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celticfyre
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posted August 18, 2006 01:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks for the info...i think it was the puter at work. I will be seeing my crab tonite for station business we will see what transpires if anything. and I will post more details when I have time to let uou know. Please send whatever positive vibes our way cuz this is getting very discouraging. Love to you all

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Dulce Luna
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posted August 18, 2006 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sending you lots of light

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cancerrg
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posted August 19, 2006 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cancerrg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just wishing you the best !!!!!!

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ms_scorpio
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posted August 24, 2006 09:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sending you lots of positive vibes.

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cancerrg
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posted September 04, 2006 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cancerrg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
how is the gang !

how about you celtic ?

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celticfyre
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posted September 05, 2006 11:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey RG! I am existing right now, my Crab is now withdrawn from me , essentially due circumstances beyond my control between gossip at the firestation and his ex-wife threatening to take him to court again for change in custody agreement for his daughter and other things that take precident over me. I have little hope at this point--- he has not even wanted to discuss anything with me. which is not fair, he's not the only one with something at stake not the only one with feelings...I happen to be dying on the inside and he"doesn't feel up to talking at this point" so I am at a loss.

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Dulce Luna
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posted September 06, 2006 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have to go drop of my brother and then go to school but I'll say aout two or three lines right now. Well first off, I completely agree with you. He should discuss these things with you and such. It really isn't fair because he isn't the only one in the relationship. I wonder if this could be partly because of his venus in gemini because I don't think gemini is "togethery" placement for venus. (and before anyone jumps down my throat, I have venus in gemini).


I'll be back later

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celticfyre
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posted September 06, 2006 02:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Dulce!

and Fayte if you are out there would love your take on things (and anyone else)and if you guys want more details I can supply them-- Just very painful to write about it in free form right now.

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cancerrg
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posted September 07, 2006 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cancerrg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh dream woman !
i can understand .
if u dont eel hurt in recounting your experiece , i would be glad to know .

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Dulce Luna
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posted September 07, 2006 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sending you lots of love and light

Maybe today's eclipse will bring thing out that need to be brought out between you and your crab

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celticfyre
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posted September 08, 2006 10:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, I gonna try to bring the latest events into a nutshell. All started at our intallation banquet where the both of us got drunk. He for the first time in a long while and me for the first time where I could actually consider myself drunk. Now remember he wanted to keep our private realtionship SEPARATE from the firehouse..however I was needing a better definition of what that means so I would feel more secure. Anyway, once everybody got drunk we all started hanging all over each other but that was everybody not just he and I. And he and I weren't doing anything more than arms around each other or sitting in each others lap, but that is no different than anybody else. Well, his 20 year old daughter was going to be the designated driver for him and i had not planned on drinking that much that I couldn't drive home so I made no arrangement so I asked her could she drive me home (before i had gotten worse..she asked where I lived but she wasn't sure where I was talking about so I asked if I could stay at their house then she said sure --i had only the intention of crashing on the couch nothing sordid nothing more than that expected. Some time later someone( i have no idea who) decided to pull him away from the fun and get him home. I must point out that he and I were NEVER alone together we were always in a group of 3 or more. Well when they pulled him away for his daughter to drive him home I realized that there went my ride and I told soemone that I was supposed to go with them. Well, somehow the gossip got back to him after all was said and done and since he couldn't remember he didn't know the difference that I announced to everybody that I was going home to sleep with him and that people had to pull him away from me and I was beign forceful to make sure that happened...nothing could be further form the truth. I was drunk and dizzy and unable to drive however I was not unaware of things going on and I remembered everything. Well he was upset that he seemed to get this reputation of haveing several women hangin all over him , but he was hanging too mind you and he was upset that something he wanted separate became part of the firehouse and that he had to get control of the rumors and he wanted us to cool things for now especally at the firehouse. there of course had been gossip that has gotten back to him that i have nothing to do with just people who have nothing better to do until i started asking no one said anything to me about it but he seemed to know all about it.. i felt horrible and wanted to talk to him about it and he sent me this really unkind e-mail with a tone that he didn't feel like talking right now and he was upset that I was never more than 4 feet away form him one night at the fair and I was staring and glaring and making puppy dog eyes at him and it made him really unconfortable and he said that he's told me before that it does (sorry I'm a Scorpio we are good a that)BUT that episode occured because I WAS HURTING and wanted to talk to him-- looking for an opportunity and I was being COMPLETELY ignored for about a week. One day he's talking to me the next day after me wanting to talk he's ignoring me completely. Tell me I wasn't crushed even further. Finally, I couldn't stand it I broke my silence with a mutual friend because she knew something was bothering me and I wouldn't say at first because he asked me not to say anything as i agreed our business was outr business....I have said before other people put their noses in our business and we have problems apparently. So she told me that there were other things going on in his life that I knew about and there were station things (alot) that he had become involved in that were overwhelming him and he had told her that he had become overly sensitive. Notice he tells her all this but won't talk to me..one of the things I was upset about...he and I still have not talked about our private stuff and of course she agrees that he is treating me unfairly and things he tells her he should be telling me..but i am pushed off to the side discarded and feeling like a criminal on death row with no benefit of trial. We have however reached a truce of sorts as far as being at the station and functioning on a professional level which I hope is a good thing. On one hand I am left feeling like he doesn't care bout me or my feelings on the other maybe perhaps he really does and the fact that he does scare him so he pushes me away...I dont' know. It's all so damn stupid when you step away from it and look at it.. and I have done nothing wrong. I am mad about the way I have been treated and if I ever get the opportunity I will tell him so, but it doens't change the way I feel about him I still love him. But I also feel it will take time for him to be receptive to it...I mean I am starting to see a few signs of him poking his head out again. however small and insignificant they are. So that is where things are..just dang stupid in my opinion Sorry the nutshell turned into a coconut

