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Topic: The Kindred Spirits Club.... How interesting.....
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Solane Star
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posted June 18, 2006 03:43 AM
  
Well with all this great Information and advice, I think we should try again and start another site for Kindred Spirits!!!!Still have that loving feeling going on for the Kindreds!!!! Here's to keeping that Spirit!!!! Here's to any sh!t that may of been in that pile 
and may we all learn from our mistakes!!! (Balance at it's best!!!!) I was also shocked and unaware of this post about Tink!!! Never seen it!!! Sorry to hear this, Tink!!!! And as far as Lotus is concerned, I don't really care what she thinks, I don't have to like everyone. I have just learned to let it slide right by and off of me. I just blow her negative energy off. That's my right. I don't pay it any mind any more, so it and she didn't really MATTER to me!!!! IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
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posted June 18, 2006 04:09 AM
See your msn email account?  IP: Logged |
Solane Star
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posted June 18, 2006 04:31 AM
Thanks AG!!!!!IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted June 18, 2006 07:02 AM
Once again, that was not a private Forum. It was an open Forum, just like Lindaland, although its membership was exclusive. I can't believe people were posting personal things as if it were so. If anyone has any saved material from there, I'd be interested in reading it, especially any of the two-faced derogatory statements I am hearing about and the more vile comments. I am getting e-mails from those "excluded" and from new Members here who are appalled that a site was created in which (whether that was the intent or not) those Knowflakes were talking about Lindaland and other Knowflakes. I, too, find that disturbing, to say the least.  ------------------
"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll IP: Logged |
lotusheartone
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posted June 18, 2006 07:31 AM
Sending EveryOne Lots of Love and Respect and Light to SEE. ...off to work..
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sue g
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posted June 18, 2006 10:11 AM
As far as I can remember, I was the most outspoken person there and only when we were asked who would join us.....I spoke out against Pid and Mirandee....not for the sake of being rude or vile, but becos I didnt see eye to eye with them and said so.....I didnt feel relaxed around them.What is the point of joining a kindreds forum when you are not. I have no problem with Pid now but dont wish to communicate with Mirandee... What is the problem there? And as I have chosen to ban myself from LL anyway, I didnt have to come in and say this....but it is the
T R U T H !!!!!!!!! If you guys dont wanna believe that, so be it... But at the end of the day, at least I have the courage to speak out, instead of being two faced. Both these women know how I feel/felt about them.....I dont grovel to them or any other....and I didnt at that time want either of them in my cyber life... Also I felt better able to be more explicit there with my words....whereas here I felt unable to push the boundaries. And for Gods sake why are you guys (not you Randall), getting so bloody involved and enmeshed in all of this.... If someone did the same to me, I would at least think I was interesting enough to be talked about, you know Oscar Wilde and all that.... I never cease to be amazed by human behaviour... Coming back as a rabbit next time!!!! IP: Logged |
Lialei
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posted June 18, 2006 11:41 AM
Eleanore, thanks for clarifying.
I suppose it was the laughing that gave me that impression. But I re-read your post and see you weren't generalizing.
A fellow Saggy. 
Well, then you would probably understand what the frustration feels like from having your character questioned when knowing you and others have been honest, kind and aboveboard. The frustration from feeling like you can't get that across and no one is listening or believing. Well, what it comes down to is we know and can't convince anyone else. So we can only continue onwards and hope that who we are and have been will stand on its own merit. Isis, I think I had you mixed up with salome.
The rapid influx of postings got me confused. So, sorry about that. Yeah, you didn't disagree about having the right to have the sight. Thanks for that. Randall, I don't remember one bad word ever uttered about LindaLand. It holds a special place in my heart, as I'm sure the others feel too. I've learned a lot here, and met so many amazing people whom I admire.  Many who weren't at Kindreds. And that doesn't necessarily mean they wouldn't have been wanted there. "Excluded" is a harsher word than the reality.
And I believe any negative things about Knowflakes you've probably already seen here in this thread.
I understand that it might bring thought that all sort of Knowflakes were discussed, but that isn't true!!
