posted February 26, 2010 05:49 AM            

My great-uncle wasn't really part of my childhood. He was far too sick by then... it was more about my mother and grandmother by then.

At any rate, I have seen *particular* asteroids have a theme for me ... for instance, Ceres is a big deal with transits. And also, she's in my 8th, conjunct Neptune and Juno exactly.
Issues regarding motherhood, nurturing,death, and self-worth figure in heavily.

posted February 26, 2010 06:26 AM              

i didnt wanted to look condescending...i just stated my own truth obviously.

From my own personal experience,ive only discovered my Truth ( and ive been still...) through asteroids...not only planets...planets dont show the whole story,not the important details....and our Soul is so complex..we live so many times so imagine how could the regular chart show all our Past?and indicate possible future/influences???? it cant...

when someone doesnt "see the truth" that doenst mean is less evolved..it just means that something is blocking our awareness.

that ´s all...if you read Eckart tolle for example...you will know what im talking about.

to have Faith and know where to look,without testing it...without wondering about scientific methods or results,it is not acting like a sheep..to the contrary!

in these modern days,people tend to look for answers in the wrong places...and through the wrong ways....for me,the real answers are within,and when we find the real ones,we wont put skepticism ahead...they just are felt like being our own Truth.

posted February 26, 2010 06:43 AM            

Also, I find Eckart a redone version of Alan Watts, who I love, and who is the source of this stuff. He was around a lot earlier too. But Watts was more fun. There was always room for diversity.
That's the difference for me.

As for what you wrote:
"in these modern days,people tend to look for answers in the wrong places...and through the wrong ways....for me,the real answers are within,and when we find the real ones,we wont put skepticism ahead..."

See, what is the 'wrong' place? What does that even mean? There is no 'wrong' in the journey, Diandra. There's different, but 'wrong'? No. Sorry. However I arrive at conclusions is no better then how you do so.
Well... my way is better, because it works better FOR ME

Skepticism is just a process, just as faith is a process. For me, there is no difference in either one.

And again, for ME it's not about skepticism, it's about diversity. If my own sense of skepticism is being criticized, then where's the openness of THAT?
Again, it's very condescending to imply that one's thinking process is on a level which is not enlightened just because it's not in agreement with Eckart or whoever. Hell, some people never even heard of the guy. Does that mean they are somehow less evolved?!
Because they're not all light and love and whatever? It's just bogus to me to take human experience... PERSONAL human experience...and measure it according to what is good and milky and benign. I'm sorry, but some of us don't work that way. Some of us live in darkness and that is our saving grace. It takes all kinds to make the world go 'round.

posted February 26, 2010 06:47 AM              

but like i said..doenst mean more or less evolved...we have different ways of perspective that is all.

we ARE all love/light/joy...wether we are counsciously aware of that,,or not!

that is how i see it.

but yup i tend to view sepkticism as the hardest road to arrive at our own truths...to me implies too much pain and time waisted...i always remember of NEO....some take the blue pill and others take the red pill!

posted February 26, 2010 07:07 AM            

that was a fascinating read. Those Sabians do not cease to amaze me, as well as the precision of some aspects.

So Nefertiti was the consort of King Tut?
I always thought it was another name for Nofretete.
At least wikipedia led me to think that.
I found that Tut was married to Ankhesenpaaten.

Anyway, both were part of the same family obviously, Nefertiti / Nofretete being married to his father.

On the topic of asteroids I often wonder if there is a difference in interpretation for asteroids which are named after mythological figures or places or historical / living people or such as Lust, signifying a feeling rather than being associated with mythological figures.

The planets are of course named after Gods and Goddesses, and I wonder if maybe asteroids carrying these names like Juno or Amor may be stronger or more important or more obvious than others.

posted February 26, 2010 07:10 AM            

I agree with that.

posted February 26, 2010 07:15 AM            

In the end we of course have to decide what is true to us. But I like being able to acknowledge other people`s point of view.

posted February 26, 2010 07:40 AM              

-skeptikus is semisquare my Mercury
- skeptikus is cj my karma and mars-imagine that!!!

while i embraced spekticism´s perpectives i was feelin miserable and now im free.!

hmm guess it was a karmic process.to be able to let go of the skepticus part in me..?