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Dulce Luna
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posted September 08, 2006 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think more than anything, this guy needs to relax. I mean seriously chill....this is his cancer/virgo combo in effect. (cancer sun virgo mooner here BTW ). Thats good that he's popping out now but I agree that you should be firm with him this time around. Let him know how you felt about this.

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celticfyre
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posted September 08, 2006 11:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh I will tell him...but it is probably good for the both of us have this period of time, because as upset as I am/was I probably would blast him so badly that I would cause irrepuable(sp?)harm and send him away from me for good. I kinda sense from him that we are not done for good becaue he hasn't told me anything specific and anything that he has told me has left an opening or ambiguity not good in some sense good in another. His Taurus moon though makes him pragmatic and stubborn about things...and fortuantely my libra/pisces moon combo keeps the Scorpion in check most of the time otherwise I would be exploding all over the place..lol.

So the question is now how to proceed. I beleive Fayte when she says PATIENCE and that it can be a challenge with most Cancers and we have made so much progress before that I feel this take 2 steps forward and one step back dance we are doing is not unusual.

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Tigerlily
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posted September 08, 2006 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tigerlily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I bet if you start ignoring him he'll come running back.

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sue g
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posted September 08, 2006 01:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WOW!

I just spent a week with my 80 year old father and had to exercise loads of PATIENCE...

But...

Am not sure I could do the same with my partner.....

I take my hat off to you girl, really I do....

Its something to be patient with an elderly difficult parent or a small child, but with a man who I want to be in this kind of relationship with, I would hope for more co-operation and consideration...

Good luck !!

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celticfyre
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posted September 08, 2006 01:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sue I know what you are saying...
Like I have said before there is something else there that I can't put my finger on...it still isn't played out yet for what ever reason and I cannot abandon him at this point. It would somehow be wrong...the wrong move the worng direction the worng path...soemthing. I know its there ,he doesn't yet or if he does he's frightened and overwhlemed by it so i have to foster it along somehow.

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sue g
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posted September 08, 2006 02:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are some amazing woman!!!

I pray he will appreciate you, care for you and give you the love and respect you deserve....

Bless you.....

p.s. I can hear my mother (god rest her soul) saying "these men dont know they are born"....bless her

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celticfyre
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posted September 08, 2006 02:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
See he really is a wonderful amazing man, he just doesn't realize it in fact he's very humble to the point, I know he doesn't feel he deserves to good things that do come his way. He needs to evolve to that point and it is not because he doesn't desire it because I know he does he just has to find his way there..although all I can do is open or unlock the door he has to be the one to walk though (even though I would like to shove him though it)he has to go on his own.

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celticfyre
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posted September 10, 2006 11:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the compliment Sue, makes me feels less of a fool. I dunno, a fool for love perhaps. I'm in one of those valleys today about myself.

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Isolaede
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posted September 21, 2006 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isolaede     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*HUGE HUGS* Celtic, we love you dearly. Please know that.

Your crab is all up in a ruffle over nothing short of a misunderstanding. If I were you, I’d send him a short, honest e-mail explaining the truth. Try to keep emotions out of it. Tell him he misunderstood the situation, explain what you really did, and then apologize for not being as tactful as perhaps you should have been. You had NO desire to start rumors, you just spoke to one person without perhaps thinking that word might get around. There’s nothing wrong with that. You were drunk, and had no malicious intentions. At the same time, his behavior is also unacceptable. Refusing to talk about something that hurt you both is not healthy or adult. I’d tell him that too. Tell him you care about him a great deal, and would not see him saddened but this enforced silence is doing nothing but hurting you both. That kind of sensible admonition will hopefully snap him out of his dark brooding crab shell and slap some sense into his silly brain.

I respect your crabs desire to keep business and personal matters separate. It’s VERY hard to work with a significant other. It’s even harder to be in a superior role dating someone that works under you (if I understand your job and his role). I don’t think I’d ever do it – I’d be too concerned about the ethics of it, and about getting fired. I’m inclined to think it might be better for both of you if you took another shift. It might be worth asking him if he feels that would be easier and if it would enable him to embrace your relationship more. I actually think that would be a good test.

