posted June 19, 2006 12:50 PM              

You're Great! Randall. ...

thanks so much..for all your tolerance..

posted June 19, 2006 01:03 PM            

I am sorry it took so long for me to post again on this thread. I wanted to apologize for mis-reading your post.. I am just now able to get to this thread as I was out of town in Phoenix for Father's Day. I am only on page 3 but I wanted to post to you before I read anything else.

posted June 19, 2006 01:22 PM            

1) Pixie - no.. nothing ever came from you and I have nothing against you at all

Let me reiterate my point.

There was a list of names - threads about people here and whether or not we were worthy of being able to join. Some things said about people were "vile" and I am not talking about Sue referring to me as piddle-pants. I am talking about 2-3 people that turned that site into a burn book of sorts.

They are also people that post here on a regular basis acting as if any kind of closed door conversations or cliques are wrong. They act as if they are above board, enlightened and want to help all the souls by bestowing their knowledge upon them.

It's severely hypocritical. I could care less about the crap written about me- again I WOULD NEVER join such a group. But, when I read stuff about other people I become outraged... should Cardinalgirl be allowed to join? Hmmm.. well, she did have that post about bombs in London.. well, what about Mirandee or HSC (one is allowed because they are nice but there have been issues once or twice - and then it went into attacking Mirandee).

With mine someone, who thinks he is incredibly superiorly intelligent described me as a "Sag on the go that drops in from time to time" He discussed our exchange or e-mails and that he liked me - UNTIL I would debate a point - because then I would stay my ground regardless and he thought that was wrong and that made me a know it all. Oh yes.. .and then there was the fact that I am Conservative (nice touch) Okay..no big deal - but in this forum we appreciate people that can stick to their point - that can hold their ground etc....

His opinion began to sway as others joined in - that was just ONE thread. There were others about other people. I chose NOT to post them because why bring out even more hurt? I used myself as an example because I found it...

What irks me is the hypocritical nature of some. The person that held the fate of others in his hand is also the person that wanted the ability to discuss a person's chart for ill - against them without asking permission.

At LL we have always been against the negative use of a chart to cast a person as inferior, stupid or to gain leverage in an argument. This person (and a couple of others) was told it was wrong to do such a thing with out permission, not just by me but several other people. He acted above the rules and said "I see nothing wrong with it". Great.. just because YOU see nothing wrong doesn't make it right.

I see this person as being snively and pathetic in that he couldn't get his way here... so he finally got a little bit of power by judging others on the KS site.

And now we are left with a site that been edited - people who may have been on that site (and guilty of their little teenage style antics) so they come here and say "Oh you are making something out of nothing"

Hmmmm...what to do? DO I post what I copied and pasted to demonstrate just how innocuous it wasn't?

No.... I won't do that. Maybe next time they will learn to hide their posts or keep them in an e-mail.

TINK.... I am so sorry you had to endure that... OMG... My heart is breaking for you.

I knew there was something more to what was there... some of it I have copied - so of it I didn't get a chance. I never saw that post about TINK...

posted June 19, 2006 01:46 PM              

Fun stuff to come back to, huh?

"***** TINK .... "

???

Not sure what you mean?

As you keep reading thru the thread you'll see that it was the, as you said, "Oh you are making something out of nothing" attitude that was upsetting me. Not so much the name calling itself.

But .. whatever. To each their own, I guess.

posted June 19, 2006 01:54 PM            

LOL... I had said something about "if you think this was just about me being called a few names" but then I read on and realized that wasn't what you meant at all. Then I saw what you posted about you... and my stomach just clenched.

I think there are a few here (or from there) that obviously were the kids that got picked on in school- so when they had the chance to hold some kind of power, especially over those they hated - they couldn't wait to do it. They try to pretend they did nothing wrong, or that it's ME that is paranoid for doing a google search (yet most of us do that since our information IS on the net- only an idiot would bury their head in the sand and think that ID theft doesn't exist).

I'm still reading... half of it I can't believe I am seeing...

Pixie..

Again, I am sorry I didn't respond earlier, I was out of town. I, in NO way, ever placed you as being someone that would hurt another.. never... I feel the same way with Zala and Sueg and I may not have agreed on things, but she did not say anything horrid that I saw... Hell, she called me piddlepants here and I thought it was kind of funny.

In any case, I am talking about a certain core group... and we know who they are.

posted June 19, 2006 02:15 PM            

"And Pidaua..I stayed out of it when certain folks badmouthed you. But what you did here by exposing us was wrong."

Really? Forgive me for exposing the crap that was being said about people. Forgive me for doing search on my name and finding a site that welcomed the crap that was spewed out by some?

I don't think so... and the more I read about the statements being made here, the happier I really am for exposing the hypocracy contained in that damn site.

