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Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 3016 From: Asheville, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted January 04, 2014 09:46 AM
quote: Originally posted by Odette: Oh right. She did.Are you ever wrong my darling? I mean this is getting ridiculous. Are all the women on LL dating jerks right now? Am I dating a jerk and lying about it? Maybe I have him hidden under my bed.
Speaking of which it is cramped under there, when can I come out? I do think some facts are women and men in the US are waiting longer to enter a marriage, and it is more likely that multiple partners prior to entering a exclusive relationship means it is less likely for that relationship to last. Marriage, is a dying institution in the West for better or worse. IP: Logged |
Faith Moderator Posts: 6450 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 04, 2014 09:46 AM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: But you and the other women of the forum have tried telling me that the reason I have trouble is women pick up on my " negative energy" ..... Now you already know how i feel about all that new agey Mumbo jumbo crap . But suppose it is true .... If women can pick up on vibes/energies, wouldn't they pick up on the negative energy of players, woman abusers etc. I mean if anybody had " negative energy/vibes " it would be those guys right ?
Do you really suppose it's true? Seriously? Because there's no point in explaining any further if you're being sarcastic. Keep in mind, when women move away from you, and you assign meaning to their movement, you are interpreting their vibes. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 50876 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 04, 2014 09:52 AM
Women like bad boys because bad boys touch their low self esteem, basically. They feel they deserve to be treated badly.IP: Logged |
Faith Moderator Posts: 6450 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 04, 2014 09:54 AM
quote: Originally posted by Padre35: A little tip AG, women really do not care how "you" or "I" feel, what they care about is how "we" make them feel.
Not true. I'm a woman and I seriously do care how other people feel. This is why I stayed with my college boyfriend for so long...I didn't want him to be in pain from the breakup. IP: Logged |
Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 3016 From: Asheville, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted January 04, 2014 10:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: Not true. I'm a woman and I seriously do care how other people feel. This is why I stayed with my college boyfriend for so long...I didn't want him to be in pain from the breakup.
Or how you'd feel about him being in pain? Ultimately, did you break up with him? IP: Logged |
Faith Moderator Posts: 6450 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 04, 2014 10:01 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Women like bad boys because bad boys touch their low self esteem, basically. They feel they deserve to be treated badly.
True, and what happens is, these men succeed in lowering the women's self-esteem even further. So typically, they start believing that no one except the jerk they're with will tolerate them. It IS an age thing, though, because some people do learn from experience...so, while younger girls might not see what they're getting into, women who have "been there, done that" and recovered won't repeat the mistake. My best friend is one of them. Dated a few SERIOUS jerks and now she is so picky that she's lonely, even though she has men contacting her constantly. IP: Logged |
Faith Moderator Posts: 6450 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 04, 2014 10:05 AM
quote: Originally posted by Padre35: Or how you'd feel about him being in pain?Ultimately, did you break up with him?
I was trying to break up with him from the start but he was really into me (????) and got very emotional...pulled my heartstrings, so I would go back to him, try to get things to work. Second time I broke up with him, apparently he spent the summer in full-blown mourning. So we started talking a bit when school started again and when he told me how wrecked he was about the break-up, I.... Yes! Got back together with him! Ultimately I did break up with him but not until he told me one night that he would be fine if we broke up. And he was cocky about it. That's what I needed to hear, to leave.
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Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 3016 From: Asheville, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted January 04, 2014 10:06 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: True, and what happens is, these men succeed in lowering the women's self-esteem even further. So typically, they start believing that no one except the jerk they're with will tolerate them. It IS an age thing, though, because some people do learn from experience...so, while younger girls might not see what they're getting into, women who have "been there, done that" and recovered won't repeat the mistake. My best friend is one of them. Dated a few SERIOUS jerks and now she is so picky that she's lonely, even though she has men contacting her constantly.
IDK if it is as simple as that tho Faith, the bad boy type does tend to be physically attractive and has a high value socially. Those things matter more to most, not all, young women. As time moves along those traits become less important, rarely unimportant altogether though. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 50876 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 04, 2014 10:14 AM
True, and what happens is, these men succeed in lowering the women's self-esteem even further. You can't blame the outside. If I see a piece of great cheesecake and eat it, it is not the cheesecakes fault  ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 3016 From: Asheville, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted January 04, 2014 10:21 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: I was trying to break up with him from the start but he was really into me (????) and got very emotional...pulled my heartstrings, so I would go back to him, try to get things to work. Second time I broke up with him, apparently he spent the summer in full-blown mourning. So we started talking a bit when school started again and when he told me how wrecked he was about the break-up, I.... Yes! Got back together with him! Ultimately I did break up with him but not until he told me one night that he would be fine if we broke up. And he was cocky about it. That's what I needed to hear, to leave.
