences the hidden/subjective world and experiences it's infinite height/depth/breadth as it uncovers the truth behind our objective world "a world unbound by the material, is infinite".
Sub-Ruler - Mars inspires Scorpio with an urgency to know "why?". They drill directly into hidden places without reservation or flinching.
Prime-Ruler - Pluto overcomes obstacles by transforming the Scorpio's perspective or relationship to the obstacle. In this way, Pluto acts as x-ray vision, passing through the material layer like light through a window, and exposing the underlying truth. Once the underlying truth is established, Pluto then sees through that form, to what exists deeper. Eventually the world becomes filled with an infinite number of subtly unique experiential layers or dimensions.

Sagittarius:
Autumn's End - A time when warmth must be sought out or created on our own within the overwhelming climate of winter. A time when objective reality is overwhelmed and swallowed by subjective reality.
Function - Explore the infinite space uncovered by Scorpio and blaze trails of experience and learn subjective lessons through objective means. Sag seeks to be an object who lives subjectively.
Sub-Ruler - Where Scorpio penetrates through obstacles, Neptune as Sag's sub-ruler dissolves all possible obstructions and leaves Sag to a vast space without any defined boundaries.
Prime-Ruler - Jupiter infuses Sagittarius with the desire to seek an ever broadening vantage point of reality. From philosophy to physical activity, Jupiter is insatiable for better, brighter, and greater.

Capricorn:
Winter Solstice - A time when the cold and dark of winter overcomes the light of summer completely. It is a time when we become subject to the results of the year's work. If we hunted, gethered, chipped wood, and built a shelter, we reap the benefits of a warm home and a full belly. If no work was done, we starve and freeze. This is a time when subjective reality becomes the most apparent reality.
Function - Capricorn takes all the paths experienced by Sagittarius and selects the ones which result in greatest benefit. All paths are organized and labeled based on their utility (This is what you do if you want to succeed. This is what you want to do if you want to fail).
Sub-Ruler - Uranus places Capricorn in a world which requires observation, adaptation, and a vast ability to configure and comprehend the ideal approach to each situation.
Prime-Ruler - Saturn infuses Capricorn with method and structure, utilizing any means necessary to construct and execute its responsibilities.

Aquarius:
Mid-Winter - A time when winter must contend with signs of summer's return. It is a time when dramatic stillness is shattered by dramatic storms, a time when electricity hangs in the air and everything sparkles prismatically in faint ethereal light. This is the time of year when ewes would begin to lactate, warning that soon lambs (and eventually rams) were soon to come. It is a time when the subjective must once again consider the importance of objective reality.
Function - Aquarius challenges the optimum paths chosen by Capricorn and leaves behind all paths which are not inclusive or applicable to every individual. An example of this is how 20 years ago, achieving success followed specific rules. After the invention of the internet however, access to success became readily available to anyone. Aquarius therefor requires a vast and abstract capacity for imagination in order to achieve an all-inclusive view which rises above prescribed systems.
Sub-Ruler - Saturn places Aquarius in a world of structure and rules, a world of strict rules just waiting to be broken.
Prime-Ruler - Uranus infuses Aquarius with idealism, abstract imagination, out-of-the-box thinking, and a desire for the upheaval of obsolete patterns.

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He might have been living vicariously through his characters without mentioning it to his kids.

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I have a feeling I am living through some unforgettable times.

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I'd love to be a fly on the wall when you two are talking. Must be super interesting. Do you two think you knew each other in past lives or anything?

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What kind of energy? Or I guess I mean, where? In the body, auras, or in the air all around?

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Do you still do this professionally ever?

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"Your living is determined not so much by what life brings to you as by the attitude you bring to life; not so much by what happens to you as by the way your mind looks at what happens."
~ Khalil Gibran

posted October 22, 2012 03:47 AM            

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I love your system of prime rulers/sub-rulerssss. I think I'm sold! Which sign would Eris sub-rule? I presume Taurus?

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Yep, Venus would be the prime-ruler and Eris the sub-ruler of Taurus. That is why Taurus lives in a world filled with objects of various shapes, sizes, textures, and flavors and is infused with the desire to appreciate, value, and qualify each sensational aspect of those objects.

