posted January 01, 2014 09:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
@ AG--
Eh...I worked with a guy who was physically attractive (too much so, for my liking, as he came across as rather taken with himself), and he would try to schmooze me and I practically ran away screaming from him. I made my supervisor train him, hahahaha. So I think that some women simply don't want to be bothered with conversation. And then maybe some of them are just really shallow. I don't know.

But one thing that happened to me while I was walking home from work one night was scary after it happened.
I worked on Broadway (at a normal retail store), and lived close by so always walked home. I was wearing what I normally wore at that time (2002-ish). A black skirt, fishnet stockings, black boots, some sort of blouse or something, and a long-ish jacket. That was a pretty normal thing for people to wear in that neighborhood, and in that city in general. At least it wasn't ABnormal. And Seattle is generally a pretty safe city, in most areas.

I was stopped by three guys who said they were from Dallas (a LONG way from Seattle, both in distance and culture), and they started asking me a bunch of weird questions. I was friendly, though not remotely attracted to any of them. It was Broadway, for Pete's sake. People say and do weird stuff all the time there, it's no big deal.
But it soon became apparent that they had other motives, and as they crowded in on me I actually had to pull out my phone in case I had to call 911.

It all seemed so surreal and absurd to me, because, I mean...it was right on Broadway, with tons of people walking around. I was basically not even taking them seriously at all, and just walked away from them with an "uh...are you joking?" expression.

But about a block away my knees started to shake, and I realized that they had really, really bad intentions.

Where you live and where you're from really does make a difference, I think.

Anyway, random story about people from different areas having different stereotypes about how people dress. They probably took the next bus back to Dallas where they could feel free to harass women dressed in a certain way. But I can tell you that it ain't happenin' on Broadway in Seattle.

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posted January 01, 2014 09:59 PM            

But as it dawned on me as I walked home, I did start to shake. What I was wearing was reasonably normal for the neighborhood (a very pricey neighborhood I might add) and the city (also quite pricey) that I lived in.

posted January 01, 2014 10:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
No, I know. It was just a random story that's sort of related to the topic (kind of).

I was directing the story about my attractive coworker who I didn't want anything to do with to you, haha. Sometimes women just don't want to be bothered, but yeah...it's probably difficult for guys who are just genuinely being friendly like they would be with any guy, or their mom, or whoever.

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posted January 01, 2014 10:21 PM            

Racism, sexism, homophobia

Look at the media.. it's so overtly sexual and politically correct..
Being conversative is now becoming taboo...

posted January 01, 2014 11:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
So Implicitly you just agreed again that the world is changing and women, according to you have gone wild - as you keep telling us on LL.

So you disagree with Padre about the current state of the world because you don't agree that women are looked down upon for being sexual. Actually you think women are too sexual now and our society should be more "conservative" - as it used to be.

This is completely different to what Padre is saying - just pointing that out.

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I do believe that is known as solipsism Odette.

posted January 02, 2014 12:12 AM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
I do believe that is known as solipsism Odette.

This is one of the things that women do that I find hillarious

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posted January 02, 2014 01:36 AM            

When I was a runaway I knew plenty of boys and girls who turned tricks. Both genders had to turn tricks with men, women didn't pay street rats of any age for it.

As about always there's an exception to the rule. In this case was a carload of women who'd let out a woman, different each time but looking about the same age as the other women (roughly 20 give or take) who was obviously a fish out of water in mixing with street elements and bargaining to pay for sex. And this woman would pay a guy (typically one of the runaway boys who were actually straight though the women had a definite preference for the older boys who looked at least close to 18) to let her give him a BJ while the women in the car watched. And in every case it was somewhere with minimal privacy and the danger of social exposure existed (usually a certain park). And she never came back (though the car did to let out another woman).

As best as we could figure it those women were part of a sorority and this was an initiation. The women weren't into it they were just about getting it over with. I think the entire thing was intended to be humiliating and scary to get into whatever club it was. (Of course asking was simply not done, and if we were right there's no way they'd tell us the truth that could expose them. My guess is that this is no longer done in the day when anyone, from the women in the car to even the homeless, could catch the moment on their phone.)

Has anyone heard of anything like this? I have heard of sexual hazing in fraternities that sometimes mixed with sororities (some of them downright surreal) and various unpleasant, degrading (including sexual), juvenile, and downright sadistic rituals of all sorts do seem to get practiced by adults (interesting enough teen hazing often gets winked at, the infamous Glenbrook North High School hazing where girls beat other girls and smeared them with feces even had alcohol provided for them by parents). In any case no one thought the women were paying to give BJ because they desired the act, but because it was considered shameful, self-degrading, and dangerous to do so, that is bonds of solidarity through self-inflicted **** shaming.

posted January 02, 2014 02:31 AM            

I met a few Australians once and they were attractive bleach blonde tan and loved "Pattyn"
I wanted to ask more questions but they were kinda busy pattyn.
Though one mentioned all the ******* flies you have to deal with which was kinda random..
I've painted this picture in my head that you guys are a lot of fun..
Didn't some Aussie kid throw the greatest house party of all time.. I think the movie Project X was based on him.