I can't understand why new members would care or write you concerned. It happens so often on the net that sites branch off from other sites. If I'm not mistaken, that is how LindaLand came about, isn't it? There is no threat to LindaLand or anyone else at this site. We simply aren't people who would be like that. It was like a group chat place and that's all. And not at all malicious or petty in intent. sigh. Ok...from here, guess what will be believed will be, and there's not a lot of point saying the same things over and over.
Lotus, guilty?
Ok, that would be like me saying to you,
"why do you need to go on and on about not joining Kindreds, unless you are guilty!!"
See what I mean? Or aren't you just defending your innocence? 
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cancerrg
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posted June 18, 2006 11:53 AM
RANDALL: its the respect for you and LL that compels me to post.
first, it was an open forum , technically it was , undoubtly ,but we tried keeping it private by not talking of it anywhere without everyone's concent .
and yes, people were posting personal things e.g. sue posted her and her son's pics which she might never do it here . thats what i and others meant by using the word privacy .
yeah , there were certain degartory reamarks , dont deny it , but tell me where ain't they ? the very people ( excepting you , i can understand your situation ) who are so appalled by the existence of KS , do they have a clean slate ?
my interaction with them has been very limited but i am sure i am not wrong in what i am stating . and yes , about the excluded , there were bound to be exclusion , it was meant to be that way ( ofcourse technically it was impossible but we survived for some eight months )
to tell you more , infact i wanted to invite celtic ,fb and others but no one showed much interest so i never asked them to .
infact , i was invited very late and i know of people who were invited but never joined . as for talking about them , ofcourse sometime there were talks , they are bound to be .
dont we all talkof LL in our real lives , i do ( ofcourse to a very select group of people ) and i am certain almost everyone does .
so that way , there were bound to be talks but that doesn't mean we were talking all nasty all the time ( not to deny a few exception )
infact i came to know of all this drama after some thirty hours .
believe me , i am not trying to defend anyone least of all myself , i am just trying to clear the air .
i think , you might have been hurt and if you seriously think we were wrong , you can any day expel me from here . and take my words , i wouldn't return with a different identity .
i'll be here as i always am with or without the post .
this post was out of respect for you and LL . IP: Logged |
fayte.m
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posted June 18, 2006 12:17 PM
Lia & Cancerrg Like I said, I was there for mainly two reasons.
One....to be free to talk about Lexigramming styles/rules that are not by Linda's rules.
I stopped talking about my way here at LL.
What was so wrong about that? Two....to be able to talk about philosophy/religions/past lives/gay issues etcetera, with out having mainly Lotus jumping me and going all rabid at me . And out of at least 8,000 postings at KS...I sincerely saw only 5 posts I saw that were offensive. And the two involved have openly confessed here to that here already!  That is LESS THAN 0.06% of ALL posts at KS! I DID READ ALL the posts there! If I were to do an analysis of nasty posts here at LL and a ratio of foulmouthed to nice posts the foul and cruel ratio would be much higher. There have been at this forum, so I have heard,(and NOT from any KS member) and several other websites, secret forums or secret chats where folks do/did talk nasty about open forum members in private. Such things got covered up very fast and such posts that exposed their secret behind the scenes talk were deleted. Why this KS business is being made into such a big deal makes little sense to me. 
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~I intend to continue learning forever~"Fayte"
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
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Mirandee
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posted June 18, 2006 12:38 PM
The feeling regarding communication is mutal with me, Sue. Now if you can refrain yourself from coming onto threads and attempting to build yourself up at my expense then we will get along just fine. My God, you even used my brother in laws horrible death to do that!! That's going a bit far in my opinion. You do have a habit of doing that not only with me but everyone that you somehow feel threatened by or just don't like for some reason. Truth to lies, Sue Deceptive people fear honesty with good reason.
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juniperb
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posted June 18, 2006 12:57 PM
cancerrg  " Deceptive people fear honesty with good reason" indeed Mirandee! quote:
There have been at this forum, so I have heard,(and NOT from any KS member) and several other websites, secret forums or secret chats where folks do/did talk nasty about open forum members in private. Such things got covered up very fast and such posts that exposed their secret behind the scenes talk were deleted.
