posted February 27, 2010 04:14 PM              

cause there arent any enemies...when you consider someone an enemy,you´re just looking at yourself. the so called enemy is your closest friend cause he is myrroing the faults that you have inside,and that you dont want to counsciously admit.

posted February 27, 2010 04:54 PM            

There were other more mundane things she tried to discipline me on, like being less perfectionist and more quick. That was a point that actually probably should have been drilled harder.

Stability, yes. Attempts at getting me to actualize certain potentials, yes as well.

posted February 27, 2010 05:21 PM            

They seem to work just like the planetary nodes seem to work.

but the orbs have to be small

no more than 1 degree unless it repeats a pattern, you could probably stretch it 1/2 degree

the geocentric ones move relatively fast.....they return to their positions every year......they are personal energies

the heliocentric ones move very slowly...slow as fixed stars......they are collective energies
http://www.true-node.com/pos/

if you have a planet,point that aspects both the heliocentric AND geocentric node of the object,(especially if they both conjunct the planet,point) then it's significant. After all the heliocentric node is moves as slow as a fixed star and geocentric node returns to its natal position within a year. So obviously,they have much different travel rates.

for example

asteroids:
Hermes - Greek God of Commerce,Liars,Thieves,Shepherds,Cowherds messenger of the Gods, guided souls to the Underworld - the Roman version of Hermes is Mercury
Apollo - the Greek/Roman God of Light,Prophecy,Healing,Truth,Archery,Music - He was also known as the Sun God in place of Helios, Sol (the Sun)
Rayhe - using for Ray
Laurentia - using for Lawrence,my biological father

Hermes in 3'16 Pisces
conjunct Moon in 3'11 Pisces
square Saturn in 5'08 Gemini R
square Neptune in 1'48 Sagittarius

Geo South Hermes Node in 5'07 Scorpio
conjunct Sun in 5'20 Scorpio

Helio Hermes Nodes in 4'54 Taurus/Scorpio
oppose Sun in 5'20 Scorpio

Apollo in 13'10 Sagittarius
oppose/conjunct Midheaven/Imum Coeli in 11'14 Gemini/Sagittarius
square Ascendant/Descendant in 13'27 Virgo/Pisces
sextile/trine Lunar Nodes in 10'30 Aquarius/Leo

Geo South Apollo Node in 5'38 Scorpio
conjunct Sun in 5'20 Scorpio

Helio Apollo Nodes in 5'53 Taurus/Scorpio
oppose/conjunct Sun in 5'20 Scorpio

Laurentia in 25'27 Sagittarius
sextile Mars in 25'54 Aquarius

Geo South Laurentia Node in 6'10 Scorpio
conjunct Sun in 5'20 Scorpio

Helio Laurentia Nodes in 6'28 Taurus/Scorpio
oppose/conjunct Sun in 5'20 Scorpio
(it's over the maximum 1'00 orb....but seeing how my Sun conjuncts the South Geocentric Laurentia Node, it makes sense to count it)

Geo North Rayhe Node in 6'10 Scorpio
conjunct Sun in 5'20 Scorpio

Helio Rayhe Nodes in 6'27 Scorpio/Taurus
conjunct/oppose Sun in 5'20 Scorpio
(it's over the maximum 1 degree..but seeing how the Sun conjuncts the North Geocentric Node, it makes sense to count it)

is it a coincidence that on the day that I was born and my mom named me "Raymond" with Ray being short for that name with my being the son of Lawrence, there happened to be a conjunction of the Sun,Geocentric North Rayhe Node,Heliocentric North Rayhe Node,Geocentric South Laurentia Node, Heliocentric South Laurentia Node?

I really don't think so!...especially with Sun is considered the father in the chart, and I have it conjunct Geocentric South Laurentia Node and Heliocentric South Laurentia Node, and my biological father's name was Lawrence. I also wonder with it being South Nodes, I wasn't meant to be with my father. I was meant to release him because some say that South Node has to do with releasing. I never knew my biological father. He left when I was a year old. He was pretty much just a sperm donor.

I even have the asteroid,Scotti in 5'23 Scorpio and the asteroid,Ariadne in 5'03 Scorpio conjunct my Sun. Scott was my father's last name which I never had. I have my mother's maiden name. I read that Ariadne had to do with abandonment. I have a
Sun-Ariadne-Scotti-Geo South Laurentia Node,Helio South Laurentia conjunction that indicate my being abandoned by my father, Lawrence Scott.

The Heliocentric Laurentia Nodes and Heliocentric Rayhe are in exact opposition to each other. The Sun aspected that nodal opposition. that's not a coincidence! the same with the geocentric north Rayhe Node and geocentric south Laurentia node being conjunct each other exact!

