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Topic: Looking For A Mod
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aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 9539
From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted June 05, 2014 09:59 AM
  
Randall,
Exactly and that's why it disturbs me that AriesTaurus reacted the way she did. I mean it's a little bit ridiculous when saying something that is true is sexist. IP: Logged |
ariestaurus
Knowflake Posts: 279
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Registered: Feb 2013
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posted June 05, 2014 10:02 AM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
So stating a fact is woman bashing now?
You take every opportunity to say negative stuff about women. Anyone can read through your posts and see that. You're the most predictable person on LL. ANyway, I'm done with you; I'm not going to feed the troll anymore!! (AG response: "wahhh i'm not a troll! Women are evil! Feminism- blah! *misogynistic statements*).
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aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 9539
From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted June 05, 2014 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by Randall:
He didn't bash anyone. He said that women complain about men. Isn't that true? Sure it is. That's both human nature and common knowledge. But there is a double standard, in that when men do the same, they are called sexist. What we should be doing in this Forum is trying to understand one another, instead of resorting to labeling. If it's not right for men to do it, then it's not right for women either. Equality is equality. Both genders are of equal worth.
Exactly. Straight women will complain about men, straight men will complain about women, lesbians will complain about other women,and gay men will complain about other men.. I have seen it all.IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 9539
From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted June 05, 2014 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by ariestaurus:
You take every opportunity to say negative stuff about women. Anyone can read through your posts and see that. You're the most predictable person on LL.ANyway, I'm done with you; I'm not going to feed the troll anymore!! (AG response: "wahhh i'm not a troll! Women are evil! Feminism- blah! *misogynistic statements*).
You don't know what you are talking about. When I first came to Lindaland I responded to a "nice guy" bashing thread and I was land blasted for giving my opinion. As far as I can remember I was the only guy in that thread and I thought my opinion might be valued since I am a guy. Boy was I wrong... I didn't say anything rude or hateful and I was jumped upon immediately and called a misogynist.. IP: Logged |
Randall
Webmaster Posts: 41415
From: Saturn next to Charmainec
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 05, 2014 10:09 AM
And bisexual people will complain about both!But to be fair, complaining about romance can be a good thing. People need to get things out. And people need to be listened to. Listening is a lost art. And when people find a good match, they say positive things about them and want to share their happiness with others. Case in point, DF and Barb. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 55392
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 05, 2014 10:13 AM
People need to get things out. And people need to be listened to. Listening is a lost art.Exactly. You grow and change from being real, having people listen and having people LOVE you back to health, not demean you. That doesn't help anyone. ------------------
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Randall
Webmaster Posts: 41415
From: Saturn next to Charmainec
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 05, 2014 10:16 AM
I've never had such a tough time finding a Mod before.IP: Logged |
ariestaurus
Knowflake Posts: 279
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Registered: Feb 2013
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posted June 05, 2014 10:20 AM
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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
Girrrrlll, where have you been? Waiting for you to drop some Sag humor in. Don't be bringing logic and reasoning into this! 
Logic?!! I wouldn't dare!!! P.S. Hiii! IP: Logged |
Faith
Knowflake Posts: 7566
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Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 05, 2014 10:27 AM
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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
Girrrrlll, where have you been? Waiting for you to drop some Sag humor in. Don't be bringing logic and reasoning into this!
 OMG THAT IS FUNNY!!! IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 9539
From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted June 05, 2014 10:28 AM
I just want to take this opportunity to point out that others started this argument, namely faith. And when I said something in response to that Ariestaurus jumped on me. And when I responded to her I was accused of being a troll.. Now how exactly does that work? I just find it odd that a lot of forum members view me as a pot stirrer or trouble maker when they find reasons to jump on me. TBH I have resolved to never make a thread in Sweetpeas again but I bet people will still find fault with anything I say and want to jump on me.IP: Logged |
Faith
Knowflake Posts: 7566
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posted June 05, 2014 10:31 AM
My point was that AG is widely perceived as being sexist.Even if some people here want to defend his positions, the fact will remain that most people will continue interpreting his posts as being misogynistic. There is a continuum at play, you see? It's not like his views will suddenly make sense to everyone and stop being at the heart of so many uprisings here. Only, if he is a mod, those uprisings will be worse and contain more resentment, and it will be directed at Randall, ie "How could you make him a mod here? What kind of person would do that?"  IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 55392
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 05, 2014 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I just want to take this opportunity to point out that others started this argument, namely faith. And when I said something in response to that Ariestaurus jumped on me. And when I responded to her I was accused of being a troll.. Now how exactly does that work? I just find it odd that a lot of forum members view me as a pot stirrer or trouble maker when they find reasons to jump on me. TBH I have resolved to never make a thread in Sweetpeas again but I bet people will still find fault with anything I say and want to jump on me.
It is gaslighting. It happens to me, too. People attack me and when I respond back, they say I am starting fights. That is why ignoring is sooo powerful. If I could say the biggest lesson I ever learned on LL was to ignore. If people want to start a fight, they can't if you don't engage  ------------------
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Faith
Knowflake Posts: 7566
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Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 05, 2014 10:33 AM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I just want to take this opportunity to point out that others started this argument, namely faith.
