posted September 26, 2005 11:13 AM            

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I can just get over with my natural Scorpio tendencies where he just makes me CRAZY!!!!!!lol

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there is something called 'relation of silence ' i have alraedy recounted it earlier . reapeating it for u because i feel this is what it is .
i had a cancer gf .
we never spoke those three wonderful words even though we both knew eachother' s feeling . we actually never needed to . what is the use of mouth when eyes can speak .
to be a bit sure , just go on giving him hints through your subtle gestures . he knows what is going on , even if he hasn't said. u dont even need those words if u can speak through your eyes and people in love can , believe me . i personally haven't found it very hard to read ever. then again i have never approached a single gal in my life . infact , there's a new gal in my office , its been just two days but i know her mind , it might be just simple interest but i can tell that by her eyes . we haven't even came face to face uptill now , just side glances .

availability : oh, i can understand that . my scorp friend keeps on phoning just to know wheree i am . thats special of him , it actually makes him bring near to me . thats why , i said scorps are enchanting .got the point !

seduce : yeah its really easy . not a big deal . wanna make him commit to something ?
there's a trick to it . very simple trick , infact.

posted September 29, 2005 04:51 AM              

Can totally identify with u on this one ... crazy in love ....... it is difficult not to love 'em ........... dealing with the weeks of silence is the nightmare - then they contact you like no time has passed and nothing has happended.

Am dying to know what this seduction trick is ........... pleae don't keep us in suspense..

posted October 01, 2005 12:06 PM            

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whoa..well I guess we all are waiting for this.

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posted October 10, 2005 09:44 PM              

i'm a scorp and have started seeing a cancer recently. it took us long enough to start the relationship rolling with his side stepping and disappearing acts.

i'm just getting a lil curious here, do cancer men cheat?
unless it's only my cancer.

posted October 11, 2005 01:28 PM              

My boy crab has his venus in Gemini too. HIs moon in Taurus and his rising is Pisces. how would you interpret that combination??

posted October 11, 2005 02:50 PM            

There’s the whole mental over analysis of feelings first. Gemini in Venus can tend to dissect all of their feelings (and yours) nine ways to Sunday. When combined with the Cancer tendency to worry this might mean that your man is constantly second guessing your feelings for him. I do this FAR more than I should. I can over analyze and worry myself into a tizzy, only to find out that I was just jumping at shadows in the end. When you throw your man’s Pisces Ascendant into that mix, he might be over analyzing snatches of feelings he thinks he sensed on his emotional radar. Perhaps one day you are a bit distant, his empathy picks up on that and the over analysis begins. His extremely vivid Cancer/Pisces imagination could provide all kinds of reasons WHY you might be distant, some of them silly and extreme. Unless he has some help from his Mercury he doesn’t seem to have the influences of someone that would just come out and ask you what was going on either. The thing that saves your man from this tricky side of Gemini Venus is his Taurus moon, which will be the “voice of reason” in his own head when his over analysis gets to out of hand. You can also help you man by using your own empathy to sense his emotional distance, and confront him when he withdraws. Talk to him on a mental and emotional plane. Find out what happened and quell his concerns before they can really begin. Leave him in no doubt of how you really feel about him.

Now here’s the really sticky one. Gemini Venus’ are known for being flighty and unfaithful in relationships. I’m doubly burdened in this respect, because not only is my Gemini in Venus but Venus falls into the 7th house. My Descendant is also in Gemini. So if there is anyone on this planet likely to display these fickle, unfaithful Gemini tendencies, it would be me. I’ve spent a lot of time coming to terms in my Gemini placements. When I first did my chart, I was honestly horrified and went through a lot of self analysis to see if there was some aspect of my personality that was unfaithful (see there's that Gemini over analysis in action again). What I saw didn’t encourage me much – in the past, when my relationships starting going south I did find myself day dreaming about a love more peaceful and happy. I would never have cheated on my boyfriends but I imagined one day meeting someone else down the road. So was this a form of mental unfaithfulness? I had to really look at myself to answer this question. In truth I think the heart of my problem was not unfaithfulness, but a fundamental inability to know when to end things. With my Cancer Sun / Taurus moon placements I would stay in relationships WAY beyond their expiration dates. In fact, I’ve never broken up with a boyfriend. So relationships would get bogged down, argumentative, negative and miserable and the loyal parts of me would linger, while the Gemini Venus / Sag Ascendant would cast its eyes outward and imagine a love more peaceful and easy. So how does one deal with this tricky aspect of a Gemini Venus? Well, the answer to that question is – hopefully you will never have to. As long as your relationship is healthy and you are both working on it, your Cancer boys Gemini Venus will probably never look outward and even imagine being with someone else. His Cancer/Tarus combination is just too loyal for that. Of course problems will always come up, but you can dodge them by talking through everything. Approach things in a logical manner before they can escalate and become too big.