I checked out your chart today. I can't say I'm surprised. I had a hard time seeing Virgo rising in you and you have always seemed very Uranian to me. Plus the hair is a dead give away for Leo rising.

posted October 22, 2012 10:54 PM            

Personally, I guess when she gets in front of the camera or steps on stage, she focuses her Uranus in Sagittarius? Maybe even Pluto air singleton in Libra, for all the colour and intensity...

posted October 23, 2012 12:09 AM            

'Got my soundtrack up even though I'm not totally satisfied with it: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/216207.html

Thanks for posting yours, Red....I LOVE that Heartlines song...I have Scorpio NN 4H. Still going through your playlist bit by bit.

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
I had a hard time seeing Virgo rising in you and you have always seemed very Uranian to me. Plus the hair is a dead give away for Leo rising.

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Yeah, I kept thinking, "any day now, I'll see the Virgo rising."

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I spent hours responding last night, left it over night to finish this morning, and discovered my stupid self closed my browser...

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Catastrophe! My posts are just humdrum prattle but I still preserve them by composing in my email program, which autosaves every minute or two, and then I keep them a few days in case LL's server goes ape and steals posts. Your posts are like jewels so I hope you consider something like that....

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The topic quickly trails off into people's adhered to astrological perspectives and why everyone else is wrong.

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That sounds terribly boring.

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My brain reminds me of Batty from FernGully

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ROTFL, I don't know what you posted, YouTube took the vid down, so I'm listening to Batty Rap and that is GREAT!

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
I'll summarize and you can read the more in-depth explanation if you edit my book. =)

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Yes please! I'll edit the book if you WRITE it! Actually, I'm hoping some of the stuff on this thread makes it into the book, just the way it is. I consider this part of my advance copy. =)

Loved your summaries, love the imagery, and your logic is beautiful. (Is that the Virgo moon, making such clean lines in your thinking?) 'Only thing I am confused about is how Sag and Aquarius seem alike in their boundlessness (I use the term loosely, begging your pardon), as opposed to Cap being restrictive. There is something in Cap that strains toward magic and mystery...maybe this is also part of our organizing effort...but I see it as something we pass on to Aquarius that enables them to do their thing (if that makes sense.)

Just as you have it here, and I know it was late and not your original masterpiece, I'm left wondering if Cap's work is just made obsolete by Aquarius' rejection of systems. (?)

Apart from that, I LOVE Uranus as sub-ruler of Cap, because we ARE crazy, and we need more validation of that fact.

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
There were several years we told our families we were traveling for the holidays and instead did Christmas or Thanksgiving alone together. I think we share a desire for the holidays to be stereotypically nostalgic, but our families are both so chaotic that it ruins the experience.

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That's wonderful...how many people have a friend like that?

I pretty much gave up on holidays in my early teens.

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
Nope, I have this problem with not liking to charge people for healing or psychic services.

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I understand and can imagine myself having a similar issue, if I ever became an actual healer. The thing is, with you, I think you offer such a valuable service, and there are people who don't want to avail themselves of your help unless they can pay you. Know what I mean? A standard patient-doctor paradigm can be healing in itself. The framework has security in it.

Not trying to persuade you of anything, just rambling....

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Instead I transformed my practice into a lifestyle.

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Which is fabulous, of course. Thank you.

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"Your living is determined not so much by what life brings to you as by the attitude you bring to life; not so much by what happens to you as by the way your mind looks at what happens."
~ Khalil Gibran

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*Lights up* He's my birthday twin! I'm usually right smack dab on his wavelength.

But I also have this book called The Profit which is a satire of The Prophet, and I honestly don't know which one I like better. Weird how my loyalties can be divided thusly.

You know you're tuckered out when you say thusly and decide to leave it there.

posted October 23, 2012 12:55 AM            

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Random: what sign or planet (or hell, even house) do you think Nicki Minaj embodies/personifies.

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She loves to shock people and then trample over them without looking back. It's all very Jupiter/Uranus.

posted October 23, 2012 02:04 AM            

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Faith: I LOVE that Heartlines song...I have Scorpio NN 4H. Still going through your playlist bit by bit.

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You're welcome! At my core, I really do just want to DO whatever I want. I honestly think I will sometime. I don't care if I lose contact with people. Maybe it's bad to think of people like places, but like places, people may change over time and you might lose track of them, but finding them again is like experiencing them all over! Seeing if you could become friends again all the same...it's a daunting challenge, and I welcome it.