I don't think that it's a coincidence to be born during a conjuction of Sun,Geocentric South Apollo Node,Heliocentric South Apollo Node, Geocentric South Hermes Node,and Heliocentric South Hermes Node either.

Apollo and Hermes were paternal brothers with them both being sons of Zeus. One of the stories was that Hermes stole Apollo's cattle which made Apollo furious. Hermes invented the lyre, and Apollo wanted it. Hermes gave it to Apollo, and Apollo gave his caduceus.

Apollo was my favorite deity when I was into mythology as a kid. I wonder if my strong Apollo influence is more about being a healer of some sort.

what is also weird is that I have the asteroid conjunction of Apollo and Aesculapia conjunct/oppose my Midheaven/Imum Coeli and square my Ascendant/Descendant axis. Aesculapius is the Roman version of the Greek God of Medicine,Asclepius. Asclepius was the son of Apollo and Coronis. Apollo killed Coronis because she was messing with another guy. He shot her with one of his arrows, and he saved his unborn son. I even have asteroid,Hippokrates stationary oppose/conjunct Ascendant/Descendant axis and square the Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis.

Hermes was one of my favorites too.
my strong Hermes influence emphasizes the strong communications themes in my chart. Hermes involved in my t-square could indicate the problems with communications/information processing that I have. When I was in the navy, I was Radioman in message processing center in Communications Dept. Hermes was known for his speed,quickness. I was a very fast runner,very quick. Coincidentally, I even have the asteroid Jesseowens conjunct my Sun within 1 degree. Jesse Owens was the Olympic gold medalist in track who put a huge dent in Hitler's Aryan Supremacy at the Berlin Olympics. Jesse Owens was a black man who lived in Jim Crow days just like my father was a black man that lived in Jim Crow days. I was on track team,but I was on there briefly. I had to quit because of bad grades.

With Hermes being the guide to the underworld, it could mean the Hermetic mysteries. It could also be about psychoanalysis. I have Mercury in Scorpio in 3rd sextile Geocentric Pluto Node that can also indicate that.

but yeah...I believe asteroid nodes work. it doesn't matter geocentric or heliocentric. the seem to work just like planetary nodes doe.

also Zipporah Dobyns wrote a book, The Node Book which was about the geocentric planetary nodes,the geocentric nodes of Ceres,Pallas,Vesta,and Juno as well as the lunar nodes. She was into using asteroid nodes.

I really don't like referring to the lunar nodes as "nodes" because it implies that only the Moon has nodes when actually all objects have nodes. Nodes are just the intersection of the planes of reference involving 2 objects. Even Ascendant/Descendant,Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis are technically nodes. That's the same with Vertex/Antivertex axis. Astronomers always record the nodes of objects.

it's Asteroid astrology stuff that strengthens my belief that Astrology works.

asteroids finetunes and shows a story.

with just planets,it's vague because planets have multiple meanings,rulerships

just check out Rex E Bill's Rulership book,and you'll see what I mean. there are like over 5 pages to cover 1 planetary rulership alone!

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted February 27, 2010 09:29 PM            

I was born on the same exact day as Winona Ryder who is an actress

When I have kids and they want to have certain careers that aren't the secure 9-5 type, I am not going discourage them. I will consider what they want to do. A parent's job is to guide their children to their path. His/her job is not to determine the child's path. Parenting shouldn't be about controlling the child,making him/her be what he/she wants to be. You see those issues a lot, especially when parents want their children to do what they do or don't want them to do what they don't like.

Hey, I am not crazy about psychiatrists. If my child wants to be a psychiatrist, I am not going to dissuade him. I don't want him/her to be an astrologer nor a neurodiversity advocate if he/she doesn't want to be be

My Actor is in 14'32 Capricorn in 5th
trine/sextile Ascendant/Descendant in 13'27 Virgo/Pisces
square Uranus in 15'17 Libra in 2nd

in Right Ascension, the trine is within 1 degree:
Actor in 13'47 Capricorn
trine/sextile Ascendant/Descendant in 14'45 Virgo/Pisces

Geo North Actor Node in 15'36 Scorpio
oppose Part of Fortune in 15'38 Taurus

Geo South Actor Node in 20'37 Taurus
oppose Venus in 21'47 Scorpio
(10 minutes past maximum 1'00 orb)

Heliocentric Actor Nodes in 17'20 Taurus/Scorpio
oppose/conjunct Mercury in 18'21 Scorpio
(1 minute past maximum 1'00 orb)

Shakespeare in 24'12 Libra
trine Mars in 25'54 Aquarius

Shakespeare 8'56 South
parallel Moon 8'32 South

Geo North Shakespeare Node in 4'18 Taurus
oppose Sun in 5'20 Scorpio
(2 minutes past maximum 1'00 orb)

