posted March 05, 2010 02:20 PM            

I apologize for calling you wise.
Well, see it as the word of a blind one to the person with one eye.

And more hair than Jude Law? You certainly are only referring to his head, aren`t you?
He actually has pretty much hair... elsewhere.

"I have PALLAS in a 0* t-square: opp my Moon, square Uranus."
That sounds actually very intriguing.

"It's also cnj Psyche and trine Pluto, both 0*. Sextile Neptune, 1*."
We have something in common again.
My Pallas is in Aquarius exactly trine Pluto and exactly sextile Neptune. lol

"Fun fact: In a high school play, I played Athena. That role was my 1st choice."
Yes, I also always liked her.

For some reason, when I was reading up Greek mythology as a kid, I was identifying with Artemis in big ways; it even puzzled me back then.

posted March 05, 2010 02:29 PM            

sorry I had missed your asteroid listing previously.

"My Actor is in 14'32 Capricorn in 5th
trine/sextile Ascendant/Descendant in 13'27 Virgo/Pisces

in Right Ascension, the trine is within 1 degree:
Actor in 13'47 Capricorn
trine/sextile Ascendant/Descendant in 14'45 Virgo/Pisces"

So you have Actor aspecting ASC, and Actor being in 5th house. Seems like you have a natural ability to either understand acting / actors or express yourself in this way. Maybe, since it is a trine / sextile instead of a conjunction, it is more some kind of "sleeping talent", and not as pressing as with the more energetic aspects?

"Shakespeare in 24'12 Libra
trine Mars in 25'54 Aquarius

Shakespeare 8'56 South
parallel Moon 8'32 South"

That is kinda funny, your Shakespeare is trine my Shakespeare.

"Geo North Shakespeare Node in 4'18 Taurus
oppose Sun in 5'20 Scorpio
(2 minutes past maximum 1'00 orb)

Geo South Shakespeare Node in 4'50 Scorpio
conjunct Sun in 5'20 Scorpio"
Wow! That looks very significant.
Do you like Shakespeare? Do you feel connected to his plays?

"Heliocentric Shakespeare Nodes in 4'39 Taurus/Scorpio
oppose/conjunct Sun in Scorpio in 5'20 Scorpio"
That is even intensifying it.

"so my Sun is connected to both personal karmic connection/association and collective karmic connection/association of Shakespeare"
That looks VERY significant to me. And isn`t your Ixion there, too?
Well, Ixion could have been a character from one of Shakespeare`s plays, he would have fitted right in there.

What does Shakespeare mean to you?
Have you ever tried acting?

posted March 05, 2010 02:39 PM            

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It's no different from how many Astrologers view Asteroid Astrology.

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I agree.

Also, which arguments against asteroids are not also arguments against planets?

People can say this is a planet so it has meaning and this is an asteroid so it doesn't, but that's begging the question.

How do we know those planets have meaning? We were born into that system, but it was once being developed. Can we say that the arguments we have against asteroids couldn't be used identically against planets when that part of astrology was being developed?

And, as we've already mentioned, the modern planets (Uranus +) weren't studied astrologically and then named for their power. Their power ended up matching their name. I see asteroids as having that same inspired naming.

For me, the test for asteroids is whether they have meaning.

~If name asteroids don't describe your experience of people and places in your life with those names, then name asteroids are bs.

~If the state of mind described by the corresponding asteroid doesn't match your actual state of mind for that issue, then that asteroid is bs. We will not experience every state of mind, but the ones we do should be described by the corresponding asteroids, while keeping in mind that asteroids aren't isolated from the rest of us.

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~We also have to keep in mind how we all have range. We're fluid so the way our charts work must be as well, since they are just our mirror.

I will not be the same person throughout my life, so the way I experience my chart will be different from 5 to 35 to 75.

I will not be the same person after a major life lesson as I was before it.

I will not be the same person in moments when I approach life with love as I will be in moments when I approach life with hate.

Twins with the same charts will not experience themselves and life identically.

posted March 05, 2010 03:48 PM            

you inspired me to look up Shakespeare in my chart, too.

It seems I have a Grand trine of

Shakespeare on 23°05 Gemini in 7th house
Musa on 21°58 Libra in 10th house
Talent on 22°57 Aquarius in 2nd house

Shakespeare also opposes Mercury on 25°03 Sagittarius and Sun on 25°56 Sagittarius in 1st house

posted March 05, 2010 04:00 PM            

Actually

I meant about the heliocentric,geocentric nodes involving Rayhe,Laurentia as well as Apollo,Hermes

I liked Shakespeare growing up. I read some of the plays. My Aunt Dede thought

as for acting, never got into it
I wanted to do acting,writing screen plays,director,and producing. I got discouraged by my mother. I was also discouraged by problems with academics. I actually wanted to go to UCLA.