I have a thing with not having things keeping me connected. My ideal home will be a home where I can come and go on a whim and it will look the same no matter what I do, touch down briefly, hermit for a week, etc.

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Faith: Yeah, I kept thinking, "any day now, I'll see the Virgo rising."

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posted October 23, 2012 02:22 AM            

For me, I said my ideal home would be a place "where I can come and go on a whim and it will look the same", and therefore, my ideal home promotes a sense of freedom. My Moon in Aquarius would love that, yeah? A sense of freedom, and control (which would come from Scorpio Venus, no?) No one will ever see inside it except for me. Totally private. I can go out and dance in bars or at house parties if I get restless, I don't need people coming over. My Venus is starting to play in...

Physically, I'd want it to be minimalistic, with enough room for me, alone. Preferably it will be tucked away. It doesn't need to be particularly fancy or high end expensive - second hand stores can have nice stuff too from time to time...I should get a condo! On an upper floor. With big windows! I want to be able to look down and observe whatever city I end up in. I'd want blank walls with "less is more" decor.

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Got my soundtrack up even though I'm not totally satisfied with it: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/216207.html

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I hope you consider something like that.

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I'm listening to Batty Rap and that is GREAT!

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I am confused about is how Sag and Aquarius seem alike in their boundlessness (I use the term loosely, begging your pardon), as opposed to Cap being restrictive.

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I would call Capricorn "definitive" or "conclusive" before I would refer to it as "restrictive". On a tactical level, Scorpio discovers the vast dark space within you that you play in when you close your eyes; it is the place where all your secrets are spoken aloud. By the time Scorpio evolves into Sagittarius, that internal space is so vast that objective reality becomes a tool for enriching and filling out that inner space. Imagine laying in bed before you fall asleep, and the feeling of your internal world sort of mixes with the dark bedroom so you feel as though that private space surrounds you. That is Scorpio. Now imagine that you are in the place right before you are about to fall asleep and you begin to dream you are galloping through a field on horseback. That hidden space becomes filled with the rush of excitement, adventure, and the prospect of possibility, it is very easy to forget you are still a person laying in a bed. That is Sagittarius.

The whole purpose of Sag is to go experience. Trips, scrapes, and bumps you just have to laugh through it, because the material world is trivial compared to the experiential world. The material world is a parable which teaches us there are benefits and consequences to our actions. Sag plots the course (via experience) for every path which leads to every benefit or consequence. When Sag can't physically travel, they still flesh each path out mentally and philosophize about the outcomes of each path.

Sag hands Capricorn the map of every possible path and the desire to acquire goodness. Of course Capricorn longs for magic and mystery, because all paths are laid before it. Very little is hidden or surprise to Capricorn and that inspires them to experience something unaccounted for. This is why some Capricorns can even take great pains to pretend to have issues or to ignore certain realities. It is a choice they make to add a bit of flavor to what they may see as a predictable life. Enduring a path to reap benefit is work to Capricorn, but there are always tricks to make work seem more fun or less difficult. When one is buys, the work seems to fly by, and finding exciting little tidbits in life (like enjoy the little moments, or the company of a friend, or a trip to the beach) is one of the ways Capricorn increases benefit, decreases isolation, and makes the tedium of their constant hard work enjoyable. All of that is part of the path though. Learning to enjoy the work is a path in its self. When I was a kid I was SO jealous of kids with imaginary friends. I wanted one really bad, but just couldn't comprehend why any rational person would believe an imaginary person wasn't completely fabricated by their own mind. I instead tried talking to plants, but that felt contrived too. Now I have a personally rational reason for why "imaginary" is just as valuable as "material" and I talk to both plants and imaginary people all the time without a second thought. =D

Capricorn can also be plagued with feeling like all its great ideas are also just a collection of ideas from other sources. So here we start to see a theme, the world is filled with predefined paths, chains of decisions and Capricorn is often faced with choosing which paths will result in the type of life it wants. At the end of Capricorn's sign, it knows every step it took to get to its present position. And by the time it transitions into Aquarius, it hands over all the paths which were in some way beneficial (these actions made me financially successful, this set of actions made my friends smile, these set of actions tend to make people communicate better together, these actions helped heal people in need while supporting those on a healthy path). All the information Capricorn passes on to Aquarius is useful and beneficial information and therefor Capricorn is very important. It is the proving ground for discovering the true good in the universe. We truly appreciate the benefit of chopping wood, when we are able to have a fire all winter. Where Capricorn defines the good things in life, Aquarius defines what's ideal.