The other advice I can give you is try to keep things fun, and try to engage your Cancer boy’s mind. Another element of Gemini Venus is they need mental and social stimulation. Communication about ideas with a mental equal is essential to keeping a Gemini Venus madly in love with you. His Pisces ascendant would also prefer things light and enjoyable. So talk about things, do lots of things with him. Have fun. Don’t get too cocooned in your own lives that you forget to get out and enjoy life. This can be tricky because Cancer’s often do like to hide in their little holes, but try to get him out, breathing in fresh air, and surrounded by different energies from time to time. Keep him talking about things – philosophy, spirituality, etc. It will keep your relationship fresh and fun which is exactly what the doctor ordered for that tricky Gemini placement your man and I share.

posted October 11, 2005 04:51 PM              

Thanks for that insightful reply. yeah I think that was right on . his mercury is in Cancer BTW so i guess he's not gonna come out directly and ask what is going on. Yeah and wanna talk over analyzing things?..lol my moon is in Pisces...the first part where you were saying you about empathizing could have described me you could have just flipped the sexes...lol my ascendant is Libra so is my venus...so I guess I'm not a nuclear as most Scorpios...cuz all I want is balance and harmony...LOL

Yes he is a real gem...hence you see why I am in love with the man..and he did tell me that "once he's committed--he's committed" my question is when does he reach that point since he moves so slow...

keep up the good vibrations i need as much positive energy in my direction !!

posted October 12, 2005 06:55 AM            

what i feel is that cancers have a pre-commitment and post commitent phase . pre- commitent , they might cheat (in sense that he might move over to grener pastures they like beautiful confident ,compassionate women though this isn't the first preference but that too in the pre stage, once commited , only commitent counts ) but once commited , they dont anything to rock the boat . b'coz thier basic feeling is that they shouldn't feel guilty ( thats thier achille's heel , so if a cancer has to used , just make him feel guilty) and they take realtions as responsbilities , the value that they give thier own words is very high .
i would also agree with what isoleade interprets as being in realtion even when they have expired . once you are in a relation with a cancer , u become a part of his/her life whether in a good or bad way , u'll always be in his memories . no one is forgetten.

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Yes he is a real gem...hence you see why I am in love with the man..and he did tell me that "once he's committed--he's committed" my question is when does he reach that point since he moves so slow...

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posted October 12, 2005 07:06 AM            

and yeah , i dont think cancer-merc mean talking in indiretly , i feel its more of blunt kind . they might be diplomatic but if u ask them a genuine opinion , they might give u a blunt answer , thats why they prefer strightforwardness in raeltions , thats why no mind games and thats why no running behind any gal . atleast thats the case with me . even people at LL feel , i am very blunt at times .

posted October 12, 2005 10:47 AM              

you are special!!!

posted October 12, 2005 03:30 PM            

You poor thing, that Pisces moon would make things tricky for you, huh? Believe me, I understand over analysis. I’m the queen. Fortunately my Leo Mercury bluntness and my Sag ascendant honesty make me just come out and ask sooner or later, but that can take DAYS of me sitting around thinking things to death and being afraid.

As for your man, he might already BE in that committed stage. He just hasn’t talked to you about it because he’s worried about something (like scaring you off). Have you considered just sitting down with him and having a talk? I’m not suggesting you come out and ask him if he loves you or is ready to marry you - I’m just suggesting that you ask him what he sees as the state of your relationship. Are you exclusive, etc? There’s a lot he’s probably just not said yet because he’s biding his time, waiting until the foundation of your relationship is more firmly established.

