posted October 27, 2013 01:12 PM            

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Themes of reflection and revelation run through the lives of August 14 people. They often take leadership roles but almost always as guides or teachers (not necessarily formal instructors, but perhaps teachers through example or the sharing of experience). Usually those born on this day have little or no interest in ruling, dominating or dictating to others.

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Dead-on. I always go, "ME?! Leader?!" whenever I read it on my sun or moon sign, but yes, the teaching, listening and giving advice always happens. Even online or sometimes when I'll be traveling back home, there's someone picking me out to give directions, help with tram connections, needs someone to do this for them in English, etc. Bizarre!

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In holding a mirror up to people (their family, friends, public, associates or employees) they allow others to see themselves as they really are.

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Sometimes such August 14 people use exaggeration and grotesquerie to attract attention or demonstrate their point.

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August 14 people who are not commentators but embodiers of the human condition very much wear their heart on their sleeve. They cannot really hide their faults or their problems.

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Thus such August 14 people not only garner sympathy from those who empathize with them but also admiration from those who look to them for answers. Though this type of August 14 person may be lacking in self-awareness they are nonetheless in touch with the concerns of their age.

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Prominent Chiron, much?

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August 14 people are often drawn to relationships in which their mate becomes a mirror of their own inner self which it is naturally difficult for them to see. This animus or anima figure who is the object of their love is often a projection of their own best and worst traits, and in some cases an extreme personality in which one or two characteristics are dominant.

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... and yet always wondered why it was people with qualities I hated that seem drawn to me. Aries DSC.

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Building an effective team is essential to their continued success, and learning to delegate authority is key to stopping them from shouldering unrealistic burdens alone, which can result in burnout or breakdown.

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Or having Virgo/Capricorn in most of your personals.

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The fall from grace that inevitably follows may result in deep disillusionment; this can impair the relationship permanently, but it can also lead to a more realistic view of their personality.

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Oh boy, my all-time favourite Sun square Pluto having a field day.

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As long as they are honored and respected, they will be generous and kind, even to a fault: they will often refuse to see anything wrong in the behavior of a favored family member, a trait that can make them quite unrealistic. Having a thoroughly spoiled mate or child is their trademark.

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*Sheepish grin*. It's so easy to play me...

Then the whole paragraph of "Path of Considerate Leadership" screams Virgo + Aqua NN.

Lol can you tell I relate to my report. So weird. A while ago, I read it and I was half crying at what was said there. "This is not me, I'm not insensitive, etc." But I realize, I did have these issues when I was a child. I may be following my NN after all.

Of course this ends up being a whole post. >_>

posted October 29, 2013 07:55 AM            

Are you the lenient parent or the strict one? I have a feeling that I’ll be one of those people who go nuts because of their love for their offspring. My husband will be the fair but strict parent, the one who’ll maintain order in the household. Our little ones will heed his words but walk all over me <cry>

LOL I feel a lot better now I know that you didn’t think I was cray cray. Oh well let’s turn the author’s reports into reality. I’d gladly worship you Faith, kaka I’d start a cult, light the altar with incense, perfumed candles and pay tribute to you with fruits and veggies.

I love your dry wit and Rie’s sweet wit, it’s so funny, interesting and entertaining to talk to you and Rie.

Hmm, I often see afflicted moon in a woman’s chart playing out as problems with women who share her blood line. Like me with my mother. One of my friends with her sisters. Another friend with her aunts and cousins...etc...

With moon/mars, I’d imagine that there are women who want to “compete” with you.

Moon/Pluto is the one that can cause other women to be jealous of you.

Rie an Aries friend of mine has venus square mars. As far as I know, she doesn’t hate women, but my god there are so many girls who are terribly jealous of her, to the point of wanting to start fights, spreading vicious rumours...etc... Many of the men she attracts are just bat **** crazy. One sticks her photos all over his motorbike, stalks her and her mother, scans her photos onto his shirts... In front of his house, he raises a flag that says he loves her. Okayyyyyyy..... lol fortunately she’s quite sane and she stays away from them.