SABIAN

"BRILLIANT SUNSHINE JUST AFTER A STORM"

-key words:The warmth of renewal. Recovery. Religious experiences. Good news after bad. Relief and joy. The sun breaking through the clouds.
The Caution: Fearing that the storm will soon return. Being stuck in fear. Invoking arguments because of the reward of "making up".

this is actually fun hihihih

SKEPTICUS is trine my Aura and Fantasia--so although being at ease aspect with these,ig goes against my natural process of thinking...

and it is linked with FANTASIA which cj my Vertex.

Aura is cj Felicitas;my Alma is cj my Moon;My NODE is cj AKASHI and ABSOLUS is cj my Venus...

im ALL neptunian...im a stellium pisces in Helio afterall...hihihi

my VENUS

"A MERMAID HAS CLIMBED TO THE ROCKY SHORE OF A BLEAK COAST, SHE AWAITS THE PRINCE WHO WILL BRING HER IMMORTALITY "

Keywords:You may find that you will be able to make sense of your intuitive or creative thoughts. In finally being able to verbalize these into rational expression, you will be creating a useable reality from your intuitive wisdom

ABSOLUS ( INTUITION)

"AN UNSEALED LETTER HAS VITAL AND CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION"

KEYWORDS:There is a message that you wish to spread and you will be able to do so if you put the message into reality either by writing it down or speaking it. However you transmit it, it needs to be done from the heart and with integrity.. Wearing your heart on your sleeve. Shared thoughts and feelings.

sO....HOW COULD I accept skepticism in my perspective if im all heart,and intuition?

This is what works for me...

but of course i respetc other´s perspectives.

posted February 26, 2010 07:46 AM            

Skepticus has the Sabian of A Little Child Learning To Walk With The Encouragement Of His Parents
in my chart.
It is conjunct Mars and Amor.

posted February 26, 2010 08:18 AM            

quote:

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-skeptikus is semisquare my Mercury
- skeptikus is cj my karma and mars-imagine that!!!

while i embraced spekticism´s perpectives i was feelin miserable and now im free.!

hmm guess it was a karmic process.to be able to let go of the skepticus part in me..?

SABIAN

"BRILLIANT SUNSHINE JUST AFTER A STORM"

-key words:The warmth of renewal. Recovery. Religious experiences. Good news after bad. Relief and joy. The sun breaking through the clouds.
The Caution: Fearing that the storm will soon return. Being stuck in fear. Invoking arguments because of the reward of "making up".

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posted February 26, 2010 10:17 AM            

MyVirgoMask - I share your view, perhaps my personal Virgo mask in play.

My loaded Piscean two cents - I personally view skepticism as an honorable tool to resist temptation. I could very easily choose to swim downstream at any moment. I am so very human, at least half. I do so want to pass the test and graduate! IQ knows one of my possible past life's fall and his asteroid insights provided me with clarity for a current struggle. Dealing with opposing forces in my personal chart is quite the challenge. (and challenge contains some words like: angle or angel can heal all) One of Linda Goodman's biggest messages was the importance of the holy trinity of LOVE, the mind, heart, & spirit connection. As always has been, there's lots of folks looking for love in all the wrong places. "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure," was a favorite saying of Linda's. So to me a wise fairy tale princess is skeptical of prince charming simply because charm contains the word harm. I recently spiraled into research that used the term "over-individualized" to coin the current culture. Stumbled into I Ching 48 the Well. Yes, the well of living waters is available to ALL. However, it's only wise to not drink poisoned water. This further means the purity of wisdom is in danger of becoming tainted the more hands and mouths it has passed through. So it's probably safer to draw your own water from the well. This is just my interpretation.

posted February 26, 2010 10:41 AM              

well it is hard for me to explain what i mean about spekticism.

