posted May 23, 2006 11:32 PM            

Here are definitions/synonyms for “lax”: careless, slack, slipshod, sloppy, lenient, negligent, loose, deficient in firmness, not stringent, not rigid.

CardinalGal is NONE OF THE ABOVE. I was mollified to see that LLL had the grace to apologize to CG, but I still think Water Nymph deserves a less pointed and prickly "olive branch". ("you need to stop and think or rephrase.")

And I've had enough of "I am right, you are wrong" to last me all week.

posted May 24, 2006 04:26 AM              

Also, your supporting of a million plus radiation cancer deaths of Hiroshiman and Nagasakian Civilians is incorrect.
What did those civilians do to deserve that?

Anyway, you disbelieve in mind control but I think I have taken up a huge mind space of yours for several days. You have been mentioning my name in several posts. Just one comment has had this affect on you.
Is Lawnmower Man inside your head ?

I promised to prove to you that Mind Control is possible. I have succeeded whether you agree or disagree, the evidence is there for all those who know their psychology.

Cheers to you

Edit: Let me also clarify to you once and for all Pidaua, I have absolutely nothing against you personally and still pray that you choose the right path. In any case, I hope you find the best happiness in your chosen path. I have nothing more to discuss with you and forgive you for all the negativity you have ascribed to me in various forums.

posted May 24, 2006 06:42 AM              

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I'm afraid my Merc in Scorp Tongue Like A Two-Edged Sword might have emerged

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I've lived long enough to know that it doesn't really matter what other people think of you. And I've also lived long enough to know that I don't know everything! I set a lot of store by that old 'one man's meat is another man's poison' axiom. To each their own, and so if people feel my morals are 'lax' that's fine. I don't mind because I know they're right for me. I wasn't trying to impose them on anyone else, I was simply sharing them for discussion.

posted May 24, 2006 06:56 AM              

Venus indicates the soul's value system and how senses perceive. Venus in Scorpio lays more emphasis on emotionally deep experiences. This can range from touching movies and operas to sex with someone cherished. Venus in Pisces has a trascendental quality and dissolves boundaries in the value system. Hence some of the natives may indulge in what society calls sluttiness but if you take away the essence of time, all humans can be labelled slu_s or male whor_s.

Let me explain. Every time we reincarnate, we have a physically different spouse, even if the soul be the same. 10,000 lives means atleast 10,000 different physcial partners.

When the timeline is removed, it is as if the same soul has had 10,000 different partners. Why should the term sl_t not be used? After all, is there proof that the so called sl_t with 100 partners this life was not a monk or nun for 100 lifelines ?

All placements in all charts have negative and psoitive qualities AND one persons negative is anothers positive. The fun is in applying the strengths of our nativity in multifarious ways to enhance the wealth of our experiences.

posted May 24, 2006 07:30 AM              

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The fun is in applying the strengths of our nativity in multifarious ways to enhance the wealth of our experiences.

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Amen to that!

Kamilla you lovely lady you! How sweet of you to say such lovely things! Thank you so much

I'm incredibly touched... which come to think of it is possibly what seems to have earned me the reputation of being the sl*t of the Zodiac in the first place!

posted May 24, 2006 09:32 AM              

LOL!!!

posted May 24, 2006 10:32 AM            

for the record

"CardnalGal, I see your Venus is in Scorpio. This is a lustful sign for Venus and at a disadvantage. Maybe thats why your views are more lax than mine.(Taures) Sex is serious business in my book too closely connected to my heart and my self worth for casual sex or sex with just friends

'This is a lustful sign for Venus and at a disadvantage"
astrologically this is a true statement

"Maybe thats why your views are more lax than mine"
here is where the big misunderstanding is
I did not use the word Morals I did use the word Views

To use one of Zala's definitions
lax as in not rigid.

Now lets think about this, we have 2 Venus signs in opposition therefore their VIEWS should be one to the right and one to the left. I think we can safely say that,
that is true.

As a Venus (from a personal standpoint and not astrological) in Taurus I do wonder what it would be or feel like to be able to disassociate the emotional part of me from the physical part and just enjoy the moment for what it is and not confuse the two.

Here is where I used the word lax as in not rigid

"Sex is serious business in my book too closely connected to my heart and my self worth for casual sex or sex with just friends"

We are talking about (sexual) views and not morals.
That would be a whole different planet.

Take it in the spirit it was meant
this is an astrology forum.

posted May 24, 2006 10:37 AM              

And I fail to see how things that were said in other threads are relevant here.

posted May 24, 2006 11:07 AM            

"Now lets think about this, we have 2 Venus signs in opposition therefore their VIEWS should be one to the right and one to the left. I think we can safely say that,
that is true."

