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AcousticGod
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posted June 18, 2006 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My intent was not to argue with the people here about K.S. I only intended to clear the air as much as possible.

If actions speak louder than words, and virtually all but one person stayed or came back and continued to post at LL I don't see how Zala's words are a contradiction.

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Mirandee
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posted June 18, 2006 10:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is BS Jwhop. You are the one always putting in the NewsMax, Fox News propaganda crap of lies about Bush. I counteract it with the real facts.

You are a sad old man filled with so much hate that you label everyone and everything that disagrees with your philosophy as the enemy, Jwhop. You hate anything you do not understand or even want to understand. You fear the truth, Jwhop which is why you hate me and others here at GU who tell the truth that counteracts your lies.

Uh, I don't belong to KS dummy and anything I have ever had to say to you was to your face or at least in post to you to read.

Also, don't tell me what to do and not what not to do. I used your name because you are the best case in point for the proof that what Randall said about not allowing name calling at LL is not true. Everyone here knows that too.

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Johnny
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posted June 18, 2006 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Johnny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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It's the desire to stay and argue with the "mob" that I don't understand.

Ha. Even when some names were removed from the memberlist, cries of "Look at the rats jumping ship," and "Look at the cockroaches scurrying in the light," rang out all over the place.

Are you saying that ignoring these accusations wouldn't be seen as tantamout to an admission of guilt?

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Harpyr
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posted June 18, 2006 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hm.

no matter what new bit of drama lights the fuse, it always seems to ressurect the same old, unresolved discussion...

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TINK
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posted June 18, 2006 10:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm wondering why, days later, you're still here defending yourself to a bunch of ... how did you say? ... busybody woman with nothing else to do with their time.

In all honesty, johnny, why bother explaining yourself to such an extent to a lousy pack of rabid wolves?

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Johnny
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posted June 18, 2006 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Johnny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're right, Harpyr. Good observation -

I vote you take the role of narrator for this thread.

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TINK
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posted June 18, 2006 10:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The rat comment btw had nothing to do with the member list. It was in reference to the somewhat peculiar fact the Magus' rant seemed to be shouted out in an empty room.

You're right, Harpyr. And I don't think this will be resolved. I think someone needs to close the thread.

Maybe we should have picked a moderator after all.

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Johnny
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posted June 18, 2006 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Johnny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I'm wondering why, days later, you're still here defending yourself to a bunch of ... how did you say? ... busybody woman with nothing else to do with their time.

I wasn't making a generalization with regards to a group, there, Tink. People who are otherwise uninvolved and ignorant of the situation, but who continue to stick around and pass judgement strike me as busybodies.

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In all honesty, johnny, why bother explaining yourself to such an extant to a lousy pack of rabid wolves?

There are only a few people like that here, and I kinda-sorta try to ignore them. Everyone else's opinions matter to me, so I stick around.

Also, this seems to be where all the action is on this site, so hey.

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Petron
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posted June 18, 2006 10:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
johnny.......

the first time i saw magus in gu , someone called his remarks "idiocy" , and i defended him.....

a few posts later he started spouting off with his crude insults.....i asked him politely to stop......

a few posts later he was threatening to kill jwhop....

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Nor do I need yours or Randalls assistence in finding where your[or anyone] at if I wish to pay a visit.


I realy dont know if you would take me on a one on one fist fight. Nor do I care.


If I were to do that much homeowrk on you [what a waist of time and posably money], go down there, follow your daily routine for a few days,,,. Lets just say I dont think Id be knocking on your front door saying "high Im Magus".

Id probobly have my Mozen Megant pointed at your nose from about 200 to 300 yards away- locked and loaded.


After all, thats one of the ways this countrys government would get rid of me if they ever find me to be a threat to them.

Hey jplop-

Its on,,, but when and how I wish it to be. Im gona have a smile on my face when I have you Shi#in your grimy pants.

magus of music


in fact, when i quoted him in the "what are the rules?" thread was when sue g ran off crying and had the thread deleted, and i guess thats why you guys started ks eh?

