posted June 05, 2014 11:17 AM            

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Originally posted by MoonWitch:
If someone can't see the difference between:

"Ugh... I'm mad at my girlfriend today because she played video games all day and I wanted to go out to dinner."

and

"My ex is such a beeyotch because she slept with my best friend"

and

"Women like to be treated like crap and they all lie about everything."

Then there's no point in continuing the conversation

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posted June 05, 2014 11:23 AM            

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Originally posted by MoonWitch:
If someone can't see the difference between:

"Ugh... I'm mad at my girlfriend today because she played video games all day and I wanted to go out to dinner."

and

"My ex is such a beeyotch because she slept with my best friend"

and

"Women like to be treated like crap and they all lie about everything."

Then there's no point in continuing the conversation

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posted June 05, 2014 11:24 AM            

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posted June 05, 2014 11:27 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by MoonWitch:
[b]If someone can't see the difference between:

"Ugh... I'm mad at my girlfriend today because she played video games all day and I wanted to go out to dinner."

and

"My ex is such a beeyotch because she slept with my best friend"

and

"Women like to be treated like crap and they all lie about everything."

Then there's no point in continuing the conversation

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Well, the women who say this are just as generalizing as men who say something that begins like "(all) women are..." whatever.

posted June 05, 2014 11:31 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
There is definitely a double standard at play. Case and point: when guys complain about being put in the friendzone they are hated for it and called misogynists... But what most people fail to realize is women do something that is almost exactly the same thing, the only difference is these women don't have angry blogs written about them by feminists.. Alot of women get angry about being put in the sex zone, like men get angry when they are put in the friendzone. Women don't officially call it the sex zone but that's what i'm referring to it as to illustrate a point. Countless women complain that the guy they are seeing wont commit to them because he only wants sex.. So they try to get the men to commit to them by continuing to spend time with them and have sex with them.... But when their attempts fail they get bitter and rail against him and men in general.. From where I am standing this is no different then what "nice guys" do... Both parties want a relationship and commitment and try to facilitate those things and get upset when it doesn't happen..the women get sympathy but the "nice guys" get called: misogynists, manipulative, babies etc. and all sorts of nasty names.

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But you classify ALL feminists that way. You blame feminism for a lot of things, just like the misogynists I've dealt with elsewhere.

I don't know you very well, so I won't continue with this. But feminism exists because women had no personal rights in the past - we were bought and sold, weren't to be educated (unless we had money), weren't allowed to vote, or hold any sort of opinion at all. We were considered to be nothing except baby machines, and maids.

"Nice guys" are usually the worst - thinking they're entitled to a woman, no matter what.

posted June 05, 2014 11:33 AM            

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Originally posted by MoonWitch:
If someone can't see the difference between:

"Ugh... I'm mad at my girlfriend today because she played video games all day and I wanted to go out to dinner."

and

"My ex is such a beeyotch because she slept with my best friend"

and

"Women like to be treated like crap and they all lie about everything."

Then there's no point in continuing the conversation

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Exactly.

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Originally posted by MoonWitch:
Though, I do admit, I have tried to give pep talks to people that are negative against the opposite sex because maybe it's just a bad day or what have you. I suppose everyone feels like that at some point when they've been wronged. The key is go move on and realize not all of any group of people are one thing.

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posted June 05, 2014 11:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
See, AG can hold his own here. Mod material

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posted June 05, 2014 11:36 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
or as one L.L member once put it "men have done nothing but rape and murder since the beginning of time"......

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posted June 05, 2014 11:38 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
You are trying to compare watermelons to baseballs with your examples. It goes both ways.

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
All I know is I see atleast one woman posting negative statuses about their boyfriend or Ex everytime I log into facebook. And I read the comments and nobody calls them a misandrist or negative and the funny thing is the guys commenting are never mad!

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This quote is where my examples came from. A woman on her Facebook about her boyfriend is very different than someone bashing all men.

If I saw one of my friends feeling bad because her boyfriend just cheated on her or what have you, I'd assure her that not all men are like that. Invariably, she'd realize that after some time. The problem is if someone never realizes that.

I think it's also a problem when someone excuses their own bad behavior by pointing at someone else and saying "But that person does the same thing!"

I don't want to hi-jack the mod thread so I apologize. I'll drop this subject until next time it comes up in another thread... probably in a day or two.