Faith, that paper bag expression is the result of one of my conversations with his majesty.

What aspect can lead to this? My mercury is in the 12th house that’s understandable. Oh, his 9th mercury conjunct 10th house Pluto.

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Rie poor you, but your “prophecy” came true so yeah that’s kinda cool lol. J/k. Remember to drink lots of water <3 I hate getting sick.

When will your classes start again? I’m studying hard over here haha nah... I’m not a hard working student, I study just enough.

<3 I’m happy that you and Faith like that picture. It’s so.... “golden” hahaha I love gold and copper hues...

Btw Rie what’s Monday named after? Moon ?

I’m reading your report. Even the name kind fits. “Considerate”... yes you are indeed.

Lol Rie there will always be Capricorns and Leos to love you kaka. Speaking of astrologers, it’s important to remind ourselves that no matter how good they are, they still only see other people filtered through their own eyes.

Yeah what you said is true. An aspect, a placement can manifest in so many different ways, and because they are affected by other aspects, the end results are varied. I know it’s good to remember that every description only describes that aspect/placement alone and it’s nothing to get annoyed about, but I still do. To be fair, western astrology is very very politically correct, compared to Chinese/Oriental astrology. The old books offer interpretations like “The native will follow the life’s path of a prostitute”, “Men should never wed women with this aspect”...etc... Take it with a grain of salt, I guess...

You brought up a very good point, I’ve been thinking the same thing for quite a while. It seems that if we don’t “act” out our placements, we’ll most likely be placed in situations where we’re forced to act, or we’ll meet people who act out the power, like you’ve said.

<Big hug> your sun square Pluto is hard on you.

Speaking of retrogrades... Rie and Faith, how many retrogrades you’ve got ? I’ve just realized that I have retro mercury, Jupiter, mars and NN... Seems like this lifetime my goal is to “build” myself.

I’d like to ask you two about how South node and north node affect your views on life, relationships/marriage. I’m so cappy started a thread about this the other day and I’ve been thinking about it a lot.

My NN is in cap, 1st house, so my SN is in cancer, 7th house. I get haunted by the past (cancer) every once in a while, but I know that I have to move forward (cardinal NN), to build and experience different things, which is why I’m always so eager for a fresh start. But the scary thing is that once in another thread, I said that if my marriage broke down, I’d not remarry again and I’d live happily with the memories. Man, having SN in the marriage house.....Talk about holding onto the past.

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Half truths, hmm. A lot depends on, well, a lot. Haha.

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posted October 31, 2013 09:26 AM            

My husband is now at our house with us and he requires a lot of my attention. When I'm on the computer for a long time (with the back of my laptop facing him so he can't see what I'm looking at) he just stares at me, waiting expectantly for me to get off the machine and pamper him like the lion king he is.

Rie, thanks so much for breaking down that report, I really appreciate it, and 12muddy I love that you appreciate people who love their kids...ME TOO. I have moon square Mars "mommy issues" but I think they are surmountable, I mean for one thing, as I said before, babies are so cute they conquer all inhibitions and change people. And then it just continues on as they get bigger.

posted October 31, 2013 06:10 PM            

Wow your friend has to go through all of that? Geez. That's awful. Good thing she knows to stay away from them. That's all you can do, isn't it?

You really wouldn't marry again? Okay, surprising. Let's just hope it doesn't come down to that!

And Faith, no, go ahead. I wouldn't want to keep you away from the king. He gets what he wants. Go catch up when you feel less pressure! And yeah, sure, I'm always in for sharing some experiences on our chart. This is more of a personal topic, but astro was still the beginning. I like doing a little of both. Keeps things interesting.

posted November 01, 2013 07:35 AM            

Faith, yah I automatically have a certain amount of respect for everyone who cares about their family. Doesn’t matter if they’re the biggest a-holes.