**********

so fayte, you say this....

quote:
Magus does get very wound up and brutally blunt and yes..rather crude and rude sounding. I agree with you on that!
BUT....
Consider what insulting verbage he is responding to....
I do not think he means to be so brash...but he is being honest and responding with an eye for an eye.--fayte.m

this is what i mean about apologizing for magus.....

perhaps you could point out what vile statement tink made to him that you are equating with this......

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F*CK

F*CK

F*CK

F*CK

F*CK

F*CK TINK,, TILL IT HURTS HER !!!

She is just one more Scorpio in a pop cultured world that made the huge mistake of not questioning her american "right wing " [and Im sick of those pathetic pollitical labels] conditioning.... Very detramental to any Plutonian,,, maybe even mroe then for Uranians... Shes just a dried up old hag, trying to make ehr self feel competant and imprtant ,,,much like the infomous jplop.

What a total waist of good potent root of lifes sexual essence energy !!!

F*CK THE BLOODY BUTT F*CK OFF sTINK !!!

And I dont meen the kinda pain that the b!tch would be allowed to derive pleasure from... the feckin IMPERFECT CUNNNNY gets absolutly no pleasure from me !

Verbatums Symphony (aka magotts of muzak)


so youre accusing me of fabricating that eh??!!

i couldnt even think that kind of crap up let alone make it up and type it out.....let alone say that in front of a bunch of my "kindred spirits", publicly or even in a private email.......


like i said, that post would not have gone unnoticed here!!

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fayte.m
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posted June 18, 2006 10:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is really creepy.

One of the main reasons alot of us were at KS intitially was because Lotus would not stop jumping us.
And here it is again. Lotus mixed in the mess.

I wonder why.

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Petron
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posted June 18, 2006 10:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i think AG has said several times that site was started over the "what are the rules?" thread.....see above...

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fayte.m
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posted June 18, 2006 10:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No Petron I am NOT saying he did not sy that. But I got tired of preaching at him to tone it down.
If he did say that I agree it is nasty.
Like I said...maybe he changed his post. Maybe I missed that particular one. It did not matter to me anymore because he wouldn't listen to me anyhow.

You took my post out of context here.
The entire thing again is: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/001832-2.html

posted December 07, 2005 01:48 PM
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Magus does get very wound up and brutally blunt and yes..rather crude and rude sounding. I agree with you on that!
BUT....
Consider what insulting verbage he is responding to....
I do not think he means to be so brash...but he is being honest and responding with an eye for an eye. And he does defend in from his heart. It is his way to just say what is on his mind without holding back. Personally I appreciate that. But I do see how it would be a dangerous thing if this was the way everyone acted...especially in response to angry outbursts and stupidity.
Magus...
This is not a good thing for public discourse. It does not make you appear strong and noble except to those who understand you and the motives and heart behind your intensity!
Magus...you will only bring down more outrage to your well meant words...but very blunt..and rashly brash words...

Even you have admitted that you are usually totally unconcerned about restraint in your words and your open expressings of them.

And while we who love and understand you will remain your loyal friends..others will not stop seeing you.. as not a man of pure hearted honor... but a brute and often yes..very charming rogue.

Talk freely yes! But try to hold back on sounding so threatening and vengeful to people who are obviously acting immature and foolish and are going out of their way to yank your chain.

I know there is a chance that you may get upset with me here. I hope you do not..but instead see what I am saying and understand why. But I do not like seeing you bring more anger and chidings upon yourself.

I thank you again Magus.
But this time I have to at least say I see Ra's point of view.
I do not agree with him completely... for I know that your intent and intentions to defend were honorably meant!!!

I would prefer your tongue be sharp...but at certain places and times...with certain folks...and showing your anger and disgust in too raw a fashion undermines the results you may actually be trying to achieve.
Even in your defending..do not go too far because the person making the nasty remarks will just try to outdo you in that arena and it will end up becoming a foul mouthed vile exchange of force of wills and one up manship to bring the other down or put them in their place...
But no one is the victor there my friend.
In the end you both lose. They have their friends...
And You have yours...
And after expending so much energy in the battle of wills...
The only thing that is stronger is the gulf between them and a deeper hatred and disgust of the other.