AGAIN... .I did not say I was against people have a site - but it was.. oh sh1t nevermind.. it doesn't matter - those that acted like a horses a$$ will never admit what they did.

Magus,

YOU are a sick son of a b1tch. I will tell you this - the vile putrid filth you call words that come out of that mish mash of nueronal tissue you call a brain, tells of the kind of person you are deep down inside. I hope you cross the path, physically, of a strong woman like me... because when you cross a person like that, they will be happy to put that well deserved bullet into your head. The filth you typed demonstrates what is in your heart and I could give a sh1t less about the happy horse sh1t enlightened people that will say I am being mean.

F*ck them and F*ck you because they just don't want to admit the kind of monster you really are to say such things, in anger or otherwise.

I reserve the same anger I have for pedophiles and rapist for you as well.

posted June 19, 2006 02:37 PM              

LOve and Respect for ALL..

posted June 19, 2006 02:43 PM              

And I was getting to accept and like you.....

This is HORRIBLE, really really CRUEL....what are you doing girl.....?

Come on, burn this.....write it down on a piece of paper and burn it and then delete is from here.....please??!!!

This is as bad as what you are complaining Magus wrote.....and actually in my eyes, its worse....you have surprised me....wishing someone to put a bullet in another human being's head.....oh God.....and then calling them a monster!

Please, now you have got it off yer chest......remove it from this board.....it isnt right at all....

posted June 19, 2006 03:06 PM              

DEATH THREATS from you????????????????????

that is just as nasty whether he deserves a lambasting or not!

I have given him serious what for for being crude!

But to wish DEATH UPON ANOTHER?????????

I approved of you being invited Pidaua!

But then I did no know you either.

So even though I knew you and I did not agree on poitics and religion I did not mind.

I would not wish DEATH on you or anyone here.
Even the ones who have threatened me!

Magus's words often make me SHUDDER...
But YOUR DEATH wish to him makes me even sicker because You might actually mean it!

Is that the lesson for this world???
KILL KILL KILL ANYONE ???????
Where does it end???????

Yeah..some folks deserve the chair. But badmouthing is not a DEATH sentence offense! If it were there would not be many people left on earth!

posted June 19, 2006 03:07 PM            

There are a few things I will always stick by Sue - I am anti-violence to women (rape, domestic etc, at the hands of a man - Even Petron was right in chastizing Bear (my fiance) for making a comment that could have been deemed violent towards the troll. He apologized and admitted (to me) that he went too far.

I am against pedophiles and as harsh as my words are, I stand by them. If that means losing your favor, well, it wasn't like I had it for all that long anyway now did I?

If Magus had said those things here to TINK we all would have come out fighting AND he would have been banned.

The fact that people want to make excuses for him or for Zala to have to nerve to ask me how this thread makes me feel- God, what is worse?

I will never tolerate violence against women or children (or animals).

posted June 19, 2006 03:09 PM            

Who knows ... maybe a year from now another big can of worms will be opened and then this thread will be dragged back up again for someone to "make a point".

So let's hear what she has to say and then, after some more heat I'm sure, maybe this thread can be laid to rest hopefully for a long, long time.

posted June 19, 2006 03:29 PM              

One would hope that love and christianity would soften a person......or at least enable them to apologise after such an outburst. Such harsh words girl.....so unkind...this has saddened me.

Oh God.....

posted June 19, 2006 03:41 PM            

Yes.. that was me making a death threat.

Give me a **** *ing break!! A death threat is if I were to say "Magus, I am going hunt you down and put a bullet in your head"

The insinuation that if Magus carries his violent nature into the real world and used it on me - YES, I would kill him - in self defence. Remember I am PRO-death penalty and I own a gun.

It is my experience, coming from a law enforcement family, that people that make threats of ghastly violence towards a woman (and not just "oh, I hope you get what you deserve b1tch") but when they actually MAP out what SHOULD be done.. .

You know..

"Not the kind of ass-raping that feels good but the kind that hurts".

THAT my dear is a look into the mind of someone that actually has issues with women. He has made several comments on LL that went to far as well.

NORMAL people don't do that.

I find it freaking hard to believe you people would defend that cow-pie's honor yet it p1sses you off when someone like lotus tells you to go within.

Now, let me think about a few things....

I said that I didn't really give a rats scrotum what you (meaning the jerks that had a field day making fun of and excluding people) said about me - BUT, I hated what I read about other people - that sickened me - I am used to people on here telling me I am too harsh to tolerate - oh well, sorry. But, some of the crap said of others was below the belt.

I have already said that I would not have been a part of that stupid exclusionary site - right? So why would I even want the respect or friendship of those most guilty of saying the crap about people here?