Yeah, babies are the cutest “creatures” ever. Tiny fingers, round eyes, toothless smiles. I love tiny babies, ankle-biters (little children) , especially the cute friendly ones, I can’t resist when they laugh and reach for me...

Rie sweet heart, it kinda scares me a little now that I think he’s watching me lol.

You need to watch it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpwhA-LdOHo

Lol your mom sure is full of fire haha I can understand. She sounds too cute. She wants all of your attention. Awww <swoon>

Yeah I know, not getting married again is pretty extreme... I tend to stay away from very extreme viewpoints, but yeah. A part of me pounds the gravel and says that’s the final verdict. The other parts of me protest and say that it’s silly to turn away from opportunities and limit myself.

I guess it’s partly because with important things like marriage, I kinda give myself one chance and pour all of my effort into it. So if it ends, it means that I don’t have much left to offer the next person.

posted November 09, 2013 07:19 AM            

Faith, stay strong. I know your replies will be good as usual when you find the time to reply.

Actually, I've been struggling as well having started a new course on top of school.

Muddy, again, wow. That's a pretty tough choice to make and be open about, as it seems to go so much against how people tend to feel about relationships. It's great you can do that and feel so comfortable with it, yet still not dismiss any chances for a relationship. Maybe you're just the kind of person who doesn't look for an opportunity, but will take it when it shows up? That's good and I like that you can enjoy your life without having romance as your priority in your life. You balance both nodes well I'd say!

Wow that sounded feminist.

Honestly, I almost forgot but yes, your SN is in Cancer and 7th house. I do get more of that 1st house vibe from you - but still with a soft, cuddly core. Sounds good to me. And yeah I feel ya. Giving all of you to someone you care about takes a lot of you, it's hard to think of doing that for just anyone. Should keep that for people who are worth it.

posted November 15, 2013 05:52 PM            

Geea here tipped me on that I may get a dose of Saturn and Neptune to my Venus through being conjunct that Uranus, and she's right. Especially Saturn the dispositor. It's scary how much I relate to Venus sq Saturn descriptions - got chills down my spine and everything. Never really thought about it, but it's true. They're in a minor aspect that doesn't show in my chart (biseptile) but I think they'd turn into a square by default.

Lol as always you pick up on everything I missed. You're good. I think my jaw's still somewhere on the floor there.

Do you have any of these minor aspects? Ever looked at them? There's next to nothing on them. Only found out by accident - a chart report listed them.

Another thing... it definitely has to do with some generational planets too. Anyone even just a few months younger than me has their Pluto squaring my nodes. Yup, power play. And anyone born early in my year has their Jupiter squaring them from Taurus. Lol I got lucky, didn't I? :|

Then my dog's getting even worse. It won't be long anymore, sadly. ;__;

Anyway, enjoy your weekend. You too, Faith. Go get that break from the children.

posted November 21, 2013 10:34 AM            

I think the world of both of you girls but have been totally overwhelmed with everything lately and simply cannot catch up. Or maybe I should say I chronically can't KEEP up, though I love reading what you both write!

So my apologies..I think I will have to just bow out of this thread because all I will ever do is say, "Thanks so much for writing, be back later...and later....and later!" I just can't keep up no matter how fabulous you both are. Actually your magnificence is part of the problem, not kidding, cuz I don't want to write just any old reply off the top of my head, I want to sit with you a long time (like in that coffeeshop we mentioned) and stew over ideas...

...and I simply don't have that time, when all three of us have so many good things to say! Ugh. Need a time-compressor.

So I'm just saying Bye for now, I never did get to reply to everything from several pages ago, but you both are so busy, it might have just been way too long for both of you, anyway.

But I will see you around the forum! (When I even get time to be HERE...that's dwindling for me, too, lately.)

Big hugs and thanks for the conversation

posted November 25, 2013 04:45 PM            

We will miss you!

And thank you for all of these talks and of course the Birthday Reports.

Please do make time for yourself, the hubby and the gorgeous kids (with fabulous names ) Sure this is all very enjoyable, but you're right, it is hard to combine it with a hectic life.

