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Topic: everything you always wanted to know about men
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lioneye68
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posted May 22, 2006 03:43 PM
 
Cardinal gal, your views are certainly not wrong or even all that "different". They just embody a philosophy only a wise, self assured, sexually mature woman can embrace properly, without causing harm to her spirit. They don't fit a young, sexually dormant but budding, emotionally naive girl very well.Girls who are used repeatedly for one night stands become the most bitter women of all.
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cappyme
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posted May 22, 2006 03:59 PM
Wow Lioneye I gotta say, thats great advice for a teen like me. There's peer pressure, which constantly pressurizes us to do more sexual stuff with the opposite sex just to be more "cooler" or more "popular" I suppose. Thats why my sister made me promise that I wouldn't date till I'm 18 cause then I'll be a bit more mature.But some people say that losing your virginity to not a so special guy is better since the barrier would be gone and you can enjoy sex properly with all your other mates when you grow old or summat. Well to each their own I guess. Anyways I don't even have to think about sex, since its "frowned upon" in our religion to have sex until marriage, well yeah, our religion is pretty conservative. ------------------
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WaterNymph
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posted May 22, 2006 04:18 PM
“They don't fit a young, sexually dormant but budding, emotionally naive girl very well.”Was that a dig at me? Cause from your last post…just making sure 
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lalalinda
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posted May 22, 2006 04:50 PM
Oh Water Nymph you're on the defensive, no Sweetie that wasn't meant for you.
Lioneye has a beautiful young daughter who is or soon will be addressing these issues.That aside, I'm sorry for putting you on the defensive, but you were getting a little fresh. I do understand your Mars/Venus/Aries and I even like its energy but sweetie you need to stop and think or rephrase. Are we cool?  ------------------
Courage is fear that's said its prayers
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AcousticGod
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posted May 22, 2006 04:57 PM
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you need to stop and think or rephrase
I think WaterNymph has made herself clear every time she's written in this thread. I think it's you who's had trouble unintentionally instigating stuff. IP: Logged |
lalalinda
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posted May 22, 2006 05:15 PM
AG
how negative do you want to see this thread get?
why can't you just leave it alone and
let me extend the olive branch.------------------
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Cardinalgal
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posted May 22, 2006 05:15 PM
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They just embody a philosophy only a wise, self assured, sexually mature woman can embrace properly, without causing harm to her spirit.
Thanks for the compliment Lioneye!  Oh, if only I were wise!  Yes I think it probably is different for young girls as they're finding their way with what they feel/think/desire in a man and a relationship. Speaking personally, I've always held the same views as I do now about sex and relationships. I don't know how I came to those views but they just seemed natural to me. Time has simply served to make me less impatient and to see where things go and let them unfold as they will. It's also taught me not to force the direction or mourn relationships when they pass but rather to celebrate the fact that they happened at all. At the start of the thread I was under the impression that we were talking about mature women in adult relationships but maybe I was wrong. I'm very glad that younger women may have benefited from this discussion too.  Sadly age doesn't necessarily bring maturity (if only it were that simple) but I've found experience and the opportunity to share views can help - good luck with your relationships Cappyme and I wish you lots of love and happiness  IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
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posted May 22, 2006 10:53 PM
Surrey or Kent, CG? I can't remember.IP: Logged |
Cardinalgal
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posted May 23, 2006 05:42 AM
Kent AG and how did you remember that?! IP: Logged |
Swerve
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posted May 23, 2006 08:48 AM
After reading a few of the posts (including the strangely entertaining ***** -fest - taking no sides at all btw) I wonder if those of us from the UK are completely unaware of the groups of ****** -up girls that walk about towns and cities shagging anything that moves, and ******* and puking on the floors (and I'm sure there are equivalents elsewhere of course).They aren't dainty, they don't think love and sex are a mighty union of souls, and yes they just want to shag and nothing else. What for all the lovely theories on a womans love then? I wonder sometimes I really do.... Does anyone need reminding that prostitution is the oldest occupation in the world? Or that many lap dancers and strippers show no remorse and quite handily perform "extras" (and I am NOT saying they should be guilty, I'm no-one to judge, I actually have a couple of dancer friends and they are lovely girls). Its more a case of the arguments put fowards that women are so lovely and always have such good intentions - what a load of rubbish - and even more so when used as an argument against men (especially by those who wish to "teach" everyone else just where they are going wrong - the height of arrogance!It would be interesting to see how such wisdom has been applied in their own affairs). Lets have REAL honesty. Its a human issue and values are always subjective and just an opinion, democracy is the recognition of that in BOTH the US and the UK. But what we have now is a generation of