posted June 05, 2014 01:00 PM            

Bwahahahahahaha!!!
Kidding!

posted June 05, 2014 01:18 PM            

I don't like to see anyone get singled out and ragged on, whether I agree with their ideology or not. And if there's a new mod in here who already has existing issues with another member, I think that would be a bad idea.

I'm not really thinking specifically of any one person here, but I do think that's important.

Obviously, we all have friends here, and that's part of what makes it really awesome. Equally obvious is the fact that we don't all agree on everything.

But it would have to be someone who isn't so attached to their friendships that they would take sides in an argument based on that, or someone who has such animosity against another member that they would side against them in an argument for the same reasons, etc.

If that makes any sense.

posted June 05, 2014 01:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
I do have a private Forum already created. It used to be the Basic Astrology Forum, which was created from the Mod Forum. It's invisible. If a convincing argument is made for it, I will test the idea of a Forum for mediating disputes respectfully (no outright viciousness). But I can't see it being a good idea. I've been wrong before, though, so I'm open to the discussion of it.

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I think it could work with some VERY strict rules and consequences. Such as something like...
Copy/paste of content into any public area of LL will result in a 30 day ban. Unless keeping track of bans is too much. or if you'd even use temporary bans.

posted June 05, 2014 01:41 PM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Oh...
Not having read through every post, I submit a nomination for teasel

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Thank you, but I couldn't handle it.

posted June 05, 2014 01:43 PM            

It happens at work all the time.
We may choose people we think are good and are not or visa versa.

I think finding that magic ratio is good. Too many mods and there are higher chances for mods to disagree about how to handle things, not that it won't happen.
Too few... And things go too far before any mod sees it.

posted June 05, 2014 01:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Do we really, really need a Mod here, though?
I'm not sure it would change things much.

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^ THIS

I don't see how even the best, fairest, impartialest mod in the world could resolve the existing problems or reduce their impact.

For me, creating a new rule that anyone who disrespects a mod will be banned (did I understand that correctly?) is also a draconian measure, especially when it seems that the comments aren't always carefully read, but often judged on a bias, with preconceptions in mind. A few times now when I've given a mild comment I have been rebuked. It shouldn't happen that way.

Mods need to demonstrate awareness and sensitivity. Antennae up and functioning. Especially here.

If they learn to see mildness and small gestures of peace, they will bring more mildness into this forum. LOOK for that olive branch and protect it.

Lonake and I just patched things up a few days ago, in this manner...it takes small steps and zero interference from people who would rather "jump the gun."

So again, my position on modship, considering all the tensions people are working out amongst each other, is that it takes a lot of attentiveness to the words, their tone, and the general dynamics to be able to gauge which way the wind is blowing, when two people are talking out their problems. And so, when it comes to modship, any flippant, careless, or antagonistic interference is really an insult to the spirit of the community at large. It will create rebellion, and moreso if the legitimacy of that protest is ignored. If someone is banned for disrespecting a mod who is not behaving respectably, we've got worse problems than we have now.

posted June 05, 2014 02:01 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Sorry for having a hand in disrupting this thread.. Now back to the regularly scheduled program after these commercials....

m.youtube.com/watch?v=NgWn7zbgxZ4

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W...T....F????

posted June 05, 2014 02:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Do we really, really need a Mod here, though?
I'm not sure it would change things much.

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posted June 05, 2014 02:10 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Sorry for having a hand in disrupting this thread.. Now back to the regularly scheduled program after these commercials....

m.youtube.com/watch?v=NgWn7zbgxZ4

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I'll be posting this vid to my Facebook later today.

posted June 05, 2014 02:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Do we really, really need a Mod here, though?
I'm not sure it would change things much.

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Originally posted by Lexxigramer:
Maybe I will be resigning from this forum.
Not sure yet.
The past days here have been a Hell I do not want to deal with again.
9 years of hatred from one; plus her ilk;
well it will not end no matter what I do.
So I may be resigning from this forum.
My hands are tied here and my voice censored,
I will wait and see if things improve;
but so far see my friends still getting treated badly and rudeness encouraged.
So at the moment not sure what I will do.
Just going to watch and wait for now.

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posted June 05, 2014 02:14 PM            

It really is quite heated in here, often (especially lately for some reason).

I just don't know how another Mod could improve things.

Maybe we all just need to relax and take a chill pill and let it go. Ignore rather than fight, since the fights don't seem to go anywhere anyway.

Personal issues between members should be discussed privately, perhaps?

posted June 05, 2014 02:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
^ THIS

I don't see how even the best, fairest, impartialest mod in the world could resolve the existing problems or reduce their impact.

For me, creating a new rule that anyone who disrespects a mod will be banned (did I understand that correctly?) is also a draconian measure, especially when it seems that the comments aren't always carefully read, but often judged on a bias, with preconceptions in mind. A few times now when I've given a mild comment I have been rebuked. It shouldn't happen that way.

Mods need to demonstrate awareness and sensitivity. Antennae up and functioning. Especially here.

If they learn to [b]see mildness and small gestures of peace, they will bring more mildness into this forum. LOOK for that olive branch and protect it.

Lonake and I just patched things up a few days ago, in this manner...it takes small steps and zero interference from people who would rather "jump the gun."

So again, my position on modship, considering all the tensions people are working out amongst each other, is that it takes a lot of attentiveness to the words, their tone, and the general dynamics to be able to gauge which way the wind is blowing, when two people are talking out their problems. And so, when it comes to modship, any flippant, careless, or antagonistic interference is really an insult to the spirit of the community at large. It will create rebellion, and moreso if the legitimacy of that protest is ignored. If someone is banned for disrespecting a mod who is not behaving respectably, we've got worse problems than we have now.

This is a positional statement and not intended as an accusation towards anyone. Just commenting on forum dynamics. [/B]

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posted June 05, 2014 02:43 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
This is another reason I wouldn't want to be a mod. I can be pretty good at mediating, but I think that most people can sort things out for themselves, if defensive walls are allowed to come down. I wouldn't want to meddle in somebody else's business, unless I was specifically asked (and even then, I don't like being caught in the middle).

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Actually I think all the reasons you listed show why you would be a good mod. But I know what you mean, things do get crazy in here and you are perfectly understood, turning down the offer/request.

posted June 05, 2014 03:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Lexxigramer:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
[b]Do we really, really need a Mod here, though?
I'm not sure it would change things much.

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posted June 05, 2014 03:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Lexxigramer:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
[b]Do we really, really need a Mod here, though?
I'm not sure it would change things much.

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NOOOOO! Don't leave! We need your sensitivity, kindness and awareness in this thread.

posted June 05, 2014 05:05 PM            

Odette... can't believe I forgot her. Her patience in debates is really needed if we want a mediator mod here.

posted June 05, 2014 05:28 PM            

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Originally posted by meissieri:
I would like to see teasel as a mod, I think she's very good at being involved and while she has a side she's leaning towards, it doesn't take away from being fair and seeing the other side. Same with Mercurian Intellect (yeah, mention again). But I respect them not wanting to/thinking they can't handle it.

Odette... can't believe I forgot her. Her patience in debates is really needed if we want a mediator mod here.

And I want to vote for 7thguardian too.

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