Thats a serious allegation. Can it be substantiated? It would be disturbing to see a potential witch hunt hidden in "I`ve heard"
Question for Randall, if K.S. was Lindaland West... is this Lindaland South?
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Petron
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posted June 18, 2006 01:15 PM
fayte.....there were not 8,000 posts at "lindaland west"
there are over 407,000 posts here at LL, youre attempting to pick numbers out of thin air, comparing that percentage you made up to posts at LL wouldnt hold at all.....not even close....
and to keep suggesting that anything here at LL is even remotely as violent, pornographic, and insane as what was posted about tink is only making your defensive scratching more pathetic......
nor would have a post like that simply gone unnoticed here at the real LL..... now why dont you guys go join your "kindred spirit" magus at a more secure ....elitist non-democratic conclave, where you can maniacally hoot and howl and laugh together....... IP: Logged |
Randall
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From: The Goober Galaxy
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posted June 18, 2006 01:22 PM
Not true. We had a private Forum for Mods to discuss whether or not certain people should be banned (very few Knowflakes on the whole). I did it so as to have input from others before I made a rash decision myself. It was removed only because it was illegally hacked into by a particularly mentally-disturbed stalker type who was nonetheless a very good hacker despite his obvious delusions. Since the private could no longer be private, I pulled the Forum. You should have all discussed the exclusion parts through private e-mail, not on a public Forum. Or made the Forums themselves private and password protected. ------------------
"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll IP: Logged |
fayte.m
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posted June 18, 2006 01:26 PM
juniperb...
No I cannot prove all of it and am not going to either. Why bother? I was simply making a point that these things do happen. It is human nature. But that is the nature of the rumor and gossip mills isn't it? Some things are true...some are not.
And folks not staying quiet long enough to see what a thing is really about..as with KS before shooting off their mouths. I only brought up the secret forums/chats to serve as an example not to start a new attack gossip thread. So let it be. It is just the way things are. Not worth the time to dig up or reveal any details.
So unless you or others are planning a witch hunt your statement does not apply.
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"Thats a serious allegation. Can it be substantiated? It would be disturbing to see a potential witch hunt hidden in "I`ve heard"
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There is no witch hunt hidden there. Nor a desire for one. I was only making a point. Nothing more.
The Witch hunt on KS already exists.
People are "hearing" alot of false accusations and innuendo here concerning KS. Indeed a witch hunt has ensued that had no bearing on the actions and words of the vast majority at KS.Like I said..
The percentage of offensive to wonderful nice posts at KS was 0.06%. That means
that 99.94% of posts there were VERY GOOD AND NICE! Rant over. ------------------
~I intend to continue learning forever~"Fayte"
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
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Randall
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posted June 18, 2006 01:41 PM
A few discussion boards have arisen from LL, and they are still up and running and even have a decent amount of anti-LL rants in them. That's not the concern. The question lies in why was KS deleted and why did Members drop their names off like flies when exposed? I gather it was a completely uncensored venue and that those accepted could pretty much say and post anything. Correct? I spend a tremendous amount of money keeping Lindaland running and at the top of the search engines, so I am doubly insulted to know that my financial efforts have been used to cull Members for a site that 1. Excludes anyone for any reason and 2. Speaks badly of those whose Members were culled from. ------------------
"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll IP: Logged |
fayte.m
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posted June 18, 2006 01:41 PM
Petron...
You are correct.
It was approximately 8,000 "ARTICLES", not posts.But that make my point even more! 
Thank you for pointing that out! I shall attempt to get the actual numbers! Randall, thank you for your explanation.But members were not being culled away from here. I am at several forums as are many here at LL. What is so wrong with that?
And as to the deletions of the posts and my name off the memberlist....
I do not know what happened. I had nothing to do with that matter. All I know is it was gone when I tried to log in there. I think it was done to protect folks' percieved privacy. Yes it was not private after all. I knew that. Ok.
Can this curent witch hunt now end please?
This is not good for anyone here. And Petron I am not ashamed of my posts. Some private things, & mostly personal health stuff I would not want out here. End this witch hunt please.