women that are copying the very worst kind of men. I don't think a guy sleeping around is any better than a woman, I just am a guy and think more about a woman who does and how I don't want to marry her (although again I would be flexible on this if I really loved her). The attention games people play and the over-used power games are deliberate and smack of selfishness, lack of compassion and no responsibility not only to others but to the self. Everything else here is pointless moralising unless there is a healthy foundation of self-respect within any individual and in the age of "style over substance" even the confidence we see in todays youth is a flimsy illusion that has been created and supported by a commercial world and very easily-influenced people. A magazine article or a television program are more powerful today than the greatest philosophers from history. What price morality? Swerve IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
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posted May 23, 2006 01:07 PM
CG,I put your info in my astrology program a long time ago, but when I go to look at it it asks whether it's Surrey or Kent. Even now I'll probably forget soon, and have to ask again. I noticed yesterday that while we don't have proper conjunctions of our Suns and Moons we're pretty close. Your Sun is about 12 degrees away from my (29 degree) Virgo Moon, and your Moon is about 13 degrees away from my Sun. Maybe that's part of why we see eye to eye on so many things. IP: Logged |
Cardinalgal
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posted May 23, 2006 04:07 PM
Yep I think that must be it AG Where's your Venus btw? Have I missed it on this thread? IP: Logged |
pidaua
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From: Back in AZ with Bear the Leo
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 23, 2006 04:39 PM
AG:Just so you know, lalalinda, you may get in trouble with the astrology police on this as Pidaua has informed IQ that interpretting someone's chart in a negative light is a big "no-no." It's fascinating to me that the Moderator of the Free Astrology Course isn't aware of this unwritten and undiscussed rule. You are being petty and immature. If someone states in a string they have a planet in a sign and later in the string someone says "Maybe having Venus in scorp is causing this and that" it's called an interpretation. When someone(uh hum) like you and a few others post someone's birth data, without their consent and then proceed to dissect that chart, point out the negative - then that is where the line is drawn. Another example would be if I said "Well AG, life would be better for you if you didn't have suicidal tendancies as indicated in your Pluto square Mars aspect, hell soon you'll be a serial killer" ***** Disclaimer, I have no idea if he has this aspect, I am just making an example. I wanted to make sure things were clarified since what you did was completely distort what I had said with the intent of making me look like I am policing others and keeping them from working out astrological principles. Damn, each time I start to think highly of you, you do something like this - absolutely malicious AG. IP: Logged |
Cardinalgal
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posted May 23, 2006 06:24 PM
Hi Pidaua I think what AG was getting at was that my views were called 'lax' as a result of my Venus placement - I personally felt that was a little unfair and a somewhat negative interpretation, exactly the kind of thing I would think people were against here. Obviously everyone is entitled to their opinion, but there are perhaps ways that appear less 'judgemental' or impolite to offer those opinions. Whether someone has given their consent for their birth data to be discussed/interpreted or not, I still feel it's not for others to decide whether they're right or wrong based on those placements - we don't know what it's like to live under those influences unless we have them ourselves and therefore, cannot judge. And before anyone leaps to the conclusion I'm accusing LLLinda of judging me, I'm not. Her use of the term 'lax' was, I'm sure, merely used to illustrate the difference in our approaches to sex.
I now understand the use of the term 'disadvantage' when related to Venus in Scorpio as Zala and LLLinda were kind enough to explain that to me. I'm still learning about astrology and lots of things are very new to me. I apologise for my ignorance and have apologised to LLLinda for misinterpreting part of her remark about my Venus placement. All friends again I hope. IP: Logged |
Cardinalgal
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posted May 23, 2006 06:30 PM
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CG~I think what lalalinda might have meant about your Venus being “at a disadvantage” is merely that it’s in its detriment. Big Deal. 1/12th of the population of the world probably has Venus in Scorpio. You’ve got a lot of “lax” company Our Libra Suns are in their Fall – so what?? Zala
Completely forgot my manners and forgot to thank you for enlightening me re this Zala! So thanks hon
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pidaua
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From: Back in AZ with Bear the Leo
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posted May 23, 2006 06:41 PM
I understand CG, but AG was making a reference to me making a statement (as well as others) about posting birth data and dissecting a chart without permission. He was equating my pointing out a glaring violation to someone making a negative statement about a planetary placement. You are absolutely entitled to voice an opinion about someone's interpretation and application of a planet when it affects you. It is similar to when someone makes a statement about Mars in Pisces being wishy washy and non-confrontational and then applies it to me. I have that placement but I would hardly say I was wishy washy or non-confrontational LOL.... Every now and again lines of communication get crossed - it's when they are purposely corrupted to start problems that it becomes an issue
To some people it is all or nothing. Dad says you can't take the car out after 1am- so the kid fights "well then, if you need a ride to the hospital at 2am for an emergency I guess I can't take you".