Aquarius's hidden space is not like Capricorns, which methodically utilizes paths in organized and consecutive ways. Aquarius's hidden space is filled with all those paths being looked at simultaneously. Sort of how a Rubik's Cube is covered simultaneously with several different colors. Aquarius twists, ponders, and reconfigures those paths until they all make up one idealized construct, with all colors represented in a functional way. Where Capricorn hands off all beneficial paths, Aquarius rejects the exclusively beneficial paths and collects all inclusively beneficial paths. This is why Pisces is built with a conscience which sings to the tune of the Golden Rule, because Aquarius hands off to them the perfect path for the benefit of all.

Does that help clear up your question?

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I LOVE Uranus as sub-ruler of Cap, because we ARE crazy, and we need more validation of that fact.

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But I also have this book called The Profit which is a satire of The Prophet, and I honestly don't know which one I like better. Weird how my loyalties can be divided thusly.

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I am going to look at your email tomorrow. ttyl

posted October 24, 2012 03:38 AM            

Also, last interpretation request omg I feel needy lmfao! But the break down for the new two + Chiron are like this...

Ceres: 15 Leo, H12
conjunct Mars
square Sun

Even just a few words on each would be amazazing! Sorry for being such a beggar ahahahhahahahaha too knowledgeable of an archer.

posted October 24, 2012 04:59 AM            

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OHHHH and when you posted your musicified chart, Xiiro, Chiron got me thinking...if you were to christen him with a domicile and an exaltation, which signs do you think would be suitable?

Also, last interpretation request omg I feel needy lmfao! But the break down for the new two + Chiron are like this...

Chiron: 22 Virgo, H2
trine Neptune/Uranus
sextile Jupiter

Ceres: 15 Leo, H12
conjunct Mars
square Sun

Eris: 17 Aries, H9
trine Ceres/Mars
square Neptune
inconjunct Sun

Even just a few words on each would be amazazing! Sorry for being such a beggar ahahahhahahahaha too knowledgeable of an archer.

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Heya Red,

I played around with Chiron ruling Virgo a while ago, but that didn't work out. Personally I would apply Chiron to Ophiuchus if it was a sign, but the zodiac isn't based on the location or size of constellations, so it doesn't really apply. In myth, Ophiuchus was a healer who studied under Chiron and became so proficient, Pluto feared he would learn to cure death. Of course to satiate Pluto's whining, Zeus zapped Orpheus's a$$ and made him a constellation.

With Ophiuchus excluded, I would connect Chiron with Sagittarius. Chiron is basically Sagittarius in a wheel chair. LOL The concepts are similar, Chiron must learn to overcome suffering and Sagittarius must learn to overcome their mortality. Chiron however is like Sag/Aquarius/Virgo. There is a trail-blazing theme, a complete weirdo theme, and a healing theme.

Chiron: 22 Virgo, H2 - Reads something like "You must embrace careful service to a flawed material world"
trine Neptune/Uranus - You have the choice to separate your self from others spiritually, or use your imagination to lead others into experiencing their unconditional nature.
sextile Jupiter - If you put effort into mastering this lesson, you will evolve greatly and gain a fortunate gift. If you avoid this lesson, you can grow critical and unable to connect with the material world in a genuinely caring way.

Ceres: 15 Leo, H12 - You are truly nourished by those who honor and respect the genius of "who you are when you are alone". You in turn can nourish others by seeking out and honoring their solitary brilliance.
conjunct Mars - You don't feel as though you really know a person until you know their deep creativity. It is your cause in this life to nourish others from the inside out.
square Sun - The cause to nourish others conflicts with your sense of individuality. Often times you feel you are more equipped to understand others deeply, and this is certainly possible. It is also likely however, that you seek to hide your self from others, because the further they exert their selves toward knowing you deeply, the more it appears to you they care. In order to experience full nourishment, you can not withhold your self.