To my point "pulled my heart strings" "told me how wrecked he was" "he was cocky" This is somewhat what I alluded to, one was ready to dump him, he made you feel a certain way that effected you, so you changed your mind. Made/caused, either way, whatever the first reason to break up did not effect you enough to follow through with it, twice, once he got cocky, THAT was enough for you. IP: Logged |
Faith Moderator Posts: 6450 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 04, 2014 10:25 AM
Your point seemed to be that women lack genuine empathy, and the pulling of my heartstrings was a form of empathy, countering your point. IP: Logged |
Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 3016 From: Asheville, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted January 04, 2014 10:31 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: Your point seemed to be that women lack genuine empathy, and the pulling of my heartstrings was a form of empathy, countering your point.
To a point, will say ones emotions overcame whatever logic or emotion that led to the desire to break up w/him. And it also could be said, when dealing with such a subject, it is impossible to know if it it were empathy, or guilt. Or viewed another way, the last break up w/him being cocky about it meant all sense of guilt for a breakup is removed, after all, he had it coming for having that attitude. To me this is why such subjects make for such contentious topics in Sweet Peas. IP: Logged |
Faith Moderator Posts: 6450 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 04, 2014 10:46 AM
It wasn't that he had it coming, his tone didn't change my feelings into revenge, it was that the cockiness gave added assurance to me that he would indeed be fine about the break-up.You can psychoanalyze from a distance all you want, but your tendency to revise my version of the story to a darker shade ("it wasn't empathy, it was probably guilt") just indicates to me that you either have listening problems or for whatever reason insist on being the authority about matters outside your range of expertise (such as, my life.) IP: Logged |
Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 3016 From: Asheville, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted January 04, 2014 10:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: It wasn't that he had it coming, his tone didn't change my feelings into revenge, it was that the cockiness gave added assurance to me that he would indeed be fine about the break-up.You can psychoanalyze from a distance all you want, but your tendency to revise my version of the story to a darker shade ("it wasn't empathy, it was probably guilt") just indicates to me that you either have listening problems or for whatever reason insist on being the authority about matters outside your range of expertise (such as, my life.)
Never said "wasn't" or "probably" that is a projection. Which is not unusual in this thread, I've been named everything from "Angry" to "old school" to now a wannabe psycho analyst. Amazing really IP: Logged |
Faith Moderator Posts: 6450 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 04, 2014 11:02 AM
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Violets Knowflake Posts: 1674 From: Twin Peaks Registered: Apr 2011
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posted January 04, 2014 11:36 AM
Steve Carell on character Michael Scott. http://youtu.be/q8cACDVJjQE IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 6469 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted January 04, 2014 01:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by Xodian: I don't have a problem with Monogamy... When it is used as means for development for both partners; And not some crudely manifested ideals of it being a conduit to idiotic projects such as being "the perfect housewife."My wife is NOT a glorified housekeeper! Nor do I expect her to adhere to some notion of "traditionalist family values." I am with her because of her talents, her intelligence and her fiery spirit; And that she is my life long teacher as am I to her. Well that is how take Marriage and what it is supposed to be. I mean, that seems like a good deal doesn't it? As opposed to trying to get women to adhere to some subservient ideal to validate your own self?
Do you have a brother and does he happen to live in the Midwest? Seriously though, I read the OP and got excited because I love talking about this but as usual....it got wittled down. Like can we never just IGNORE some things for the sake of a lively and informative thread... IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 8216 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 04, 2014 03:13 PM
^well by all means say what's on your mind. Nobody is stopping you.IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 6469 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted January 04, 2014 04:23 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: ^well by all means say what's on your mind. Nobody is stopping you.
Oh but I would! It's just I'm late for a date with a bad boy. Toodles. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 8216 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 04, 2014 04:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: Oh but I would! It's just I'm late for a date with a bad boy. Toodles.
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Odette Knowflake Posts: 3247 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted January 04, 2014 05:26 PM
Yup here we go again.AG and Padre going on about their bad boy obsession. Ridiculous. lol I'll just post gifs that exemplify ridiculousness whenever you start this on any thread. Gif of the day: IP: Logged |
Odette Knowflake Posts: 3247 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted January 04, 2014 05:30 PM
Xodian - *big thumbs up* on everything you said - and on you just being *you*  I'm sorry to say this but I'm pretty private and I haven't given anyone on LL my FB. I can give you my email addy if you like!IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 6610 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted January 04, 2014 05:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by Padre35: IDK YTA, have you ever watched Millionaire Matchmaker?Those fellas put the AWK in socially awkward, money does not hurt to be sure, it is not the be all end all as the gentleman can be so socially creepy they wound up repelling rather then attracting.
Well, not all of them. There are some of those guys who genuinely have their heads screwed on properly and are genuinely trying. The nouveau riche young do encounter problems that eventually resolve themselves with age. Honestly, there are more creepy women on that show than creepy guys, but that's the name of the game. When I was a kid, I had a different sort of creepy persona. More like quiet and aloof, often described as stuck up. But as always, I had those who couldn't stand me and those who adored me. I'm complex. The autistic ones usually are. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 6610 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted January 04, 2014 05:37 PM
http://youtu.be/f4MRmEPNUxY IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 6469 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted January 04, 2014 05:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by Odette: Yup here we go again.AG and Padre going on about their bad boy obsession. Ridiculous. lol I'll just post gifs that exemplify ridiculousness whenever you start this on any thread. Gif of the day:
ROFL!
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