Please take a break, enjoy... like that beautiful land, the boat, anything.

And do give me a poke now and then if we catch each other in a thread. <333 Hope to see you around!!

Actually, I'm not surprised, I mean, you're so busy and sometimes I felt a bit guilty for writing out such large chunks, didn't want you to feel like I'm demanding you to reply. I know that's not true, but you know...

Ahaha Saturnine woes.

I had a great time with you here and I'm so happy you decided to join in (even if it was just to wish me some good luck for the surgery).

posted November 27, 2013 09:35 AM            

Thank you for being so nice about it, I did feel really bad about not being able to make good on my promise to catch up. I think I could still do it but then, I wouldn't be able to reply to your responses again. Back to where I started!

But please DON'T feel bad about writing long messages to me, I loved them!

Hope life is good...no GREAT...for you both, and if not, I hope it becomes so very soon!

posted November 27, 2013 08:13 PM            

Let's make this an online journal. Come in and write about whatever you want.

posted November 30, 2013 05:50 PM            

I only had one dog in my life and it was just miserable losing him. I don't know what to say but I understand.

*hug for you*

*hug for your dog!*

posted November 30, 2013 07:09 PM            

Losing pets is tough. This is one of the reasons why I'm reluctant to get one.

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Banana dolphins for you and Faith. Hope they can make you two giggle

posted December 02, 2013 03:29 PM            

She's not really a hugger though. But I am.

Muddy: They did cheer me up! So cute. I love that idea, where did you get it from?

posted December 14, 2013 02:48 AM            

<3 Hope you and Faith are doing well.

How is your dog, Rie? How's school?

Wanna share with you two this song. I've been obsessed with it for the last couple of days. I love it, it makes me wanna dance and twirl 'round n 'round.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxiDmCr3h7Q

posted December 14, 2013 04:32 PM            

AND the banana dolphins, too! So gorgeous!

Everyone okay? Rie, how's your pup?

posted December 21, 2013 05:27 PM            

Muddy, oh, he has fun ideas. Please keep telling me some of those funny stories. They crack me up so much, you have no idea.

She's okay. I guess. It's going so-so. My uncle keeps nagging at me to just put her down and that I'm being inhumane for keeping her alive. Well... she can still eat (and enjoys it too), get down the stairs, see, hear, walk, run. Still very eager and enjoys to just sniffle at everything she sees outside. Her life still has quality and I see that. <3

Faith, how did the move go? Beginning to settle in yet?? Hectic I imagine with all the kids bouncing around. If you have any pictures you want to share, please do haha.

Another thing... about the Rape thread. We're in a - somewhat - private space here I think. Just wanted to say I believe you both and I'm genuinely sorry for the way the thread went out of hand. That must've been difficult reading through it while you both spoke up about something that personal, which takes so much courage. Thanks for trusting us here to say that. I really mean it. If either of you want to say anything else, go ahead. I believe you and ugh I got so mad reading about the bloody police or family not being on your side Muddy. Ugh I think I'm getting palpitations here - that's the last thing you needed after going through that!!! The lack of empathy you got there made me so uncomfortable. You even had your culture against you and the way you were raised.

Faith, I get why you didn't fight back. I wouldn't have either if the guy was that much bigger and stronger than me - so he could've seriously hurt me if he wanted to. Some defence classes actually teach you not to fight back and risk the attacker becoming even more aggressive. You were worried about your life, right? And why wouldn't you be?

Some people already said they want the thread to die off, so I won't bump it back up, but I still wanted to tell you this. You should hear it I believe you and that it was awful. Neither of you should've had to go through that.

posted December 21, 2013 05:40 PM            

I have something funny for you guys too. There was this thing in NL for Christmas - ad Advent Calendar with mini nailpolishes!
http://www.nenz.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/happy-item-ciate-adventskalender-insi de.jpg

I got creative and mixed some polishes with loose glitters behind one of the doors.

posted December 22, 2013 03:17 AM            

Faith, it’s cool that you n your family have moved into the new place. Your children must be very excited. You must be even more excited, with all the preparations for Christmas Please tell meee your Christmas menuuuuuuu......