Thats not entirely the purpose of opposites though is it. You will notice that astrological opposites share common traits, yet their expression is slightly different. When the two manage to blend their unqiue perspectives together, a more complete whole is formed. Here is a quote from cafeastrology about the interaction of a Venus Taurus and Venus Scorpio:-

"How You (Venus in Taurus) Relate to a Partner with Venus in Scorpio: Opposites attract? Very often they do. The interesting thing about opposite astrological signs is that they do share a common theme, helping them to see eye-to-eye from time to time, at least. Both of you are stubborn individuals, rather fixed in your habits and tastes, and essentially intense and loyal in love. Neither of you lets go of partnerships—or each other—easily. Your partner tends to be more intense about his or her attachments than you are, and your overall peacefulness should go a long way to calm the sometimes tumultuous waters of your partner's emotions and needs. Each of you is attracted to the other's strong personality and willingness to commit. Your partner senses in you the ability to "go the distance", and mutual respect is likely the result. This is a sexually intense and magnetic partnership. Who will run the show? Ideally, both of you will, in different ways, but power is important to both of you, and your strong personalities may clash at times. One of the most common differences between Taurus and Scorpio lies in how you approach love relationships. You may find your partner overly complex, while your partner might consider your needs too simple! Your desire is for peace and stability, while your partner thrives on boat-rocking from time to time. Your partner tends to feel threatened when a relationship becomes too predictable, but predictability is your goal! This basic clash is inevitable, and finding a common ground will be essential. This partnership has an exceptional chance of lasting."
http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/venustauruscompatibility.html

posted May 24, 2006 11:14 AM              

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They share the same seed, yet just choose to recieve the light of the Sun on different branches.

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posted May 24, 2006 11:31 AM            

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give me more Love, or more disdain;
the torrid, or the frozen zone
bring equal ease unto my paine:
the temperate affords me none;
either extreme, of love or hate,
is sweeter than a calme estate
- thomas carew " mediocrity in love rejected"

posted May 24, 2006 11:37 AM            

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AG, You should apologise to Pid

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posted May 24, 2006 11:39 AM            

You're opinion means so much to me... please, please be my friend. You are just such an intellectual human being and to not have your approval would cause me considerable pain.... LOL... riiiight....

AG- I'm done with the argument concerning breaking astrology tenents. You can believe what you want and I would expect you to rationalize until the world ends because that is how you are - we are both tenacious people. Should you bring it up in another thread, I will post right back to you and we can re-play this entire exchange again.

IQ,

I have NEVER justified genocide of American Indians. I have never justiied the massacres from Cortex but I am a realist. When a group of people has the technology and know-how to travel across an ocean to a foreign land, it never bodes well for the Native Inhabitants. I don't feel it is right but we can't change what happened.

My own tribe - the Apache (specifically Chiricahua and Mescalero) set out to decimate other tribes and absorb the women and children. This was a major warfare tactic also used by our enemy tribe, the Comanche. For those that have known me all the years I have been on here absolutely know how I feel about the forced relocations of the tribes, the devastation of disease and our own destruction of our tribes in our current day and time.

I am not sure how many reservations you visit, but I don't know what is worse - seeing my own people die of alcoholism and obesity causing diseases or knowing that the US government put them there. BUT, there is always hope and American Indian tribes are moving forward with education, technology and public health.

You act as though I don't care about what happened with the Japanese - but your wrong. I feel sympathy for the civilians that were killed for just "being there" because their government waged a war against the US. War is ugly, but at times necessary - WE (you and I) will always disagree about that and that is okay - people should disagree at times or we will never learn.

I am sure this long post is absolutely KILLING Leyla.. but I am going to continue IQ.

Words have meaning and sometimes they can be more offensive that at other times. Question my spirituality, politics, astrological gifts..etc... and I will either debate or not - depending on how I feel at the time. Accusing me of justifying the deaths of my own people is one of those things in my culture that goes deeper than one may know. WE call those people traitors and my tribe punished by one of most brutal deaths imaginable. The second most brutal is if you are accused of being a witch. In any case, I debated on what I would say - wanting you to know that although we have had our arguments, that was one of the worst things you could say to someone of my ancestory. We take it very literal and reading those words made me think of the deaths of those that my grandmother speaks of and the stories carried down from her grandmother...so on....

We don't have to like each other- but let's try and be respectful of each other's cultural differences before we make blatent accusations.

And since this is a topic about men / women / sex... we should keep our dirty GU laundry in GU

posted May 24, 2006 12:07 PM            

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You can believe what you want and I would expect you to rationalize until the world ends because that is how you are

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It's not rationalizing, Pid. Rationalizing would be something like your assessment that LLL would never use a person's chart against them when we've seen this twice in this thread alone. There was the Venus in Scorpio thing, and then there was her talking down to WaterNymph using WN's Aries placements as her excuse for doing so. You didn't say a thing in either situation, so it would appear that you're ok with your friends using astrology against people, but not IQ.

posted May 24, 2006 12:21 PM              

I feel very Yoda tonight so I will reply in Yoddish...

Write very well you can.
Think very well you can.
Your head you use more of.

My heart I use write when I.
Communication gap hence there is.
Hard Feelings There are no.