Eris: 17 Aries, H9 - You feel as though your spiritual path to comprehension of self is something no other person can relate with. It's something you have to do on your own. You may also feel out of sync with people spiritually. This is fine, because what works for you spiritually will not likely work for other people.
trine Ceres/Mars - Part of your unique spiritual path is your cause toward deep nourishing. You will do well to meditate on the idea that nourishing others, in some way nourishes you. Much of your self discovery comes from interactions with others who appreciate you deeply.
square Neptune - Your path of greater self discovery conflicts with your ability to view the world unconditionally. You can become caught in the idea that certain spiritual systems or personality traits in people are the answer to discovering your greater self, but these systems/traits keep you safe from facing life in an open and unconditional way. No system or set of contrived attitudes can tell you who you are, you can only discover that through experience.
inconjunct Sun - Your sense of individuality can agitate your path to greater spiritual awakening. You can become frustrated with certain habits and obsessions you perceive in your self. These annoyances don't just vanish because they pi$$ you off though. You must observe these annoyances as teaching tools, instructing you on your own humanity. Without flaws, we lack character.

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posted October 24, 2012 07:10 AM            

So with Eris in Aries for the next like million years, people will have to actively pursue comprehension through their own desire/volition, hm? And then house placement would be...the direction they have to take? Where they may find it? Like, for me, being H9, it will be a great path to me that I will blaze...

"Sagittarius is hard to follow because his independent spirit and mind constantly lead him to go further and higher."

posted October 24, 2012 08:24 AM            

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Time to start contributing (or at least trying to understand for myself)...

So with Eris in Aries for the next like million years, people will have to actively pursue comprehension through their own desire/volition, hm? And then house placement would be...the direction they have to take? Where they may find it? Like, for me, being H9, it will be a great path to me that I will blaze...

"Sagittarius is hard to follow because his independent spirit and mind constantly lead him to go further and higher."

Eris will be in Taurus during 2044 to 2094 apparently. Another source says "Eris enters Taurus (for last time, to stay) 9th March 2048". Conflicts aside, what might that mean? Comprehension will come through...meditating (or dwelling) on something until realisation comes to you?

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The way I am understanding Eris so far is, inside it feels like how we are disharmonious with the world. It is the grand illusion of our life which makes us feel separate from the rest of the world. In Aries, Eris feels like our discovery, pursuit, and exploration of self separates us from everyone else. In Pisces, it was the world a person built, based on their trials and challenges, which made their personal experience unique. In Taurus, Eris would probably emphasize the person's physical/material possessions as being their separating factor. In a time when so much is becoming digital and genetically modified, it doesn't seem like too much of a stretch that ones material possessions would separate them from others, in an otherwise virtually connected and digitally important world.

The House in which Eris is found, represents the area of the person's life their separation is most noticeable, or realistic. In my case, Eris is in the 12th and I feel very strongly that when I am not alone in the comfort of solitude, I am neglecting my self. All of my realizations about self are not realizations I share without being asked, because I believe they only apply to me personally. Until I started researching Eris, I believed this to be true about everyone. Just because it seems to me to be the logical way to function (as I identify that function within myself).

posted October 24, 2012 11:09 PM            

Thanks, you two, for the songs on the soundtrack thread, I like so many of them. Xiiro, I was also thinking of Enjoy the Silence, no kidding, for my 8H moon. And Personal Jesus for the Cap sun...which, btw, was the most difficult thing for me to find just one song for. I think Cap is like a big warehouse, because we take so much on and then cling to it.

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I am about to check it out, but I got caught in a Blue Loop.

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Yeah and that was another good song. =)

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Part of Sag and Aquarius's energies being less restrictive also has to do with their masculine and feminine polarities...Capricorn is an archetype which invites data in, internalizes their experiences, and seeks to contain concepts to preserve their utility. Sag and Aquarius impose data, externalize their experiences, and seek to strip away definition in order to experience concepts in new ways.

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Hmmmm....really? Of the three signs, Cap seems pushiest to me...the one most likely to impose data on you. But I see the "femininity" that impulse is rooted in, it's a nurturing thing, ie "For God's sake, for your own good, put a damn coat on."

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That hidden space becomes filled with the rush of excitement, adventure, and the prospect of possibility, it is very easy to forget you are still a person laying in a bed. That is Sagittarius.

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That and the whole paragraph leading up to it...pleeease put that in the book! It's genius! I've been happily haunted by that imagery since I read it.

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This is why some Capricorns can even take great pains to pretend to have issues or to ignore certain realities. It is a choice they make to add a bit of flavor to what they may see as a predictable life.