As a kid, I loved pretending to be people and can get carried away. When I would read in class, I'd crack people because I would get so into the character. In my 12th grade English class, I was allowed to read as Oedipus for the whole book while others read for short time and others took over reading roles.

I was born on the same day as actress,Winona Ryder. I didn't know until 1998 from Astro-Numerology book.

My Ixion is in 5'25 Scorpio. Anything that aspects my Sun, aspects my Ixion.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted March 05, 2010 05:18 PM            

I'd been mildly interested in astrology for years. I would read about some parts of my chart - yeah, that's really me if you tweak it here and there. I'd read about some other parts - no, that really doesn't sound like me. There was enough that seemed true for me to think there was something to astrology. There wasn't enough for me to think - wow, this is really speaking my language!

At least, not until I happened upon some Eros descriptions. It was right on. I saw that I had Eros on my SN, but at the time I didn't know a South Node from a South Pole. But now I think that's so fitting. Of course it's the consciousness that's on my SN that would feel so familiar! That would color so much of who I am!

And that's when I got into astrology in a more serious way. Found this place in a google search, and now you're all stuck with me. Mwhahahaha!

Now, as for what Eros is. For me, Eros is sexual. It's about far more than sex but, then, so is sex.

I know it's sexual for me because of introspection and observation (of transits and synastry).

I think it can be sexual for everyone, depending on what motivates you to have sex. Eros motivation is a desire to live in that moment when divine love created existence. When what WAS so badly desired expression that it created the universe.

Venus wants pleasure and relationship. Mars wants to express our body's drive.

Eros wants to make love in a way that takes us back to that moment that divides nothing from something. That desire to become is the strongest desire we have. Going there somehow redeems all of existence, gives you a perspective that makes it all profoundly beautiful.

posted March 06, 2010 05:13 AM            

They argue that Astrology doesn't work because it can apply to anybody. They argue about you should have faith in yourself and not the stars. They say that stars don't determine your personality. I tried to explain that they reflect the personality as in synchronicity, and they didn't believe that either.

They pretty much referred to people that are into Astrology don't know about themselves and are weakminded.

I was angry talking to them because they came off patronizing and condescending. I wanted to cuss them out. I ended up just leaving the chatroom.

but yeah...not everybody into metaphysical,occult believe Astrology is valid.

I have dealt with these types before back in 1999, and it made me resentful.

I feel that some astrologers have the same way about asteroid astrologers.

man...I wanted to go off and tell them "Look ,a-holes....all the stuff that you talk about would make psychiatrists think that you're schizophrenics because all that metaphysical stuff is seen as B.S. by them just like Astrology is!"

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted March 06, 2010 05:47 AM            

Taurean_Scorpio,
In the 'Axis of Earthquakes' thread, note the point in page 2 of how Poseidon appears 12/14 times in sidereal or tropical Capricorn in the 14 worst quakes of human history [for which we have a proper date.]
I have even given the math formula page where the probability is 1/30 million.

If Liz Greene or Nel Tyl or any "established" hence Saturnian Astrologer can show this Uranian IQ any Planet in a sign or same one degree orb aspect between same two planets which also occur 12/15 times [they can take one more trial, my gift]
times in a list of top 15 earthquakes, typhoons, volcanoes or floods of world history, then I will stop using Asteroids.
Established Astrologers are sh*t scared of one degree orbs, they need their 7 degree orbs to fit any explanation for any event using just planets. Some will even use a 5 degree orb for sextiles to explain away attraction because they dont want to see a more obvious Mars exact conj EROS or Sun exact conj APHRODITE aspect in synastry.

posted March 06, 2010 05:30 PM            

People can say this is a planet so it has meaning and this is an asteroid so it doesn't, but that's begging the question.

Jane, good point. I just don't know why we don't have enough info. on asteroids and why famous astrologers don't pay much attention to them? It's hard to find any interpretation for asteroids...

posted March 06, 2010 06:24 PM            

If I haven't spoken to someone in awhile, I look at their chart to figure out what's going on with them and what will probably happen. I'm right 99% of the time as I find out later.

posted March 07, 2010 07:52 PM            

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And let me remind you Diana, you are currently the world's only expert on deciphering Aquarius men...

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