Rie I gotta apologize for not replying emails, I actually forgot about it. Then I remembered and tried to open the email but I forgot my password. The thing is that google mail and yahoo suddenly require bloody phone numbers and such. The other day I tried to create a new account but a phone number is needed too. Haiz. I got impatient and I was like oh hell f*** it all lol.

Speaking of health issues, are you recovering ok? It’s tough balancing life pursuits when your health isn’t great. I hope that the new year will be brighter for you.

About your dog, why does your uncle keep nagging you about putting her down? If she couldn’t eat, move or if she were in some sort of constant pain, then mercy would be welcomed. But going by what you wrote, I agree that it looks like her life still has quality.

Thank you, it’s sweet n kind of you to say that <3 Rape and sexual abuse is a sensitive topic, to me talking about it is like treading on thin ice. It’s not easy explaining things, it’s such an intricate “net” of many factors. Lol I wrote a chunk of my experiences and I edited it out coz I think it was way too grisly, despite my effort to keep it simple and cut out the graphic parts.

Ah well it's all cool.

Hmm, yeah, culture... Kids often looks up to the grown-ups for guidance and wisdom. In my case all they tried to feed me was garbage. I believe that this is one of the reasons why I’m stubborn and I often stick to my feelings/beliefs to the bloody end <musing> It’s funny how everything connects as a series of causes and consequences.

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Oh god I love your nails. So glittery and festive *o* Here’s a nice makeup video of a glittery, golden look which I think will go very well with your nails: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCrFh3VryTY

or if you prefer a more fun n modern look: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jYX2hqowfg

You’re into make-up? Wow if you do a makeup look for Christmas please show the photos lol I’d love to see it. Working that Leo creativity girl kekeke. I love the feel of makeup brushes lol so soft.....

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For this Christmas I’m making some dresses. This one is not finished yet but I’m excited so I’m gonna show you and Faith anyway hahah.

This one was for my friend.

posted December 25, 2013 06:12 PM            

Oh my God, Muddy, these are so gorgeous. Your friend is so lucky getting that made all for her <333
Wow, you're very talented. For how long have you made dresses? It all looks so neat.

Ahh thanks for letting me know. Ahh they do? That's frustrating. Lol no they shouldn't put you through that kind of wait. Seriously, I kind of thought I'd been slipping up, sorry - did you get that last, shorter one at least? It's fine, you couldn't do much about it. <3
And I'm going to take advantage of being ahead with my timezone:

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!

Here's to a happy, healthy year with your husband.

Faith, did you have a white Christmas? Please send us some pics of the snow if you feel like it! Everything looks just so romantic. /sentimental Yes, I'm with Muddy, tell us something about the menu!

More soon it's getting late and tomorrow's another day of visiting family and such. My grandma's been pretty lonely so I want to see her.

If no-one else has made a thread on LL2.0 yet when I get back, I will.

posted December 27, 2013 09:21 AM            

And those dresses!!! I am just flabbergasted and jealous, to be blunt, that you can sew that well! Wish I could...but there are a lot of hobbies I don't take up because I fear my children getting in my way. Like knitting...I just imagine my little ones finding and unravelling whatever I start. I'm a little bit paranoid, but with good reason.

We actually don't celebrate Christmas. Not really. It's a long story...but we made up another holiday (aren't we so weird?) and the kids get presents then. Even if we did do Christmas, we live so far away from our families, it would just be us, anyway.

But my husband's extended family has a party...it's tonight...and we go to that just about every year. They are nice people but I always feel like an outsider...then again, I pretty much *always* feel like an outsider.

I will post snow pictures!

Rie, thanks for what you said about our comments on the rape thread. And again, I'm sorry you've had to deal with that kind of aggression, too. Like 12muddy said, for me it's such a complicated story, not easy to explain. I've never articulated the whole thing to anyone...contrary to what people assume with therapy, I'm pretty sure I'd feel worse if I talked about it.