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AcousticGod
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posted May 23, 2006 07:33 PM
CG,My Venus is in Sag. Pid, I am being neither petty nor immature. I'm pointing out a brazen breaking of your rule by the leader of the Free Astrology Course. Lalalinda said very directly, "This is a lustful sign for Venus and at a disadvantage." If that's not exactly what your rule is about then I don't know what is. She used someone's chart as an insult. She's an Aries, so she can't help it. quote:
When someone(uh hum) like you and a few others post someone's birth data, without their consent and then proceed to dissect that chart, point out the negative - then that is where the line is drawn.
I neither posted Jwhop's chart, nor did I publicly dissect it, and even when given permission I went pretty light on him. quote:
I wanted to make sure things were clarified since what you did was completely distort what I had said with the intent of making me look like I am policing others and keeping them from working out astrological principles.
I didn't distort. You want people to be nice when interpretting other people's charts. Right? I am not alone in thinking that Lalalinda was not following that principle. quote:
Damn, each time I start to think highly of you, you do something like this - absolutely malicious AG.
It's not malicious. I called it as I saw it. After Lala said what she did you posted before I did, which means that you had the opportunity do some more policing, but chose not to. I didn't see you stand up for your rule, which makes it appear that you are selective in who you apply your rules to. IP: Logged |
pidaua
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From: Back in AZ with Bear the Leo
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posted May 23, 2006 07:38 PM
The definition of "disavantage" was explained by LLL and Zala. It is in it's detriment (FACT) there are negative connotations with having Venus in Scorpio (FACT) there are negatives to every planetary positions. You are still wrong and you did distort my words at an attempt to bring about negative feelings towards LLL and you used me to try to do it.
Here's another example AG- when something is done with mal-intent towards a person that one already dislikes. Fact, when the person used my Pluto conjunct Ascendant to yell out on a board that I must be obsessive compulsive HE also had something against me and following it up with calling me an Angry b1tch.
Jwhops chart was dissected and HE even stated that he had not given consent and thought it was wrong, juniperb and other long time posters / moderators felt the same way. YOU BROKE a RULE - it is different than someone posting their planetary position Again.. since you need help in this area. If I posted "I have Pluto conjunct Ascendant, what does that mean for me?" And someone said "Well, that may be why you are so intense Pid and you might find some major struggles with authority figures, people may hate you right off". Is it negative? Yep. Was it done in a malicious manner. Nope, not unless the person also waited until I posted anything to crawl out from under their rock and post something negative towards me. LLL is not someone that lurks for her chance to use someone's planetary positions against them. She is not someone to post birth data and then tear the person apart. If she wanted to she could have said "well CG you have Venus in Scorp, Good Luck honey, because you are doomed to be a promiscious s1ut bag that should invest in a lifetime supply of antibiotics for the STD's you'll be getting in your lifetime" THAT would have been a negative attempt to make someone look like crap for having an aspect AND using it against them. But like that child, with you it is all or nothing. Adults use discernment and can tell when a blatent attack is an attack.
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pidaua
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posted May 23, 2006 07:56 PM
IQ Said:"Why was I rude to Pid? For weeks I was rattled by her because she justified the genocide of Native Americans and the use of nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. And yet she has Native American ancestry. My studies in spirituality taught me about genetic talents across nations and that Native Americans have one of the precious DNA codes in them to awaken global peace consciousness and healing. Something that is unlocked using Turquoise colour in meditation, for those who are interested.
My seeming conflict with her mode of writing and thinking is primarily my own inability to rationalize her thought process considering her background.
She is entitled to use any harshness against me or anybody, it is free will. But any hatred/judegmentalism in her posts against me is not her fault. To her her karma, to me mine."
You are a sick person IQ.. I have NEVER justified the genocide of American Indians. YOU are talking about MY ancestors. I said that WAR between the tribes happens. One tribe decimates another and it happens - that is human nature.
