posted June 17, 2006 09:51 AM              

Not gonna lie and say I didnt. But at the time Pidaua and I were not seeing eye to eye..she pi**ed me off and I her. At that time, I didnt want to communicate with her and I was honest about that!

However, I changed my mind along the way....you were there for me Pid when I was down, and I then realised you genuinely wanted to help...and I was glad to see you in love and getting married...that really uplited me and I felt happiness for you. I think also here at LL, I apologised to you for my behaviour...

So again yes I admit, I was critical....and I dare to admit that I am human...!! I also dare to admit, that maybe I shouldnt have said those things about Pid?

As for calling you Piddle Pants....yes I did....and how funny to have someone running to you saying "she called you a name"....hahaha...sorry but I find this bloody hilarious....
It gave me a great laugh... ....real schoolgirl behaviour!

But my name calling wasnt malicious at all, just my devilment, my naughty sense of humour....

So for that I will hope that you understand this...if not I am sorry....

Thats all I need to say really guys...and maybe I will ban myself from this forum, before I get booted off...

Strange really, cos I had decided to not post for a while anyway....must have been getting the "vibes".

Happy wedding day Pid...hope all yer dreams come true.

Peace

posted June 17, 2006 10:27 AM              

Pid, I'm sorry you had to see that I imagine it feels like a betrayal of sorts. Well, At least now you know who to watch out for.
But remember to consider the source. Always consider the source.

All of this reminds me a bit of the time daf found people discussing his faults on that other website.

*shrugs* human nature, I guess.

I do have one question though. Were any of the people there moderators here?

posted June 17, 2006 10:41 AM              

but if the ninnys and yets here must have theri fingers on the panic buttons and their tongues spouting acusations of insecuritys.

As mostly all of you can remember my and a few others antics where causing alot of grife and complaints from the "lets censor everything" enthusiast's around here.

I personaly became very tired of being in the middle of discusing something that could actualy be usefull too learn and share, then too have interuptions of the most obsurd complaints.

It was even sugested by some of my more well known critics that my material of discusion and I perhaps werent apropriate for this forum, so a new one was made for us.

Is that realy a sin or in any ill light ?

Of course we all agreed too do vote ins for who we let there after all the childish grief we where reading around here. We didnt need any more bickerings if it could be helped.

And as far as us erasing and deleting everything now that our privacy has been raped [knew it would inevatbly happen eventualy, just didnt expect it too be you Pid ], besides those being our private conversations amongst freinds who dont judge-

a few of us had pictures and other very personal information we didnt want being publickly shared and viewed there.

Is that so bad, too be picky and selective in who acrost the globe knows what we look like and who we are, more detail of where we live ?

This thread, and the childish nit picking contained herin is exactly why Kindred Spirits was made. This is why we all had too agree before alowing someone in-

too avoid uneeded highschool styled dramas.

And Petron, I thought you would be happy too know I took my Magget antics elsewhere.

posted June 17, 2006 11:04 AM              

Obviously some feelings were going to be hurt. No one enjoys being talked about behind their back. We all know it's done, but seeing it in black and white is another matter altogether.

posted June 17, 2006 11:28 AM              

And all these considerations I indeed do in not only reaquainting my self with my humanity, but also my ever ongoing atempts too master and rise above the more petty passions of my mortal blindness.

If I had it my way it wouldnt have been Pidua who came acrost KS and took offence [I was always hoping it too be lotus too make the discovery, especialy considering my personal writings on her never ending wisdomes], too our private forum - I was one of the first in KS wanting too see Pidua there. I doubt that she and I have ever seen totaly eye too eye, but Ive always enjoyed her firey Sagitarian ways even if very different views then my own.

Unfortinatly I didnt get my way in being able too invite her due too a few of my own favorate of freinds not yet apreciating her at the time.

Thats just how it worked there- if even one kindred voiced that they didnt feel comfortable with someone being there, and gave reasonable explanation as too why, then it was a no go.

Kindreds was for sharing any idea, with any content, without having too worry about who was gona flip out and make a big stink about it till it becomes a big drama. Most of the time this process worked very well for our intents.

Unlike my sentimates for lotus's complaints here, I am personaly sorry that it was Pid who has taken us the wrong way.

Still I stand by my stance that we did nothing wrong, broke no universal code's. If anything KS helped derail what could have been alot of uneeded controversy and episodes of drama here in LL, and gave us a more private place too get too know freinds from afar without having too worry about a larger audiance viewing what was some very personal information [including personal pictures and information of residencies].

