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Author Topic:   Meissieri
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posted May 23, 2014 06:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
okay, what to address first. (I may wonder off topic and aimlessly, just as a warning )

****IF NAMES COME UP - IT'S FOR EXAMPLE PURPOSES ONLY****

Seeking out conflict:
I suppose on some level that is true, or was true. Maybe more true in the past than now. I'm not really sure because it must be on a level that I'm not fully aware of. People that I did seek it out with are banned. Kero - that was mostly who I would say that I actively sought it out. It was kind of a game to me. Summerlite only for a brief period. Then I tried to ignore her, especially that second time around I ignored her a lot but she kept coming into threads. I'm not here to talk about them, but my seeking out fights. I'm sure it's happened in other instances, but on levels that maybe I need to get in touch with.
I'll also say this and I do understand the nature of it. I've built this reputation for myself. I get it. But what I STILL don't think is fair despite that, is that the burden is ALWAYS put on ME (US) to ignore. I am not taking away my responsibility there and in fact, I'll say it's lopsided, the majority onto me to ignore as I'm more likely to respond but I NEVER see anyone else being told these things other than Ami saying it generally to everyone.
All in all, I get the point and don't disagree. Parts of it, yes, or think that it's a little twisted here and there, but I do agree overall.

Being too emotional:
Astrologically, I have planets in water houses, I have a Cancer MC which I think plays a huge role for both of us, but the only planet in an actual water sign is Uranus. (Trines my moon) It's not as if I don't get emotional, as in am incapable but as much as Gem moons are complained about detaching and difficult to get close to, etc, I sure do get pinned a lot for being emotional. (I just read a Gem moon thread two days ago from 2012)
I think what people are seeing is Leo passion, fire, intensity, pride and it's mistook for emotion. Just my theory on that. BG can get more emotional than me but also is able to let go of things a LOT faster. I can hang on to things forever! In fact, there is a user here that I will NEVER respond to again because of some things that they've said to me. We've never "fought" directly. Never had too many issues at all really. No one has a clue, they themselves don't have a clue, but I'll never acknowledge them again. So, you see, I am capable, and that is the "DeepFreeze" side of me.
I guess overall on this one.... if I step back and think about it. I suppose I can see it. I've BEEN emotional or upset here but it's not like what people think. Had I been frustrated in the last couple days? Yeah...
I'm pretty darn fine right at the moment. That's why (I'm not trying to fight!!!) I told Muddy, "Anything else?" I'm done, I don't care anymore. Say what you gotta say, get your last insults in and lets be done with this. I'm not trying to fight, so I hope she can just look at that for what it says and pass by. If she reads this. That doesn't seem emotional to me. (???) I suppose I could have ignored it but I guess I just don't want it to look like, "oh no, you got me. I'm stumped". I'm not going on for days or weeks like this because of some little remark about caps".
Anyway, I get it.
If I get upset, things like this happen.

BG/Myself:
That's a toughie and I don't want to get into too much detail. I understand the feeling "teamed up on" and things being "unequal".
I don't know..... I don't know how to explain that one. I know that's why people dig at "us" and how where one is the other is. She doesn't ask me to do it, would be fine without it... I just do it. She doesn't mind it at all either. It just happens... that's about all that I can say. I don't know how to explain that.
OH!! I got it.
You see, some people will advise, as was done recently,by a member,that it's healthy to be apart sometimes and etc. Well, with us, it's not desired and we NEVER get on each others nerves, like when you're around someone too much. We plan together, trips, finances, our future, even meals. I'll cook breakfast a lot and her dinner. We just tackle LIFE together. It works for us, and wonderfully. So I guess that's that. Though I understand people's viewpoints, I think they take it harsh and get nasty with us way before we get nasty with them. But because we're "two".... we catch hell for it.
We disagree sometimes. Just about a half hour ago, something kind of big actually and she thought I was cold and harsh. But we didn't get heated, and decided that it was a bridge that most likely would never need crossing. So we just said forget it and moved on.
Anyway, I guess I get it.. not that it would change.