For you to put words in my mouth is horrifying. You reduced every argument I had concerning tribal warfare into me justifying the death of a peoples. What kind of a monster are you? I do justify what happened in Japan and fair warfare after being attacked. You came against me on threads that had nothing to do with GU at all. You can hide behind your happy horsecrap IQ, but you blatently lied about how I feel about my American Indian Ancestory. I can assure you IQ that my Karma is intact. My aura is clean and your judgement of me while sitting upon your self-righteous soapbox means nothing. BUT YOUR LIE meant everything. IP: Logged |
BerrySweet
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posted May 23, 2006 10:06 PM
There was one guy I dated over a year before I slept with him, and he dumped me right after. I remember being really shocked, because I had made him wait so long just to be sure.Another guy I dated, I slept with after only the third day. We had that special chemistry. It became a long-term relationship, it got so serious we almost got married. It depends on what the guys intentions are from the start. Either he's a user, or he's not. IP: Logged |
LeylaLeFay
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posted May 23, 2006 10:09 PM
pidaua- You are a nut, and I for one am tired of seeing your long screaming rants. Berry- quote:
It depends on what the guys intentions are from the start.
Either he's a user, or he's not.
I agree. If he plans on dumping you after sex, he will. No matter how long you make him wait.
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AcousticGod
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posted May 23, 2006 10:27 PM
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You are still wrong and you did distort my words at an attempt to bring about negative feelings towards LLL and you used me to try to do it.
I am absolutely right, Pid. Zala was the one to offer the clarification that it COULD be that she meant CG's Venus was in detriment. LLL didn't offer that interpretation of her own words until after my post. Also, there's a vast difference between being at a lustful disadvantage, and simply saying that one's planet placement is in detriment. Furthermore, in practical terms a planet being in detriment can only be termed to be a "disadvantage" by the broadest stroke of interpretation. Being a Libra with three planets in Libra and one in Taurus she's got a pretty overwhelming Venutian influence. quote:
Fact, when the person used my Pluto conjunct Ascendant to yell out on a board that I must be obsessive compulsive HE also had something against me and following it up with calling me an Angry b1tch.
Yell out? That's a bit dramatic... What does this have to do with our scenario? Are you trying to say that LLL wasn't trying to put someone who disagreed with her in her place... kind of rationalize her opinion away? quote:
Jwhops chart was dissected and HE even stated that he had not given consent and thought it was wrong, juniperb and other long time posters / moderators felt the same way. YOU BROKE a RULE - it is different than someone posting their planetary position
Whoa there Nelly! Juniperb came to your side as the only other person to have an opinion prior to Jwhop weighing in. Don't try to inflate what happened. No other long term posters or Moderators got involved. Secondly, I didn't break a rule. First, I didn't break it because it wasn't me who posted the info for I DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THE INFO! Second, I didn't break the rule, because I didn't interpret anything as bad. Third, and most importantly, I didn't break a rule because the RULE DOESN'T EXIST!! quote:
LLL is not someone that lurks for her chance to use someone's planetary positions against them. She is not someone to post birth data and then tear the person apart.
I never said that she was. This rule you're creating seems to be taking on more and more characteristics. Now an offender has to find a way to lurk, so that they might pounce on someone's chart? If you haven't noticed yet, IQ is very interested in astrology, and his interpretation of Jwhop's chart wasn't completely malicious. quote:
Adults use discernment
I'm afraid you're not one to try to teach these lessons. IP: Logged |
LeylaLeFay
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posted May 23, 2006 10:56 PM
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Adults use discernment
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I'm afraid you're not one to try to teach these lessons.
LOL! IP: Logged |
mysticaldream
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posted May 23, 2006 10:58 PM
Well, I don't know most people on here very well and I am sure that LaLinda is a wonderful person but when I read:CardnalGal, I see your Venus is in Scorpio. This is a lustful sign for Venus and at a disadvantage. Maybe thats why your views are more lax than mine.(Taures) Sex is serious business in my book too closely connected to my heart and my self worth for casual sex or sex with just friends. When I read that quote, I was a little offended. My Venus is in Scorpio, as well, and it DID seem like she was stereotyping. Attitudes about sex are most likely influenced by attitudes in the home, culture, etc., as much as they are by Venus placements. Someone from a very conservative, religious culture will have different attitudes and lifestyles from someone brought up more progressively.......no matter where Venus is in your chart. So please let's not stereotype Venus in Scorpios as the Sl*ts of the zodiac......... IP: Logged |
mars446
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posted May 23, 2006 11:26 PM
Whoa...I don't know you guys very well...but please, calm down. Whoever offended the other, they appologized. No need to inflate it more than it needs to be. I don't know what happened b/w pidaua and Iq, so I'm not even going there.Calm down, pretend that this never happened...sometimes people phrase things in a wrong way while they have good intentions (btw...I didn't even know there were rules on this forum...but everyday I learn, and I'm sure everyone learns too). Maybe a person was in a bad mood, so they took it out in the forum...but then again, they appologized...so let it go. I hope no one attacks me for attempting to make peace... IP: Logged | |
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