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Who me?

Well, I think I am an atypical Cap, thanks to my SN in the 10H. It's my destiny to learn how NOT to work.

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When I was a kid I was SO jealous of kids with imaginary friends.

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That's cute, though. I'm wondering how you thought about Jesus when you were small...was he imaginary to you or real?

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Capricorn can also be plagued with feeling like all its great ideas are also just a collection of ideas from other sources. So here we start to see a theme, the world is filled with predefined paths, chains of decisions and Capricorn is often faced with choosing which paths will result in the type of life it wants.

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CHAINS. Right! The chains...karma...all of that is so Capricorn.

Maybe I should have picked Gordon Lightfoot's If You Could Read My Mind for the Cap sun song:

If you could read my mind, love,
What a tale my thoughts could tell.
Just like an old time movie,
'Bout a ghost from a wishing well.
In a castle dark or a fortress strong,
With chains upon my feet.
You know that ghost is me.
And I will never be set free
As long as I'm a ghost that you can't see.

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Capricorn is very important.

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See, I knew I liked you for some reason.

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
Where Capricorn hands off all beneficial paths, Aquarius rejects the exclusively beneficial paths and collects all inclusively beneficial paths....Does that help clear up your question?

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Very much so. I hope you're thinking of putting how each sign transitions into the next in your book (not begging just saying, I'd love to see the whole zodiac layed out sequentially like that). I've seen the concept before, but never explained half as well. Actually, I've been thinking that you have the capacity to revolutionize astrology in many respects, because your thinking is so informed and flexible... then your literary force can drive almost any point home.

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In my case, Eris is in the 12th and I feel very strongly that when I am
not alone in the comfort of solitude, I am neglecting my self.

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Wow. Makes sense that you thought of becoming a monk, then.

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Eris: 17 Aries, H9 - You may also feel out of sync with people
spiritually.... This struggle to find your "religious" self sets you apart from the other people you know.

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Hits the nail on the head for me.

Always grateful for your explanations, Xiiro.

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Faith: Of the three signs, Cap seems pushiest to me...the one most likely to impose data on you.

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posted October 25, 2012 02:25 AM            

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Faith: Love that house picture you posted, Red. I also like minimalist interiors...actually, I've been obsessed with the tiny house movement (aka gypsy wagon movement) for a while now, as well as boat living and car living. I guess it's my 4H Uranus & NN in Scorpio? Really into pared down spaces.

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posted October 25, 2012 05:29 PM            

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Some people might easily influenced or more mindful of others, but Capricorn is much more internal to the point they don't worry nor care about who they plough through/over.

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Oh, right! Yes, now I see.

How cool would it be to live in an actual vardo?

posted October 28, 2012 05:22 AM            

It's so cool to hear you are both into Tiny Houses. I am hoping to set one up to live in when I move to Hawaii. I also love the whole concept of rooms that convert into other rooms. So a lot of the designs I have been drawing up are based on flexible space.

Things like:
This - Transformer Apartment
This - The CUBE (dun dun dunnnn)
And This - FlexiFurnature
Make me happy

The plant world here is feeling the season change. We are experiencing a Santa Ana right now and that is confusing for my poor plants. Not sure if you have ever experienced one, but their are surreal. A Santa Ana happens when Southern wind comes up from Mexico and we experience them almost every year around Spring and Autumn. In the Spring, the air is warm, but the wind is dry and cool. So you feel dry, cold, and hot at the same time. In Autumn, the air is cool, but the wind is dry and warm, so the same sensation happens. Often A Santa Ana comes with strong gusts of wind, but this year the air has been still.

Unfortunately for plants, this kind of climate dehydrates EVERYTHING... I am always intrigued by the wind and temperature weirdness, but loathe the dryness. Lucky you to get fog, humidity is part of the reason I love Hawaii. My skin, hair and nails, just thrive in it. I think cool (not cold) and humid would make my ideal climate.

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Originally posted by Faith:
And Personal Jesus for the Cap sun...which, btw, was the most difficult thing for me to find just one song for.

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Originally posted by Faith:
Hmmmm....really? Of the three signs, Cap seems pushiest to me...the one most likely to impose data on you. But I see the "femininity" that impulse is rooted in, it's a nurturing thing, ie "For God's sake, for your own good, put a damn coat on."