No need to apologize for snappiness BTW. lol

I will say this and I'm repeating myself, and fighting a lost cause. (I've been guilty in the past I'm sure as well)
I REALLY, GENUINELY, just don't get how people get so upset and offended if something negative is brought up about their sign. Like, "Really?" I did when was Zander probably... maybe early on as DF. I don't really recall. The ONLY times it's caused much reaction of late is when it's used to personally dig at me, like, "What a typical Leo/Libra". THEN, I'm like, "That's to me personally."... maybe I'm not your typical... or anyone. But if someone says, "Leos blah blah blah... " Ah who cares? I don't. I think things about signs and that's just me. That's how **I** feel about them. Maybe there's some synastry crap that makes it the way it is with given signs. I wish people would learn (as I did) to view it that way. It should be worded differently rather than saying, "This sign is.... " but you know? Just realize that it's an individual saying it, and generally so. I don't know... Sometimes I'm laid back, sometimes not and that's an area where I pretty much am. I don't give a crap if someone or a few dislike Leos, or Gem moons, venus virgos, whatever. Big deal. So they can go find another sign then. I don't care.


I've gotten on individuals cases. Kero I used to dig at for fun honestly. AG too, but unlike Kero I'm a little fond of AG in an odd way and I've said so. I'll leave others out... Kero is gone and I know AG doesn't really give a crap.

Well, I guess I'm done rambling. Sorry for it being so long.

I appreciate the conversation and friendlier discussion about this.

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DeepFreeze
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posted May 23, 2014 11:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I may check back Tuesday. Have a good weekend
May lurk 2.0... I like to learn.

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12muddy
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posted May 24, 2014 02:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That was to respond to your "benefit of the doubt" comment. Being acknowledged, or respected, or etc... by you isn't neccessarily a prize. "Stumped" or not, only you know.

Odd.

The main things that I wanted to say I already said it in those two threads. Other things that I may (or may not) say will just be additions to those comments.

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meissieri
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posted May 24, 2014 03:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow I'll reply to this later. I do want this to be a safe place.

But can we talk about other things as well?

And of course Rie is fine. I was a bit confused why everyone suddenly used my screenname again.

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Doux Rêve
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posted May 24, 2014 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 12muddy:
Doux I hope your health has been getting better

Aw, thank you. It was okay for a while and now it's back to being problematic. :/

Love the cat! Soooo cute. Cats are awesome.
The food pic is nice, too.

quote:
Originally posted by Catalina:
A NOTE FOR DOUX

In New Zealand Manuka honey is used to treat H Pylori if that is at the root of your issues, then maybe you are lucky you can't take antibiots, the very heavy cocktail they bomb H PYlori with has some scary possible aftereffects.

But Manuka honey, a teaspoon twenty minutes before meals has apparently been very successful at altering the atmosphere of the stomach and routing the little buggers out.

You should be able to find more info online ie how long, dose, possible practitioners who know more than I do!!! It is not cheap esp if you use it for pleasure ((who would do a thing like that) but it is cheaper than most meds and good for you in other ways, as honey tends to be...

Just wanted to put that out here in case it is any help.

Taking a break from the board at least for awhile and I know I haven't interacted with too many of you, but all the best to you all.


Oh my God, that's so sweet of you, thank you, Catalina. I will look it up.

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Sorry I kind of "interrupted" the whole thing, lol.

I hope muddy, Faith, Rie (and DF as well) are all okay... and Randall, too. And Catalina.

And any other human and non-human being that ever reads this. =)

xo

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Ellynlvx
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posted May 24, 2014 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And you.

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DeepFreeze
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posted May 25, 2014 02:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dp

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DeepFreeze
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posted May 25, 2014 02:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by meissieri:
wow I'll reply to this later. I do want this to be a safe place.

But can we talk about other things as well?

And of course Rie is fine. I was a bit confused why everyone suddenly used my screenname again.


Whatever you like. If I'm welcome. If I'm going to be a cause of tension I'll just step right on out of here.
I think it'll be fine though... Looks like it.

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DeepFreeze
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posted May 25, 2014 03:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you doux!

I'm doing completely FANTASTIC!!

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meissieri
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posted June 04, 2014 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, our thread is reaching its 1-year anniversary!

There is something I want to say, after some Sweet Peas threads.

Look, I didn't mind people using my threads at the time and no need to edit things or anything, what's done is done. But in the future, I would like people to not just come in here for venting, passing a message and such. I do want you guys to have your safe space for that... but can you please also talk to me? It was a bit disheartening to see so many people post in my threads (this one + SP) only because they had to get their opinion on the way LL was going in. I mean, forgive me for having a huge Leo sun singleton, but it sucks knowing they're not coming to your thread for you - or to chat with you. In SP, okay, I guess if you must. But here, this is kind of "my" thread - my space here. So I also really want to just talk here.