I’m actually in the same boat as you now with my man. He has that same slow-moving Taurus moon, and a Gemini Mercury so I doubt he’ll breach any discussions about our relationship, which means good ol’ me with my wacky influences is probably going to have to summon up the courage at some point. But not now. Haha. I’m still in the building and biding my time phase now and not ready to be that courageous. Your man may be thinking the same thing, dear lady. So if you can find the strength, then go ahead and initiate a discussion. See what happens. : )

posted October 12, 2005 04:38 PM              

I probably wouldn't need to have that talk or be this state that I'm in if I was able to spend more quality time with him. We haven't had any "us" time in the last 2 weeks. I had helped him with a ladder at his house so he could finish painting the outside of his townhouse. I gave him a massage afterward which of course lead to ..well you know not to kiss and tell here ..lol but we were interupted due to time constraint as he had t go return the ladder he rented and then go pick up his daughter from his ex- wife. I received no contact except a return e-mail about fire station business...and the only time we have seen each other has been at the station where the littlest of affection or conversation to each other can be had. Last nite there was a company meeting were his youngest actually came looking for me to say Hi and give me a hug then she told me "i smelled pretty" that was the nicest thing that happened to me all week. His oldest was there and I talked to her for a bit she had been sick and wasn't feeling well and I know she came home so she could be home for her dad to take care of her as I'm sure it feels better to be home when your sick than her Air Force dorm. (at least i would do the same thing) So he had double the destraction , in addition to all the other stuff going on before and after these meetings people are pulling you here and there especially if they don't see you at other times of the week so it is a big mish mash of conversations and "wheres so and so I need them for such and such" He did ask how I was after I said hi , but it was the way he said it almost like he was concerned as he asked just something in the tone of his voice, but then he got pulled away from me and the rest of the evening there was no other opportunity to talk or even exchange a good bye. I mean right now I feel so bummed --I feel like going underground myself. I feel afraid even to call him as i never seem to get him only voice mail and not call back, e-mails are virutally are unreturned so I am just at a loss as to what to do..I mean I have a birthday present for his daughter and she is having a pj party saturday but I don't think she is aware of it because she acted like she didn't know he had agreed to it--in fact she seem sorta bummed too. Her actual birthday is monday. anyway I am rambling away at a stream of conciousness here thanks to you all for letting me ramble...helps to disperse the negative vibes

posted October 12, 2005 05:22 PM            

The simplest way one can look at Leo in any planetary position is to look for the cat-influences in introduces into that part of the chart. I grew up with a father, mother, and sister with Leo suns and heavy Leo influences so I'm very familiar with the big cats. In the case of Venus in Leo it makes you warm and cuddly with those you care for (cats pile up and sleep together for warmth, there is no sense of personal space, just a need for closeness). It also makes you purr contentedly when your are given attention. It makes you a pack animal, when you adopt a person into your pack you protect them, take care of them, and are loyal to them. In some ways you see your loves as possessions but not in the same way a Taurus does, it’s more like they are your pack and you are the pack leader. They belong close to you. I hope that makes sense. So when some other creature makes a move on your mate, you would probably be inclined to be jealous and protective of what you see as your territory. You might even roar a bit. That mate belongs with you after all.

Taking this out of the cat analogy now…Venus and Leo is a great position imho (it’s one you and my Cancer share). It’s bold, generous, loyal, caring. It tends to need absolute adoration from a partner though. You’ll need to be with someone that thinks the world of you and pays you LOTS of attention. You may brag a bit to your love, or joke about how other women want you. This is just another aspect of Leo venus' need for attention. But this tendancy can be hurtful or worrisome if your mate is one of the more possessive signs (*cough* Cancer or Scorpio). You’ll want to find someone that is very affectionate - Hugs, petting, cuddling and the like. This is probably the same kind of affection you give those you care about, and you’ll want the same in return. The loyalty aspect is one of the things I love about Venus in Leo. Most people with this aspect are absolutely loyal. The only thing that will make you question that loyalty or want to look elsewhere is if you feel you are not loved, appreciated, and adored. Even then you’ll probably remain loyal, but I bet your Cancer tendencies would make you withdraw in a big way. I also have a soft spot of Leo romanticism and generosity. Leo Venuses tend to be very generous and treat their lovers grandly.