I do want to say that I think AG would be / could be / maybe is a good mod in another forum. I don't think I visit his other mod forums very often.

Another thing that I think should be considered is his friendship / alliance with Ami.

... and Ami has shown me some kindness lately so I'm not saying this to be some big thorn in anyone's side and I'm not trying to be mean to anyone or mess up good vibes or anything.

I just feel like it'll bring a lot of imbalance in a forum that is already teetering like Courtney Stodden in an earthquake.

posted June 05, 2014 11:39 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
But you classify ALL feminists that way. You blame feminism for a lot of things, just like the misogynists I've dealt with elsewhere.

I don't know you very well, so I won't continue with this. But feminism exists because women had no personal rights in the past - we were bought and sold, weren't to be educated (unless we had money), weren't allowed to vote, or hold any sort of opinion at all. We were considered to be nothing except baby machines, and maids.

"Nice guys" are usually the worst - thinking they're entitled to a woman, no matter what.

Argh, I can't believe I'm responding here, too! I have things to do.

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posted June 05, 2014 11:41 AM            

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Originally posted by MoonWitch:

This quote is where my examples came from. A woman on her Facebook about her boyfriend is very different than someone bashing all men.

If I saw one of my friends feeling bad because her boyfriend just cheated on her or what have you, I'd assure her that not all men are like that. Invariably, she'd realize that after some time. The problem is if someone never realizes that.

I think it's also a problem when someone excuses their own bad behavior by pointing at someone else and saying "But that person does the same thing!"

I don't want to hi-jack the mod thread so I apologize. I'll drop this subject until next time it comes up in another thread... probably in a day or two.

I do want to say that I think AG would be / could be / maybe is a good mod in another forum. I don't think I visit his other mod forums very often.

Another thing that I think should be considered is his friendship / alliance with Ami.

... and Ami has shown me some kindness lately so I'm not saying this to be some big thorn in anyone's side and I'm not trying to be mean to anyone or mess up good vibes or anything.

I just feel like it'll bring a lot of imbalance in a forum that is already teetering like Courtney Stodden in an earthquake.

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posted June 05, 2014 11:45 AM            

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Originally posted by MoonWitch:

This quote is where my examples came from. A woman on her Facebook about her boyfriend is very different than someone bashing all men.

If I saw one of my friends feeling bad because her boyfriend just cheated on her or what have you, I'd assure her that not all men are like that. Invariably, she'd realize that after some time. The problem is if someone never realizes that.

I think it's also a problem when someone excuses their own bad behavior by pointing at someone else and saying "But that person does the same thing!"

I don't want to hi-jack the mod thread so I apologize. I'll drop this subject until next time it comes up in another thread... probably in a day or two.

I do want to say that I think AG would be / could be / maybe is a good mod in another forum. I don't think I visit his other mod forums very often.

Another thing that I think should be considered is his friendship / alliance with Ami.

... and Ami has shown me some kindness lately so I'm not saying this to be some big thorn in anyone's side and I'm not trying to be mean to anyone or mess up good vibes or anything.

I just feel like it'll bring a lot of imbalance in a forum that is already teetering like Courtney Stodden in an earthquake.

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posted June 05, 2014 12:03 PM            

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posted June 05, 2014 12:18 PM            

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posted June 05, 2014 12:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Yin:
Another one I would like to see more of here is 7thGuardian. S(he) is pretty insightful, clever and mature.

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posted June 05, 2014 12:43 PM            

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Originally posted by meissieri:
Faith, just wanted to say I got the address and sent you something this morning.

You were so urgent about it, I did it as soon as I could.

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posted June 05, 2014 12:46 PM            

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Originally posted by MoonWitch:
If someone can't see the difference between:

"Ugh... I'm mad at my girlfriend today because she played video games all day and I wanted to go out to dinner."

and

"My ex is such a beeyotch because she slept with my best friend"

and

"Women like to be treated like crap and they all lie about everything."

Then there's no point in continuing the conversation

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MoonWitch for mod!!!

Ceri, I love what you wrote, too...my thoughts exactly, honestly.

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ETA: Catching up on the thread...so happy to see teasel speaking her mind. Good point!

@Yin:

I love Juni, too, but I'm pretty sure all the aggravations here just weren't worth it for her. Hope she comes back eventually.

posted June 05, 2014 12:51 PM            

In other news, the turn of this thread... I mean... *sigh.