I guess some men don't see what the big deal is with rape because they themselves think sex is enjoyable, so having it forced on them by a random stranger might be a welcome experience. Like having an ice cream sundae forced on them. They don't see it the way the victims see it, not at all. But, on the bright side, some men do get it. Gentlemen still exist!

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Rie, sending <3s to you and your dog!

12muddy you get birthday <3s! Talk to you both later.

posted December 28, 2013 09:31 PM            

Thank you sweethearts, I feel so gleefully happy that you like those dresses. Those two took me forever to sew, mostly because I’m so damn lazy. I started the projects at the beginning of the year, and for the first few days I sewed with gusto. Then I started to slack off and I didn’t touch it until December lol.

Faith I’d recommend that you have a private room for your hobbies. A place where kids aren’t allowed lol. Oh but your children are still small. Hmm I imagine that they’d be screaming for you. Well... perhaps when they are older, you’ll have a bit more time for yourself.

I’d love to hear the story behind your family tradition, haha you make my moon curious. My family is Christian so we do celebrate Christmas, his family is Buddhist so they don’t. The two of us celebrate Christmas coz most people do it lolol

Looking forward to your snow pictures.

Rie I hope you have a nice Christmas. Visiting your grandma sounds great. I can imagine you n her sitting around the fireplace telling stories, or baking cakes together in a warm kitchen. There is something so warm n sweet about that.

posted December 31, 2013 02:23 PM            

Your make-up tutorials inspired me a lot by the way. Been reading up more on make-up and such. It all looked so good, I wish I was that good.

Haha, it takes commitment. You finished them though! Please tell me what she thought of the dress. I'm sure she'll love it, though, it's just the sweetest gesture ever! But don't worry, just say you worked on it all year ^^ They don't need to know it was intermittendly. Maybe a New Year's Resolution? Do you do those? (Or Faith)

Ahh I agree, Faith, if you can, try to find some space for yourself where you can just go wild. I get your worry, though, kids stumbling into things they shouldn't see. ^^

And yeah, I get not telling anyone. Like... it's hard enough to keep it from taking over your whole life, no idea what's going to happen when you poke into it. Sometimes it's just easier not to deal. Of course there's a time for that, but yeah. I guess for us Caps (or my moon), it's just not that easy. What if you fall apart because of those feelings, you know? Thanks for your comment. I guess they are, right? You don't know what's going to happen if you fight back. We're not all kung-fu masters who can kick everyone's butt. But yes, and it showed in the thread. Your sons and husband too right?

I'd love to know about that alternate tradition too. Hmm, cool having a special thing for your own family. LOL Muddy, sticking to the tradition huh?

Thanks <3 It was okay, I didn't get to visit her as I got sick, but we did talk over the phone. It was nice to talk to her. Lol she's a chain smoker, so there's usually a smoke-covered room and curling up on that couch! I love my grandma, but it's very hard in dead winter without a door or window open. I've gotten used to it, but it's always a bit of a sacrifice. I go for a walk or do groceries about halfway through to get some fresh air. Mmmm baking cakes together. We haven't done that lately, but it'd be cool to do that again. She's not that good on her feet anymore, but her mind is still fantastic. She holds conversations easily, great memory, very intelligent. I'm so proud of her! Like at that age.

^ Me too, I bet they're gorgeous, Faith.

Haha, mine? Not too special. Oh, wait, we did go out to dinner on Christmas Day. Nice Italian food, but I don't have pictures. Some pasta and a large plate of antipasti. The cheese was best. Nom!

And lots of love back to you both. Blossom really needs it. My uncle is just a big tough guy, he gets horrified at the idea of being disabled in any way and at someone else's mercy. So he feels the same way about animals.

Sorry your family was so callous about it. It's times like these we need them and when they aren't there for you, like, it changes you. I probably sound like a jaded cynic here, but not surprised you've become so stubborn with a family like that.