I am so freaking tired of all this craziness!
I am trying my damndest to be diplomatic...but all over LL. there has been such nonsense going on.
Yes...Magus...I too get angry and lose my tongue too. We both need to learn when the battle is never going to be won and pull back.
Respond with nothing but a thumbs down..or a frown...or whatever icon/smilie...and leave it at that if you can.

Rant over..
!!

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pixelpixie
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posted June 18, 2006 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's just silly.

Perhaps that post would not have gone unoticed here.. perhaps it would've..
But I didn't see it.
Nor do I condone it,
nor do I agree with it!

Why are you arguing that?
Maybe eventually, someone would have seen it, and did a double take.. but the fact is.. I did not see it, nor have my fellow posters.
I am not implying you are fabricating it, as it does sound like Mag's style... I am sorry he said it, but what can I do.
PLease do not imply that those of us who went to that site knew about a single derogatory statement, and are somehow linked to bashing an entire website of people... let alone one knowflake.
Whatever it 'seems', the time you posted it was the first time I saw it.

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TINK
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posted June 18, 2006 10:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Make that people with vendettas and bored, busybody women, huh?"


that's plural, johnny. And salome has every right to have her say. Possibly "eewww" doesn't rank with the threat of a painful butt f*ck, but she is involved.

Petron .. well clearly you don't care what Petron thinks. Lotus - we just won't go there. Me? I'm morally self-righteous. So who are you here for exactly? Whose opinion matters so much? Maybe we could pinpoint the exalted one, confirm their high opinion of you and finally put this puppy to rest?

What do you say?

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lotusheartone
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posted June 18, 2006 10:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Simply..I am here for all of you..to learn and grow. ...

LOve and Respect for ALL..

and believe it or not..alot of learning is happening..just not much that we can SEE..

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Petron
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posted June 18, 2006 11:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thats what i mean.....

you guys have been apologizing for magus' crude behaviour all along.....acting as if this crap is "understandable"..ie..."acceptable".....

why are people blaming me for being the only one to speak out against it??

i can quote more of his filth here if you wish.....why is noone quoting me, other than what i said in the beginning of this thread?

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fayte.m
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posted June 18, 2006 11:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Petron...I can only speak for a few of the folks from KS. What AG's reasons were for starting it I am not sure. But Several of us were indeed there to escape Lotus. And others to just be more playful with each other...again to avoid Lotus jumping them. I think it was just a group of us getting together who got along with each other for sure and just talk about anything without having to worry about Lotus popping up and hijacking threads again...or some others who disagreed with us.

What gets me is I was ok with Pidaua being there.
And I did not mind TINK here at LL. Did not know Jwhop.
Barely know you Petron.


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pixelpixie
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posted June 18, 2006 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Magus is the only one to apologize for that.. I can't apologize on behalf of someone, but I can be sorry that he said things like that, and the ramifications.
I am not excusing it. It's not my place...
Look to his posts if you want to know how he thinks.. I am just going by my interactions.
He is a grown man, how do you suggest I control him? Or be responsible if he decides to emit a loud fart from his fingers toward someone?

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Johnny
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posted June 18, 2006 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Johnny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, I do care what Petron thinks. I overreacted to his "let's have a show of hands for who likes Magus." No, I ain't anywhere near perfect, either, Tink.

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So who are you here for exactly? Whose opinion matters so much? Maybe we could pinpoint the exalted one, confirm their high opinion of you and finally put this puppy to rest?

I only mentioned your moral superiorioty cuz of the rat thing, Tink, and it looks like I didn't understand what you meant with that comment in the first place. I wouldn't have cared, but your opinion does matter to me. I might need to get over that pretty soon, heh.

Otherwise, in answer to your question, just about everyone. I don't expect anyone to have a particulary high opinion of me, but I'd rather - well, we've been over this a hundred times.