I didn't mean it as a fight. I said you are perceived as being sexist. You are perceived as being sexist. If we are exploring your credentials as a mod, that's going to be the first thing that comes to mind for most of the regulars here. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 9539
From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted June 05, 2014 10:34 AM
^you assume I'm a sexist , Therefore you are the sexist because you have negative views about a man.  IP: Logged |
Faith
Knowflake Posts: 7566
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Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 05, 2014 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
It is gaslighting.
No it wasn't. I even complimented him ("He's calm most of the time and we all appreciate that") to take the edge off the itty bitty critical part. I didn't even call him sexist (not here..I have said it in the past....but I would like to give him a clean slate as much as anyone.) IP: Logged |
Faith
Knowflake Posts: 7566
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Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 05, 2014 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
^you assume I'm a sexist , Therefore you are the sexist because you have negative views of a man.
Please read what I said to Ami. IP: Logged |
Randall
Webmaster Posts: 41415
From: Saturn next to Charmainec
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 05, 2014 10:43 AM
Isn't sexism thinking that one gender is better than another? I think that we all agree that women and men are of equal worth and deserving of mutual respect, admiration, and understanding.IP: Logged |
Faith
Knowflake Posts: 7566
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Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 05, 2014 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by Randall:
I've never had such a tough time finding a Mod before.
How about Xodian? ETA: Oh wait...crikey, I forgot...there was some fight between him and AG. Well if you are looking for a male moderator, he's a Libra and gets along with mostly everyone (aside from AG I guess.) IP: Logged |
Faith
Knowflake Posts: 7566
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Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 05, 2014 10:50 AM
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Originally posted by Randall:
Isn't sexism thinking that one gender is better than another? I think that we all agree that women and men are of equal worth and deserving of mutual respect, admiration, and understanding.
It's one thing to say that, and it's another thing to grasp it and be able to recognize where the line changes over from someone merely complaining about the other sex, to sounding bigoted/hateful, triggering sensitivities, possibly pouring salt in old, gender-related wounds. General comment not intended as criticism to anyone. Both women and men are capable of this and have been guilty of it. IP: Logged |
charmainec
Moderator Posts: 8417
From: Venus next to Randall
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 05, 2014 10:56 AM
Here's some of the things I used to say on LL about men:Men are jerks
Men are idiots
Blah blah and some worse things. Yes, it was venting (and sexist) yet!
No one called me a sexist for those remarks..  not even the guys complained. :/ Maybe it's a double standard ..
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Doux Rêve
Moderator Posts: 8282
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Registered: Dec 2010
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posted June 05, 2014 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by charmainec:
Maybe it's a double standard ..
I think so. I have sexist tendencies, myself. I just choose not to express them. AG does, openly. And because it's directed at women, it's seen as more offensive/sexist. But it isn't necessarily. quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
He didn't bash anyone. He said that women complain about men. Isn't that true? Sure it is. That's both human nature and common knowledge. But there is a double standard, in that when men do the same, they are called sexist. What we should be doing in this Forum is trying to understand one another, instead of resorting to labeling. If it's not right for men to do it, then it's not right for women either. Equality is equality. Both genders are of equal worth.
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Ceridwen
Moderator Posts: 13095
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Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 05, 2014 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by Randall:
I don't see how anyone can refute what you just posted, AG. But that doesn't mean women will agree.
Now if that wasn`t sexist now.
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I have no opinion on sexist or not. I don`t know either of you good enough to conclude this. But I noticed a tendency (of several people) to become very generalistic in their writing.
I don´t know if people do that because they really believe this to be true or just because they want to bring a certain point across and sort of "drill it in".
Personally I view those generalistic statements (no matter by whom) as much too simplistic.
But those generalistic statements pertaining to a certain gender, is that already being a sexist?
I honestly don`t know. Maybe it is, and i just don´t know, because I sort of don`t remember the conventional definition of sexism.
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Padre35
Knowflake Posts: 3704
From: Asheville, NC, US
Registered: Jul 2012
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posted June 05, 2014 11:12 AM
Issue is, some good candidates are already lightening rods here, and other good candidates do not want to become lightening rods by modding SP's IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 9539
From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted June 05, 2014 11:13 AM
There is definitely a double standard at play. Case and point: when guys complain about being put in the friendzone they are hated for it and called misogynists... But what most people fail to realize is women do something that is almost exactly the same thing, the only difference is these women don't have angry blogs written about them by feminists.. Alot of women get angry about being put in the sex zone, like men get angry when they are put in the friendzone. Women don't officially call it the sex zone but that's what i'm referring to it as to illustrate a point. Countless women complain that the guy they are seeing wont commit to them because he only wants sex.. So they try to get the men to commit to them by continuing to spend time with them and have sex with them.... But when their attempts fail they get bitter and rail against him and men in general.. From where I am standing this is no different then what "nice guys" do... Both parties want a relationship and commitment and try to facilitate those things and get upset when it doesn't happen..the women get sympathy but the "nice guys" get called: misogynists, manipulative, babies etc. and all sorts of nasty names.IP: Logged |
MoonWitch
Moderator Posts: 1703
From: The Beach
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 05, 2014 11:16 AM
If someone can't see the difference between:
"Ugh... I'm mad at my girlfriend today because she played video games all day and I wanted to go out to dinner."
and "My ex is such a beeyotch because she slept with my best friend" and "Women like to be treated like crap and they all lie about everything." Then there's no point in continuing the conversation IP: Logged |
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