Oh I've been watching an Australian teen drama on netflix but It's obviously highly dramatized.... One of the characters is really cute so I can't stop watching LOL....

LOL you're probably like wtf -___-

posted January 02, 2014 02:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Well some would feel shame over walking around naked but they might still choose to overcome their shame and go to a nudist beach for instance... or streak at a major televised event.

And after the event they may well be proud of their actions..

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posted January 02, 2014 02:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Well some would feel shame over walking around naked but they might still choose to overcome their shame and go to a nudist beach for instance... or streak at a major televised event.

And after the event they may well be proud of their actions..

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posted January 02, 2014 03:38 AM            

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paying to suck the homeless off

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Well I guess this was a kink for them If you are wondering what they got out of it - it might be a number of things.. but it was probably also a sexual turn on.

Others put their lives in danger by being daredevils or doing seriously crazy things, e.g. Jacka*s.
Giving an unhygienic person a BJ.. would likewise be putting oneself in danger.

Maybe they like the adrenaline rush.

What makes you think they wouldn't share this on FB?

Not everyone has the same limits.
Maybe their 'club' has an FB page.

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My guess is that this is no longer done in the day when anyone, from the women in the car to even the homeless, could catch the moment on their phone.

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Actually - I saw a porn vid on youporn where two people had sex on a public bus, during the day - and the others on the bus were just surprised or laughing. It happened in Berlin.

This 'shame' thing is unbelievably subjective. The average person going about their day... would ignore the bj situation and walk on.
LoL ..seriously - If I saw someone giving someone else a bj in the street.. I'd just be like "umm ok.. strange" - then I'd keep walking and think about whatever else was on my mind previously.
The person in that situation would imagine it to be embarrassing - and probably get their jollies out of the embarrassment and public exposure .. when most people could care less about them having sex.. (unless they were famous).

Others are exhibitionists, so they wouldn't be embarrassed at all - but rather just want to shock the onlookers or put on a show and get attention for it.

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Glenbrook North High School hazing where girls beat other girls and smeared them with feces even had alcohol provided for them by parents)

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I don't know anything about this incident - but if girls "beat" other girls.. that means it was unwanted.. so I'm not sure what your comment was referring to.

posted January 02, 2014 03:53 AM            

Actually I hate to burst your bubble, but I wouldn't say Australia is more exciting than any other place (once you get used to it). I've lived in Melbourne, Brisbane, Sydney (never in the outback LOL.. I'm not that adventurous).

As a tourist coming here - I think you'd love it!!! Specially in summer time.. specially in Melbourne lol (Maybe I'm biased but I just love Melbourne.. It has a good vibe. It's the most 'out there' city in Australia. Sydney is actually more conservative than Melbourne o_O.
Melbourne has a romantic vibe as well. You always see horse carriages riding past in the city, and some of them are really pretty.

I actually live at the beach, like a 5 min walk from the main beach area.. so I'm at the beach daily! I was at the beach just earlier walking my dog

You should totally come! You'd have fun!!

posted January 02, 2014 03:56 AM            

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Watch this comedian.. His name is Danny Bhoy.
He's hilarious and has a lot of Aussie-related jokes..
His jokes are *so* accurate .. and his accent is perfect.
This one kind of relates to what I was saying lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQKj6gkoJyE

posted January 02, 2014 04:05 AM            

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Pixie -

I don't know anything about this incident - but if girls "beat" other girls.. that means it was unwanted.. so I'm not sure what your comment was referring to.

You said that you doubt they would be proud about the feces thing... Well if it was unwanted - then it is physical abuse/battery - so of course the victims wouldn't be proud.
The attackers were bullies.. and bullies are often proud of their crappy behaviour until they get caught and punished.

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They were beaten but they willingly went and remained through it. It's my understanding that they were never prevented from leaving while it was going on and had happened the previous year at least (hazing that puts people in the hospital is fairly common for school, colleges, and military, and a lot of it is willingly endured to get into a club of some kind). And that relates to all the other acts of hazing such as sucking off the homeless in a park in order to get in with the popular crowd, sorority, or whatever it was.

posted January 02, 2014 09:27 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
No...... But I have observed women I know being approached and saw the way they reacted to the guys even if the guys in question were polite.

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So you conclude that all women are fundamentally b*tchy? That seems to be your point here. WHY keep chasing women if you have that belief?

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I have also approached women myself and I'm always polite and they usually act like buttholes.

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Realize it takes more than politeness. Serial killers are often polite.

You have a strongly negative vibe online when you talk about women, AG. I'd be outright amazed if it wasn't detectable in person. Deep bitterness is rather obvious and signals danger.

In my experience, when men approach women in an easy-going, friendly way, women respond in kind.

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
On the flip side I have seen the good looking guys get away with murder... They can grope and talk vulgar to women they barely know and they are perceived as charming and confident...

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