Its my wish and request that any one who was a kindred dont bother defending ourselves from here on. We've already stated the truth and defence for our violated privacy's, let any peanut gallerys criticise us if they have nothing better too do, no better point too view us from.

posted June 17, 2006 11:38 AM            

Since you only named one name, I’m forced to assume that you consider me among those with “tarnished reputations”. It is regrettable that “unsuspecting” souls may have found KS and read things that disturbed them, and I feel sad about that. But if you’re looking for an apology from me, it won’t be forthcoming.

posted June 17, 2006 11:45 AM            

Didn't Johnny tell you that he is married to both fayte and I now?????

posted June 17, 2006 11:56 AM              

I didn't see your website so my pride wasn't injured. I felt no sense of brotherhood with you or any of your friends ( no doubt the feeling was mutual ) so I had no desire to join. But I do sympathize with those who discovered it.

Hell Magus, I'll defend the existence of your website if you're too high and mighty to be bothered. But a simple and gracious - sans excuses - apology for what a few people saw written about themselves seems to be in order.

Or you can all just tell everyone that you couldn't care less how they feel and what they think and they can all f*ck off and deal with it.

posted June 17, 2006 12:05 PM              

Apparently some things were said - and of course you all had the right to say them - but apparently they weren't exactly nice things and the ones who saw those things said about themselves most likely won't think highly of the ones that said it. Hence, "tarnished reputations".

I imagine if you came across a site were I and a few others were discussing you and the many things we don't like about you I wouldn't be too high on your list of favorite people. No? Hence, "tarnished reputations". On the other hand, if I said, "Zala, it wasn't my intention for you to hear that and I'm sorry that you did" well then maybe it would clear the air a bit. Just a thought.

posted June 17, 2006 12:20 PM              

and i satnd by whatever views i have expressed at KS . i am not the kind of person to stab someone from the back , if i have to , i 'll do it here on the face .
but yes , i was silent about KS just bcos i wanted to respect other's privacy .

i stand by whatever i said about pid( she is one of the few that i have had an altercation with . ok, i might include sg , but my sentiments for her are still same dispite all odds . ( in johnny's post , mine is the first view )

and randall , i think the posts were erased to save the privacy of views , nothing to do with the kind of realtion we share at LL . though , personally i am very ok with people knowing about my views . no probs with that . i am what i am .
i hope , you understand .

and btw, pix , where have you posted your new pics here ? will i have to work again to type a new boring analysing post?

posted June 17, 2006 12:35 PM              

and the fact that you erased it and did it all behind our backs..is a simple fact that it was wrong..you could of just came out and said it here. ...

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posted June 17, 2006 12:37 PM            

Perhaps I’m more cynical than you, but I doubt that any kind of “apology or regrets” will “clear the air”. And I have not been designated Chief KS Apologist by our democratic contingent. And, like cancerrg, I stand by what I wrote and don’t feel that I personally have anything to apologize for.

As for that hypothetical

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site where I and a few others were discussing you and the many things we don't like about you I wouldn't be too high on your list of favorite people. No?

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posted June 17, 2006 12:40 PM            

Most of the people there were from LL, and if they posted something over there while not posting it over here then there must be some reason for that. The reason was that there was more of a feeling of safety over there. Most of those posts didn't have a thing to say about anyone here.

posted June 17, 2006 12:57 PM            

I'm pretty certain that I come across similarly. Easy to love on the one hand, and a pain in the ass on the other. That's just the way it goes for people who stick to the principles they believe in.

Lotus,

Yes, privacy. Plain and simple. You don't need to know about the health or relationship or spiritual issues of people there. If they want people here to know about them, they'll post it here.

posted June 17, 2006 01:05 PM              

Eavesdropping never ends well for either party, does it?

What can you do when someone over hears those sorts of conversations? Maybe get defensive and tell the eavesdropper that they should have minded their own business and it's their own damn fault they heard things that upset them? Maybe say you're sorry that they overheard the negative things and graciously take the hit? Maybe do what what cancerrg did and say you stand by everything and you'd say it again?

There's kindness in the 2nd choice and a certain honor in the 3rd ... but I don't think the 1st has much going for it.

AG - rather than a knee-jerk defense of your entire site, possibly a quick look at Pid's first posts would help? She's not attacking the site, per se, she's complaining about what was said about her and other LL members. Naturally, reading that stuff would make anyone distrustful.

Why is that so very hard for you all to understand?

Not apologizing because you're afraid it won't be accepted is, forgive my bluntnes, a lame excuse.

posted June 17, 2006 01:37 PM            

I guess that's what I was trying to say earlier about there being two sides of her. There's definitely a good portion of her personality that I genuinely enjoy, and we've been friends enough for it to feel like a betrayal of sorts to discuss her elsewhere. I'm sorry about that.

posted June 17, 2006 01:38 PM            

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