it al comes down to one thing,since i started on LOA,IM etc...

from the moment that i accepted to enter in this new realm for me,that i also reconstructed my all perspectives by putting aside all spekticism possible.

this type of spekticism:

"A scientific (or empirical) skeptic is one who questions the reliability of certain kinds of claims by subjecting them to a systematic investigation.[6] The scientific method details the specific process by which this investigation of reality is conducted. Considering the rigor of the scientific method, science itself may simply be thought of as an organized form of skepticism. This does not mean that the scientific skeptic is necessarily a scientist who conducts live experiments (though this may be the case), but that the skeptic generally accepts claims that are in his/her view likely to be true based on testable hypotheses and critical thinking."

So my process of thinking is not at ease with the spektic part you see?my Merc is trine moon,Alma and sqaures neptune.

"Rational, logical thought patterns can conflict with intuitive perceptions. This means that you may not trust your own intuition simply because there is no rational explanation to back it up. Sometimes when you're verbalizing your thoughts, you can go on into infinity. However, at other times when you withdraw into your own mental "attic" you can become very quiet, giving others the impression that you're spaced out. With this aspect it is important for you to cultivate inner conviction by eradicating doubts and irrational fears. Avoid indulging in self defeating words or thoughts, as they may eventually manifest as tangible events. Instead, use your mind to imagine the best and reap the rewards of positive thinking."

my process of though are much more linked to emotion,intuition,heart.

i dont discredit reason to others,but for me,i always encounter my own truths within.

i see skpticims bound to my karma/actions...it was when i let go of it that i started to feel empowered and really tapping into Myself in search and discovery of answers.

i do ask questions,i do argumentate and have process of thinking ,i just dont use skepticism.and i dont need it not to fall into "temptations!"

posted February 26, 2010 10:43 AM            

But if we are ONLY listening to what is within us, we might be tapping into illusions or Ego as well, just wrapping it up into spiritual terms, and not even being aware of it, that we step over others in the process.

I don`t say that it happens in every case, I just say there is a potential danger to it.

There are - unfortunately- many ugly and nasty example of people who "listened to their truth within" and in that process did horrible things.

On the other hand I think we MUST listen to the truth within; but the truth within should be reflected by outer things, too.

Example:
My inner truth tells me that X loves me dearly and that if I am just patient enough he will realize that one day.

The outer events show that X is beating me up every other day and I am spending more time in hospital to mend my broken bones than out of hospital.

My inner truth tells me it is love, while the outside "reality" clearly shows the opposite.

In this case inner truth and outside events do NOT go together, which would lead me to think that maybe I have to modify my perception of inner truth.
But if I don`t question this inner truth and his behaviour (being skeptical), I probably will let him beat me to death without ever realizing that I was completely delusional, while sticking to my inner truth.

I just chose this example to show how following your inner feelings blindly, can actually completely mislead you.
On the other hand, ignoring your inner feelings / truth, is just as bad.

There has to be a balance.

That is all I am trying to say.

posted February 26, 2010 10:57 AM              

i thought it was spektic hihihihi

posted February 26, 2010 11:46 AM            

thanks.

And yes I agree with you. I also think that there is a lot of inner reasoning behind intuition.

posted February 26, 2010 11:56 AM              

nad COMICA

i completelly agree...by tapping within we must be aware if we are tapping into the heart/souls voice=intuition or if waht we are really listening is the ego´s little voice...cause it is always there too...

the main difference which i found fitting for me,it is this one:

intuition:is the soul´s voice. "is receiving input and ideas without knowing exactly how and where you got them from. You simply know it is not from yourself. Like creativity, intuitive inspiration often happens when someone virtually «fuses» in an activity, when one is highly focused on the respective activity in a state of joy and fulfilment."

Albert Einstein said it too:

«The only real valuable thing is intuition.»

«There is no logical way to the discovery of these elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance.»

EGO
http://deoxy.org/egofalse.htm

Egos is a false center.a dead thing.