If you guys understand. Gotta assert myself a bit here.

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meissieri
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posted June 04, 2014 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DP. But I wanted to add something anyway:

In Neptune/12th house/Pisces PoF metaphore:

Please don't just visit to file a complaint or deliver a package. While you're there, why not have some tea and cookies with me? I promise you I'm a very good baker and my couch is comfy ^^

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Barbiegirl19
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posted June 04, 2014 04:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Faith
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posted June 04, 2014 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Faith
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posted June 05, 2014 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What happened?

Two pages deleted.

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Randall
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posted June 05, 2014 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't delete anything. Pages can't be deleted--only the entire thread or individual posts. I'm going to assume it was a glitch and that the Mods were not involved and leave it at that, considering the private information that was divulged on here, and the fact that it seems to be for the best, restoring Rie's safe haven and removing negative posts, including my own.

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meissieri
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posted June 05, 2014 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
O___O It's all gone??

I'm confused.

Safe haven or not, these things all had to be said and I actually wanted to reply to a few more things. I can't remember everything posted here. But I see your point, of course.

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DeepFreeze
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posted June 05, 2014 06:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All good.

I sent an email.
Idk, there's good and bad with both having it here for all to see and having it private.
I'm not disappointed with lost pages.
It's a tough subject! That stuff is complicated. I'm not sure that full understanding will ever be reached honestly but we can try I suppose. Enough to move on.

I'm sorry, I really am. That's all that I can offer you at the end of the day.

On another topic, fighting. Well, I make no promises right now but I am thinking that you all might see a different DeepFreeze. I don't want to fight anymore. Its old, it's tiring, it's stupid 80% of the time. I just don't want to do it anymore. Ugh.... I just want some peace.

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posted June 05, 2014 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good to hear, DF.

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12muddy
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posted June 06, 2014 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Finally no more talk about ignoring and not caring

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12muddy
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posted June 06, 2014 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Doux I'm sorry to hear that. I've read that the condition is quite unpredictable. Living with st like that is hard. Lots of hugs.

Agree with the honey. My s.o doesn't have the same condition but he has digestive problems, manuka honey helps a lot.

Haha the cat was our friend's. He moved to a new place and couldn't bring it with him so we adopted him.

Rie I hope you're doing well with your exams.

And Faith, hope you and your family are doing well too.

I've just been back from my in-laws' place. They really know how to put us to work hah. We helped tidying up the garden. My mother in law wanted to leave the trees n bushes growing wild. I like that idea too. But yeah we were concerned that the kids may get bitten by bugs n whatnot.

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On another topic. This is more like my musings of the day.

I never actually understood how damaging bad relationships can be. I used to think simply that well if one detached from it then it'd be fine. Only recently when I have the chance to really observe n really "know" my cousin's stories that I realized things aren't that simple.

I'm at a bit of a loss as to how to support her. What to do with the lingering effects of those bad experiences? Not everyone has a kill-switch so yeah... I guess time will heal. But it feels like waiting for things to happen.

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Ellynlvx
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posted June 07, 2014 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I saw my ex-Husband at my daughter's Graduation last night, and it was just like it always was.

But better.

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DeepFreeze
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posted June 07, 2014 01:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had one ex hung up for about 10 years and another about 6 or so. That I know of.
(Gemini sun, moon, Venus all conjunct my moon and Mars conjunct my Venus. Libra with cap moon and Venus conjunct Venus... That I remember)
Me... 6 months Max. I hate it.... Can't stand it. I will find a way. (Uranus my only water planet and trines moon.. Need for emotional freedom?)
I wonder... Is it the people with more on/off that struggle to help the people who can't let go?

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posted June 07, 2014 02:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually rie...

I'll bounce out of here.
It just occurred to me that my presence might be bothersome to you. (?)
So, I'm sorry.

But I'll leave my post because I know that you don't like edits.

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meissieri
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posted June 07, 2014 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, I kicked butt despite everything.

Lost hope on everything here. Unless I get sympathy for what it was like for me - and my feelings, I don't think that'll change anytime soon. After months of bending over backwards while putting my own needs aside, I think that's not too much to ask.

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meissieri
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posted June 07, 2014 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Depends on what you're talking about.

Hey, where did I say I don't like edits? I just get so curious what it said, and others can't reply to it if someone gets rid of their post right away.

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