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posted March 04, 2009 08:08 AM         

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My Eros is in Cancer in 8th house, my Lust is in Sagittarius in 1st house conjunct Mars, ASC, NN.

But that wasn`t the subject, was it?

Well, I canīt say much about Leo men, as I never met too many. Somehow our paths don`t cross.

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posted March 04, 2009 08:10 AM         

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DD

I see you have delved deep into the Draco stuff again judging by the amount of posts in Astro 2.

How's things in your world cherub?

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posted March 04, 2009 08:12 AM         

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Yeah, I understand that. I responded to an ex that way too. Not so much the rage, but Aries Merc lets rip without thinking and, I'm pretty blunt anyway, but wow - this particular day - whoa - the strength of the words - and no swearing - just how brutal - I was really frustrated. He kept stalking me and he knocked on the door - this was after we had broken up - and demanded to know where I had been and why I was coming home late. I was totally frustrated. He had either been following me without success or had waited outside my home until I got back. I was so direct with him that day - I can't even tell you - it must have hurt him really badly. I usually try to account for the other person's feelings, but this time - no chance. This was a Leo Sun person - the Kevin Costner look-a-like that I've mentioned to sunshine lion before.

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posted March 04, 2009 08:14 AM         

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Hey DD.

Lust in 1st - but you know, I really wouldn't consider you to be "lustful" - well, not obviously anyway.

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posted March 04, 2009 08:15 AM         

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Totally feel for you there & I would have reacted in the very same way. For me I get like that when I am so frustrated with the other person who just doesn't get 'it' no matter how many times you explain things to them. I always felt like the X never heard a word I said or thought I was lying somehow.

NUTS

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posted March 04, 2009 08:18 AM         

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spunky

Exactly the same. And what's worse is when the emotional blackmail kicks in. The manipulation of how they're going to hurt themselves if you don't give in to their will. Yada, yada, yada. It comes to the point where, well, for me, that I genuinely didn't care. And he heard about that too. Thinking back - how cutting that must have been for him. But I just wanted him to go away and leave me alone.

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posted March 04, 2009 08:22 AM         

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Spunky,

yes, I`m fascinated by Kaali and the DNA / family stuff, not necessarily by the theory behind it, but I can accept that it`s important for others.

PA,

well, no, not lustful in the obvious sense. But on the other hand Neptune may water it down and "spiritualise" my lust.
Also I am actually very lust driven; I can`t resist temptations like chocolate, using time for mySELF, sitting at the computer, Because I really want to, even though I really don`t have time for this.

I think that`s "lust-orientation", too.

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posted March 04, 2009 08:22 AM         

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......... and then they go and get friends involved. Passing messages on. NOOOOOOOOOO!!! Stop! Because it makes you distrust the other people too.

Messy, messy, messy.

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posted March 04, 2009 08:25 AM         

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DD

I guess I just think of lust as being associated purely with sexual appetite rather than any other form of indulgence.

I don't think I'm very lusty either. I'm a shocking romantic. Terrible. There's no real room for lust with that mindset. Sex is part of the romantic parcel. I'm hopeless.

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posted March 04, 2009 08:27 AM         

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when the emotional blackmail kicks in. The manipulation of how they're going to hurt themselves if you don't give in to their will. Yada, yada, yada

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Are we living the same life here? Mine tried to gas himself in my car because: A) It would be my fault & B) He was doing it in my car to make sure I would never drive it again.

I was too far away to stop him so I rang his brother who lived around the corner lol. That certainly made me wake up to myself & his behavior.

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posted March 04, 2009 08:27 AM         

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PA,

I see "lust" in both aspects, the indulgence thing as well as the sexual appetite thing.

Besides I am a very repressed person in that regard, but that doesn`t mean it`s not there. I mean there is a good reason I tend to repress myself.

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posted March 04, 2009 08:29 AM         

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DD

Yeah, I'm repressed too. There's a good reason for that as well. It's called marriage.

Oh, I wasn't joking.

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posted March 04, 2009 08:31 AM         

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spunky

That is so bad. The vengeful self-harmer. Lovely. What a sweetheart. Not because he couldn't live without you either. But because he didn't want you to be able to live with yourself.

Do you count your blessings that you are no longer living with that. S***! That's awful.

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posted March 04, 2009 08:33 AM         

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DD

I think sexual appetite and lust are different things. Sexual appetite being what you need in terms of sexual fulfilment. And lust being the pursuit of sexual gratification without any connection to the person - just a physical outlet.

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posted March 04, 2009 08:38 AM         

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Thanks for that

I don't hurt anymore. I'm free now. Not just physically but emotionally too. It's been a long & very hard road to walk & I gave up so many times, but I got here, thanks be to God.

You honestly believe it's normal when you are raised in that environment & it takes a long time to understand other human beings. It has all been worth it in the end...I am a better person for it all. Stronger & wiser.

Passing great tests brings great rewards & I believe I shall continue to reap truck loads of blessings from now on.

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posted March 04, 2009 08:41 AM         

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That's beautiful spunky. That you know that you deserve, not even better things, but great things - I think that's most of the battle won. Especially when you've come from a place that totally invalidated your existence or worth and you've brought yourself - with a great fight, many of them - to raise yourself to that awareness.

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posted March 04, 2009 08:44 AM         

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You have had your share of this crap too I know & look at how beautiful you are

We go through it to become diamonds.

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posted March 04, 2009 08:47 AM         

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Aw spunky

I've been thinking about that thing you said about my problem - receiving - the other day. It keeps replaying in my thoughts - like this broken down record. Yeah, I think that that was very accurate on your part. I'm going to change that too. So, thank you for that. You told me something I needed to hear and it means a lot.

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posted March 04, 2009 08:49 AM         

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My lessons now?

To take off my warriors amour & allow myself to become vulnerable again & that is more terrifying than going to war.

I'm softening....I can feel it happening day by day.

The taming of the spunky horse.

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posted March 04, 2009 08:50 AM         

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Spunky & PA

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posted March 04, 2009 08:52 AM         

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I can relate to that. Actually, I had this conversation today with someone. She told me she admires my self-confidence and I said to her I wish I was more vulnerable - as in - I really admire people who wear their heart on their sleeve.

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posted March 04, 2009 08:54 AM         

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That softening that you're feeling is the fear washing away and the desire for love taking it's place, I think.

EDIT: The opening to love more than the desire.

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posted March 04, 2009 08:55 AM         

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you are most welcome.

It is something that I had to go through & is still a work in progress. For me it was just biting my tongue & holding back the dismal of someone's appreciation & saying a thank you instead.

It's all about allowing others to love & appreciate us. As far as life lessons go this one is pretty nice.

You will get there because you do everything you set your mind too with all your heart.

I have faith in you to accomplish it.

I'm glad that I was able to touch your heart with that message. You were obviously ready to receive it.

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posted March 04, 2009 08:58 AM         

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Unfortunately, this guy did a lot of damage.

Really made me distrust myself and my judgement.

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posted March 04, 2009 08:59 AM         

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EDIT: The link I tried didn't work.

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