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Petron
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posted June 18, 2006 11:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well pixie i notice you dont have your hand up calling magus your "kindred spirit"..... thank you.....


i only had a couple minutes at that site before it was paranoidly flushed down the toilet....and thats the quote i saw.....

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pixelpixie
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posted June 18, 2006 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have nothing against Magus.. not personally.. I think it was in poor and well.. harsher words than 'poor' taste for him to go off like that, and would've let him know.
I post alongside him here, and I interacted with him there...
He was invited to the same place I was, therefore we were both part of the same place. We didn't communicate outside of either place, but he has never been rude to me personally.
I treat everyone with respect. Well... most of the time anyway, unless they prove themselves unworthy, but even then, I'd mostly leave it alone unless picked on.

Like I said.. he can speak for himself. And he has....
As can I.

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TINK
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posted June 18, 2006 11:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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So no Jwhop..I did not think that TINK thing was nice at all. I also do not remember it being that bad. Maybe he changed it. Maybe someone here added to it.

quote:
No Petron I am NOT saying he did not sy that.
If he did say that I agree it is nasty.
Like I said...maybe he changed his post. Maybe I missed that particular one.

I'm confused. Either you saw it or you didn't.

Change your mind about Salome, johnny?

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jwhop
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posted June 18, 2006 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have to get over the idea that I grant touch me not status to anyone, left or right who lies through their teeth Mirandee. I don't and I won't.

I don't give a damn that Bush is a public figure and he won't or can't sue you for your lying slander. Bush isn't aware you're alive and probably would consider it a badge of honor to have you lie about him personally and his record.

I'm talking about a basic rule of fair play, fair comment and knowing the person you're talking to has at least a sliver of honor and integrity. I don't see any of that coming off you, some others here and some who have passed on to greener pastures where they can get high fives for lying about Bush without having their noses rubbed in their lies.

Just keep in the back of your mind that it was your leftist crowd and then you joined that crowd who deliberately decided to take the low road with lying personal attacks on Bush. Remember too I offered real discussion and debate on issues and attempted to warn you and others off that path before I really opened up on you and some others here.

In my book, you got and you're still getting exactly what you deserve. You've earned it, so sit back and enjoy the fruits of your labors.

As for the relationship between Randall, Pid and myself; I don't know what the hell you're talking about Mirandee.

I like what I know about Randall which isn't much, having a very few contacts with Randall over the years and those consisting of emails to forward some information to another member....including some information to Sniper Boy. Other than one 2 minute phone conversation when he ran into a mutual friend I was talking to on the phone. Trust me, neither you or any member past or present were any part of that conversation and it was several years ago.

I like Randall and I respect him and the effort he puts into LindaLand. He's one of the good guys in my book and I like the light hand he uses in riding herd on an unruly bunch. This forum is going to produce heat but Randall lets people have their say, even when it's not what he wants to hear. Whatever views Randall has, one side or the other is going to be opposite what he personally thinks, has to be with the polarized views here. Still, to get banned here, someone has to really be trying hard, not making a political point or defending one and be so far over the line into race, gender or some repugnant area that is totally outside the pale.

So, that too is not fertile ground for you to be plowing Mirandee.

***edit

Mirandee, with those last comments, you're beginning to sound like you and TP are locked in a Vulcan mind meld. Twin minds, now there's a scary...but verrrry funny thought.

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Johnny
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posted June 18, 2006 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Johnny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Change your mind about Salome, johnny?

Subtle.

I'm not even sure what you're talking about, Tink. Who are those quotes from? And why would they cause me to suddenly think that Salome was involved with KS?

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Petron
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posted June 18, 2006 11:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
tink you missed this one....

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That is LESS THAN 0.06% of ALL posts at KS!

I DID READ ALL the posts there!--fayte.m


quote:
Thats just how it worked there- if even one kindred voiced that they didnt feel comfortable with someone being there, and gave reasonable explanation as too why, then it was a no go.--magus

i guess you couldnt find a reasonable explanation eh fayte?

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