Honestly, at this point, I'm not sure about your Cancer, Celtic. It's hard for me to continue reading off of the negative things he does to you, and still have faith that he's worthy of your love. I truly hate to be negative – I know how much you love this man, and I don’t want to splatter that love with large blue rain drops of discouragement. However, as a friend (albeit an online one), I think I’d be doing you a disservice if I wasn’t completely honest with you. As a Cancer, I have a hard time imagining any situation that would lead me to treat someone I cared about the way your crab treats you. He seems far more on again off again that a normal cancer would be in love. He's working his hardest to keep you at arms distance, he doesn't want to open up his life and share it with you. And even worse, he seems embarrassed about your relationship. I can't help but wonder why? If it’s just the work situation, then I’m semi-ok with it (I think he’s handling it all VERY poorly notably, but I can understand the work concerns). But I’m really starting to wonder if it’s just that. Thus, bringing up the possibility of you changing roles might be an interesting test even if you have no intention of actually doing it.

Sending lots of love and care your way...

Isolaede

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sue g
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posted September 21, 2006 05:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are welcome Celtic.....

Aaaahhh....I bet as soon as you let go of him just a little, he will come scurrying back to you!!!

Love and trust


Sue xx

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celticfyre
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posted September 21, 2006 08:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isolaede and Sue :::HUGS::: to the both of you. the rumor mongers here at our station have been working way over time to the point of being ridiculous I can't even tell you. It's so high school if fact it's worse than that...I am so above it that it pi**es me off to no end. But anyway you all give good advice. I know at the root of his issues is his ex-wife for a number of reasons the least of which he loathes her to find out ANYinformation that she could use against him to the point he is afraid to make a life for himself. I may have to let him go, but for now I am just backing away. I am so unhappy in the other aspects of my life right now I have nothing to set a balance and it upsets me to no end. I have never felt this low truly...the stupid thing is the right thing from the right people could turn it around. But I can't depend on other people for my happiness,but right now I can't even depend on myself and I use to be able to do that. Maybe I'm truly depressed, or overworked or over wrought or something. Thank you all for your kindness and good thoughts I will keep you up to date...I know I will come out of this on the other side but I have no idea of when. But for now call me the Gray Lizard, becausue right now the Eagle has hung up her wings.

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sthenri
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Wow Celtic, you are really letting others walk all over you at work and I can relate to that this week. The rumour mills do work all the time only you don't hear them aim at you every day. Leaving your happiness up to others is always a BAD idea.

You could try and generate some ideas on what to do, read Dealing with Difficult People, I got it at borders.

Or you can attack the rumour mill by going up to the gossipy person (there's always one) who starts things and making friends. It can't be ignored and gossipy people are always vain and superficial people too so put on the flattery, act humble.

Ask flat out if there is silence if there is anything that person wants to ask you as you are doing the right thing as always. If the other person disputes caring then say then let's hang out today for lunch if you truly don't feel that way? Put the ball in that person's court like THAT.

Make sure someone else sees so you are not the bad one. A smart rumour mill person will want to look good and then it stops and rumours start about someone else.

Truly forget about this man at work and try to concetrate on building alliances with those who matter, those who control the emotionals at work, usually those who are there the longest.

Even though it's unprofessional it's the way things get done in the workplace and you can't bring your personal feelings to work, that means no socializing, drinking or anything like that EVEN IF EVERYONE ELSE IS! You have to be above all that all the time because you are young and a target of gossip more often.

Don't let the Cancer sit in your head at work, make a vow to think of him after 5pm, or when you quit work.

Your co-workers, no matter how nasty, or unlikable are your MEAL TICKET, you must respect that and when they see you adoring someone else they get jealous of the attention and the fact that they do not come up number one. It's about respect and attention and you are at work to work and assist your co-workers.

Again no matter how unlikable someone is, concetrate on the unlikable people first and the likable people come around.

And stop trying to find challenges with the Cancer because you are wearing yourself out. Speaking of one who can be flirty myself (and overly concerned about my guy) I know of what I am speaking.

Natasha
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Dulce Luna
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posted September 22, 2006 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe you may have to let him go a little Celtic. Just focus on yourself for now if you're truly depressed or exhausted. (Been there many times before)

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celticfyre
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posted September 22, 2006 09:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just want to be clear and thank everyone for their advice too. I work at an ER as a registered nurse and I volunteer at the firestation. The station is like a work enviroment in many respects but it has a differnt slant being a volunteer organization. We're more like a family albeit sometimes a dysfuntional one when it comes to things outside putting out fires and picking people off the pavement and taking them to the hospital. So it is a more social environment than a regular work place...the station is our home away from home we have a kitchen, a living room and asleepin area and yes the bunk room is co oed the whole crew sleeps together with plenty of innuendo jokes that no one takes seriously.
I have other issues right now at my work that have nothing to do with things at the firestation that are getting my down in a way that I have never been before and it is disharteneing that is why I am having such and especially hard time all areas of my life are in an uproar right now and I have no refuge except to go home and sleep.
I thank everybody hear and will continueto listen to your good advice and try to pull myself out of this but it is very hard...i just keep falling back into the hole.
Love to you all!

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