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I think Red did a good job at elaborating and I would like to add that When Capricorn does impose rules, they are based on maintenance, sanity, and containment. You do it for God's sake, or the sake of your own good, because it maintains a steady and sane flow toward one's goal (health, wealth, happiness, what have you); you put on a coat, because it maintains your health and an enjoyable temperature. Sag and Aquarius will both bump into each other while streaking in the snow.

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Originally posted by Faith:
Well, I think I am an atypical Cap, thanks to my SN in the 10H. It's my destiny to learn how NOT to work.

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Considering your NN I would guess you are planning on being an Aquarian in the future.

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Originally posted by Faith:
I'm wondering how you thought about Jesus when you were small...was he imaginary to you or real?

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CHAINS. Right! The chains...karma...all of that is so Capricorn.

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See, I knew I liked you for some reason.

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I hope you're thinking of putting how each sign transitions into the next in your book

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Originally posted by Faith:
Wow. Makes sense that you thought of becoming a monk, then.

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posted October 29, 2012 02:33 PM            

How's life? I've never experienced a Santa Ana, but it sounds nice and tranquil right now. I hope your plants come out of it okay!

We are getting hammered with winds from the north as I write... and expecting that massive storm from the south later. My family is traveling to our other house in this mess, in a few hours. Wish us luck!

I LOVE the Lego house, already watched The Cube video...but prefer this one. I love FlexiFurniture, too. And I live here in my mind sometimes.

My house here has only two bedrooms and a loft. My daughter's in the loft, and I have four boys in one room. They don't mind it at all. Other than that we have a great room and two bathrooms, and an above-ground basement for laundry and storage. Simple.

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
I didn't go with my first idea Alive because I already had a Goldfrapp song.

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The video images are so distracting it's hard for me to focus on the lyrics. Will try again when the wind isn't trying to knock my house over.

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
Sag and Aquarius will both bump into each other while streaking in the snow.

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Yeah and they will both call Uncle Cappy when they need help with medical bills for the pneumonia they contracted doing that... heheh kidding. Sag and Aqua are famous and popular, if they ever have trouble, all their friends will chip in without being asked. Right? So I'm glad that I might be an Aquarius next.

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
It is almost like your Sun is set up like a makeshift Aquarius. Considering your NN I would guess you are planning on being an Aquarian in the future.

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But I don't really understand that.

Wild guesses:

1) Retrograde Leo Saturn is saying, "No way, I don't want to be a Leo, make me the OPPOSITE!"
2) My nodal axis is helping me skip along through the fixed signs, and the next fixed frontier is Aquarius.
3) You have a magical, quantum logic at your disposal, from which you extract these truths.

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
Capricorn's tarot card "The Devil"

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Sh*t, why is Capricorn the Devil? Why are we always the whipping boy?

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
The symbolism generally indicates things which we believe enslave us, yet are easily overcome by just letting go and walking away.

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Hmm. I like that, though. That's how I feel walking away from the Christianity I bound myself to for so long, which has no hold over me anymore.

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
Yep, between your ASC, and Red's/my Mars we have a regular lion's den going on in here. lol

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Good thing we all like small spaces!

Let's see, how about this, our thrones are hidden inside the cave walls and fold down. Banquet table pops up from cave floor complete with solid gold plateware with fresh fruit and whatever else we want to eat.

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Definitely, I feel it's important people experience the zodiac as a living and flowing spectrum.

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Yes, so true. Glad you're thinking of including that.

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Uranus will actually cross my Eris in 2014, I admit I'm nervous.

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At least you will have lived past 2012! Hmm, what kind of craziness do you imagine might happen? Uranus passing through my 8H was really bizarre, I almost wish I had prepared for it in advance. Some of the weirdness ended abruptly when the sun transited my Pholus. (A word that makes me nervous to type, for fear that I will spell it wrong. Double checking...)

Thanks so much for your comprehensive email about diet. I hope to reply soon, if electricity remains available. And I've been eating more fruit but *doing it wrong* (that includes mixing it with fat AND buying oranges that turned out extremely fibrous but eating them anyway...telling my guts to just deal with the minor abrasions.) But...just to give you a preview of what I'm going to say on email, you make more sense to me than Dr. Graham and the 30 Bananas people. I might try it for a few weeks, if I can muster up the discipline.

posted October 29, 2012 05:37 PM            

I had seen the two links you posted before (I'm kinda a fanatic lol), I like the one in Anjou a lot. It seems spacious for a tiny space. Here are a few more Tiny House designs I enjoy.
Cool little house
Yes Please!
Floaty goodness

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Originally posted by Faith:
The video images are so distracting it's hard for me to focus on the lyrics. Will try again when the wind isn't trying to knock my house over.