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~I intend to continue learning forever~"Fayte"
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
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Randall
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posted June 18, 2006 01:45 PM
Once again, there was nothing private about KS! NOT PRIVATE! It was on all the search engines for anyone to read. Away from Lindaland? Yes. Private. NO! ------------------
"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll IP: Logged |
juniperb
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posted June 18, 2006 01:48 PM
Fayte.m, much much more of the site was read than the thread titled "Piduau" or Magus`s rant about tink.
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And folks not staying quiet long enough to see what a thing is really about..as with KS before shooting off their mouths
When one sees a board called Kindred Spirits/Lindaland West with a forum titled Free For All & a thread contains a title name of a specific Lindaland member w/that member being picked apart, does that NOT set the tone for the sites Intentions? 
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Petron
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posted June 18, 2006 01:49 PM
no fayte , we're talking about the same thing.....posts, not topics.....there are 27,837 topics here at LL with over 407,300 "posts" **i can only say how many posts were listed in the members list i copied which was short after several people dropped off if you can find over 50 posts here at LL as violent, pornographic, and insane as that one by magus then your attempted comparison might hold.....
good luck jim!!
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fayte.m
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posted June 18, 2006 02:00 PM
Randal you are correct.
It was not that private. I told folks we were on the search engines. So it was only a matter of time before we were "found".juniperb....
I have been shredded here at LL. Does that mean Lindaland is a bad place? Others have been badmouthed here too.
It happens.
Perhaps I did miss some of those so called posts you speak of. But I really only remember a few that were offensive. As for mentioning names...how else does one talk concerning someone's post at any open forum, not just LL, speaking even nicely about those someones without using a name?
We talk about political leaders and other folks.It is what people do. And Petron...in that case my 0.06% offensive to 99.94% unoffensive still stands.
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~I intend to continue learning forever~"Fayte"
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
-NEXUS-
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Azalaksh
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posted June 18, 2006 02:09 PM
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Once again, there was nothing private about KS! NOT PRIVATE! It was on all the search engines for anyone to read. Away from Lindaland? Yes. Private. NO!
Randall, may I say that I, and probably many of us, were not quite as technically savvy about "privacy" and web spiders and such in the beginning as we are now. It has been a painful lesson, although a necessary one.IP: Logged |
Petron
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posted June 18, 2006 02:13 PM
who knows?? the site was flushed down the toilet almost immedietly, and your ruling circle seem to be acting as if there was no backup made......but your constant comparison to posts here are just another attempt at insulting people here while apologizing for magus.....
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AcousticGod
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posted June 18, 2006 02:20 PM
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The question lies in why was KS deleted and why did Members drop their names off like flies when exposed?
Well, I deleted it, so I guess I'm the only one who can answer that. It certainly wasn't for MY benefit that I deleted everything. Like I've said, I deleted it simply out of respect to the people who were at K.S. and wanted privacy. That's all. That's the ONLY reason I did that. Names dropping like flies? I didn't see that. I myself deleted like 6 or 7 people in haste including myself, which was particularly stupid, because when I did that I lost administrative power. Oh well, so be it. Lots of people have shown up here stating that they stand by what they said over there. Would they do that if they were so concerned about getting caught talking behind someone's back? Would you? quote:
I spend a tremendous amount of money keeping Lindaland running and at the top of the search engines, so I am doubly insulted to know that my financial efforts have been used to cull Members for a site that 1. Excludes anyone for any reason and 2. Speaks badly of those whose Members were culled from.
I asked the question about privacy (whether we should have it or not), and the policy came from the answer. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
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posted June 18, 2006 02:26 PM
I just sent Randall a ton of links to parts of K.S. quote:
but your constant comparison to posts here are just another attempt at insulting people here while apologizing for magus.....
Really? I'll send you links if you want to see how closely they match Petron. I culled a ton of them this morning to respond to Randall's post. I've got listings of threads from most if not all of the major categories, and I've got individual pages from threads there. I know you have a passionate hatred of Magus, but K.S. wasn't Magus's board of hate where he went around cussing and ranting all the time. It just wasn't. Acousticgod@sbcglobal.net if you want a list of links. IP: Logged |
lotusheartone
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posted June 18, 2006 02:28 PM
AG..you told me in email..that you could not retrieve any of the information???IP: Logged | |
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