Again, I am happy people made nice here - but I have NEVER in my life tolerated being with friends that discriminated others by determining if they were cool enough or not. I was popular, played sports and hung out with the "in" crowd and I NEVER let them tell me who I could be friends with or not.

I continue to live by that standard.

Sue,

You can play holier than though- but keep in mind - my comment is in reference to him carrying out a certain threat or behaviour. I am against rapists - if we was just a normal guy that came across a woman that just killed him, I'd want her to get the death penalty as well.

But that was not the case now was it? Again, a person does not say violent vile things such as calling for rape against a woman, without having that in their minds.

If you want to call my "response" actions to someone that would do something like that "Meaning a reaction to an action..... suffering a consequence" then so be it. Then again, it wouldn't surprise me since so many people think that we also deserved what happened on 9-11 and that we're wrong to dish out the consequence.

I find it sickenly funny that people use Christianity against another when it suits them.

1) Being Christian does not mean we are to always turn the other cheek

2) Being Christian means we still abide by the rules- whether than means serving a consequence for an action.

3) Should Magus ever cross my path and use violence against me in the way that he protrayed against Tink or if I saw a man carrying out that violent behaviour, I would kill him in a second and never feel bad.

posted June 19, 2006 04:02 PM              

So imagine my surprise to find my post way down in the middle of this page...totatally unrelated to what I was referring too.

*sigh*....

....anyway.....

EDITED.....

For the simple reason that I posted a "cheers' smilie following Miarandee and Salome's posts thinking my post would be next...*sigh*

Upon checking out my post....lo and behold...there is the cheers smilie right under Pid's post.....in the middle of the next page!

posted June 19, 2006 04:11 PM            

Please extend her the courtesy to react, without jumping all over her....

I'm sure she didn't mean 'death threats' she was just reacting to the vile feeling in her stomach.
It's okay to be outraged and get mad, and feel sickened by what someone said.

I'm sure if she considers it an actual death threat, she'd recant.... but was reacting with anger for her convictions, which what she read awakened in her.

Relax! PLease!
Everyone's jumping on everyone else... just let it evolve and finish...
perhaps.

posted June 19, 2006 04:22 PM            

Hey, I am not singling him out baby.. In my heart I knew there was something disturbed about a few people here. Too sickenly sweet, too eager to push off that enlightened crap.. Oh we must love each other, meanwhile you couldn't go back to that special place under your rock and talk about how stupid everyone here was and how you couldn't deal with our idiocy...on and on..

Well, you got caught.. with your pants down, in mid sentance being malicious on one site and acting like a pure pillar of LindaLand on the other site.

I am NOT sorry for what I did. I almost was, especially when I read some of the stuff said about people I care about- but then I saw the assnine responses to the hurt feelings people had here.

The same little groups started to attack Salome, Petron, jwhop, lotus and others that always attack people. People stood up for the offensive Magus because "well he never said anything bad about me"

Oh acting like snively pathetic little worms... Even going so far as comparing your little b1tchfest to a private moderator site the was hacked into. Or better yet ACCUSING Randall, jwhop and I as being in a league together.

Yep.. typical... get caught, throw rocks at your neighbor, try to deflect as quick as possible.. deny, deny, deny.....

How can I feel sorry for exposing the few here that pretended to be so tolerant yet couldn't wait to backstab when they thought they were alone....

AG - I could care less if you like me or not. I am confident in how I feel about you as you have proved yourself to me nothing more than well.... we pretty much know how I feel about you. Your approval of my light hearted nature vs your disapproval of my heavy hand when it comes to my debating politics means less that nothing to me. Who do you think you are even insinuating you have some kind of influence over me or how I act?

That is typical of man with a inferiority complex, which is most likely why you didn't come out against Magus, you understand him. Love the woman when she is compliant, funny and makes my heart flitter about - hold her down and ridicule her when she says something displeasing, coarse or against my will.

LMAO...

Like the Leo Adrianne Curry (not the brightest bulb but had an interesting quip) said when questioned her fiance's outdated thoughts on women "This is 2006 not 1812 for God's sake).

You're opinion and few other's from that website mean nothing to me at all. You don't even count as far as I am concerned.

~I apologize to those that I have offended, to those that have been exposed to the cross-fire. Sometimes.. Pluto conjunct ascendant does what it does... and has to live by it.

WriteSomething, yes I do find it odd that a Sag Sun / Aries moon found it - but not too odd.

posted June 19, 2006 04:30 PM            

One more thing.. You are one of the people that got caught in the cross fire.. You never said anything about anyone and I want that to be clear. Same with Zala..

I also want to give big hugs to Randall, for never playing that way- for never excluding people (only banning them when they crossed the line - and he is even patient about that).