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There is also the more serious perspective of how parasitic relationships can be, how we rely so heavily on others to recharge our pride, safety, worth, ecstasy, etc. There is a sinister aspect to symbiosis when one thinks of it in terms of consumption. This video is multi-layered for me, because it sings a song of spiritual elation with life, conveys the lyrics from an ironic perspective, and makes a philosophical point about how we are wired to acquire spiritual fulfillment through the consumption and expense of our external world.

With Sag Sun 8H there are strong moments of spiritual and philosophical elation followed by deep drops into comprehending the severity of life. Sorry If I told this story before - When I was at the monastery, I worked as a counselor through their annual youth retreat. In a group discussion, the topic of veganism arose and one of the boys mentioned that because he lived on a farm, his family relied on animal products. The nun conducting the group asked people to express their ideas about what the boy should do. So I raised my hand (as I do) and mentioned that plants have been documented to react electromagnetically, to environmental dangers. If the plant is cut, if their neighboring plants are cut, if a fire is near by, the plants react with distress.

I mentioned that even vegans have to kill in order to live, and as long as the boy knows what he is eating, respects that the animal gave it's life so he could live, and made steps to try to remove or reduce the amount of suffering which goes into sustaining his body, then at least he is respecting what goes into his body. Needless to say, the nun seemed perturbed that i mentioned the possibility of plants having feelings, but that is the raw reality of our condition and the Buddha taught that.

When asked how we should eat food, the Buddha told a story about a family who crossed a great desert. As they got closer to their destination, the parents realized they wouldn't have enough food to survive, but knew if they killed and ate their child, they would make it out of the desert alive. The Buddha suggested we eat our food the way those parents ate their child. The flavor, aroma, and enticements of the food are completely pointless, because you are forced to feed on a precious life for your own survival (be it plant or animal). The only way to respect what you eat is by recognizing its sacrifice and vowing to use it's energy in a way which helps the world.

This kind of perspective is common for Sag 8H, If we allow our self to ponder something for too long, we face the light AND the dark of that thing. The only way to stay sane is to accept that both has its place. =)

LOL or it could just be a stupid video about vampire aerobics. =D

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Sag and Aqua are famous and popular, and if that doesn't keep them out of trouble, all their friends chip in without being asked.

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But I don't understand. What you talkin' bout Willis?

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Saturn Rx in mutual reception with Sun, creates a tandem relationship between your sense of individuality and an inverse Saturn. Where Saturn direct is concerned with building structures in the world, Saturn retrograde is focused mostly with forming internal structures. All the laws, fears, and sewing of experience is internalized. In the 12th House, the internalization is magnified and your internal space becomes a place of always reminding your self take a coat, and slapping your self around if you disobey. Your own private torture chamber wee. Fortunately, Saturn is 0 degrees, so even though the rules can't be broken, they are often based on immature ideals. This gives you the opportunity to veto them with logic (yay Mercury Aquarius). This energy is directly involved with (mutual reception) your sense of individuality and its ability to serve the rest of the world (6th House).

Where these energies are pieced together, you find a person constantly having to outwit oppressive structures, in order to express their self as an individual. And that individuality is viewed in the light of service to humanity.

Aquarius lives in a world of structures and is forced to challenge those structures in order to communicate their individuality. This struggle infuses them with ideals which support/accept humanity in its expression of individual uniqueness.

Your NN and Uranus are both in Scorpio. There are several other indicators, but they are subtle.

Kinda cool hu?

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Originally posted by Faith:
Sh*t, why is Capricorn the Devil? Why are we always the whipping boy?

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Originally posted by Faith:
Let's see, how about this, our thrones are hidden inside the cave walls and fold down. Banquet table pops up from cave floor complete with solid gold plateware with fresh fruit and whatever else we want to eat.

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Originally posted by Faith:
Uranus passing through my 8H was really crazy, I almost wish I had prepared for it in advance.

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Good luck on your storms, and please keep us posted so we know you are safe.