Geo South Shakespeare Node in 4'50 Scorpio
conjunct Sun in 5'20 Scorpio

Heliocentric Shakespeare Nodes in 4'39 Taurus/Scorpio
oppose/conjunct Sun in Scorpio in 5'20 Scorpio

so my Sun is not only oppose/conjunct the Geocentric Shakespeare Nodes which return to their positions every year but also oppose/conjunct the Heliocentric Shakespeare Nodes which move up to 1 degree per century

the geocentric nodal axis of an asteroid is usually not an exact oppositioon like the heliocentric nodal axis of an asteroid is, and so it's significant for the geocentric Shakespeare nodes to be in opposition to each other within 1 degree

so my Sun is connected to both personal karmic connection/association and collective karmic connection/association of Shakespeare

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted February 28, 2010 12:44 AM              

You can spiral off on anything, yes?

Everything is only partly true, yes?

And there is always more to say, yes?

So, we must try to understand what is said
in the sense in which it was intended.

"Enemy", "adversary", "disputant",
"someone with whom you are at odds"...

Call it what you will.

Don't let words confuse our communication.

Don't create conflict where there is none
and don't deny conflict where it exists.

If we say "love your enemies"
the traditional interpretation of the
word "enemies" is already being
challenged and raised up to love.

Whether you censor the word,
or transmute its meaning,
the result is the same, yes?

The people we disagree with help us to
become aware of who we are as individuals.

We are not all the same.

We are "All One"... yes.

We all suffer.

We all want to be certain,
and to possess the security of certainty.

We all tremble before the paradoxes
and the ambiguities that seem to encroach
at the frontiers of our most deeply rooted
values, opinions, and worldviews.

We all change, adjust, adapt, and try to
align ourselves with what makes sense to us.

But we DO fundamentally oppose one another.
We do, very often, stand in one another's way.

Like it or not, we must be firm, we must offend eachother,
if we are going to stand up for the things we honestly love.

So, we had better learn to love our enemies,
because they are not going away --
they are indeed our enemies.

From the begining of the world.

Round and round we go.

"Come as you are,

as a friend, as a friend,

as an old enemy."

~ Kurt Cobain

posted February 28, 2010 12:47 AM            

Marry Me!! lol

posted February 28, 2010 01:08 AM            

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I've got Isis conjunct my Sun exactly. Kinda interesting.

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posted February 28, 2010 01:50 AM            

My Juno/Ceres exact conjunction weirds me out. It's just so exact, it feels like it's up to no good. Both of them are right there in the 8th house (Sagittarius) kissing, conspiring.

posted February 28, 2010 01:56 AM            

Right before the break happens though, it's often a series of major spiritual philosophies and religion which I end up starting arguments about with the other.

posted February 28, 2010 02:54 AM            

Earlier, when I tried to use all the readily available extras in that Additional Objects list, it seemed like a lot of stuff was in Scorpio.

Vertex @ 0
Pallas @ 1
Ceres @ 21

Actually, I guess that's it, but I don't think it showed the whole list.

I just realized that Pars Fortuna joins Jason and Actor in the 10th.

posted March 01, 2010 12:37 PM            

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my draco sun is 17 degree Sagittarius

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Wow! I remember we also have Asc cnj Dsc. Raymond's Sun is cnj that axis, on the Scorpio side. We're so incestuous.

Your d.Venus isn't being ignored either. It's...
trine my Saturn at 26 Virgo
opp my Juno at 28 Cancer.

Do you aspect my Draconic chart?

Asc 2 Gem
Sun 13 Cancer
Venus 11 Leo
MC 9 Pisces
Moon 20 Pisces

I also have three planets in Aries, so they may cnj your Moon. Degrees 5, 7, and 23.

AG -
The Jupiter-Venus cnj describes my crush.

As with MVM, I also have an axis lined up with you: MC cnj IC.

So if your Mercury is on my Sun, then your Saturn is opp my Sun. Have you noticed a preference in synastry for which side of that opp people put their planets?

posted March 01, 2010 02:50 PM            

Interestingly, I have Pluto at 17 Sag in my Draconic.

posted March 02, 2010 06:37 AM            

My Valentine is in 7th, conjunct my Sun, sextile my Karma and square my Mars.

What I want to know:

Asteroids for health
Asteroids for the money
Asteroids for travelling.

For love I have enough Asteroids.

Thank you,
B.

posted March 02, 2010 06:58 AM              

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posted March 02, 2010 07:59 AM            

Thank you for the link.

I have found only Asteroids for health.

For the money I know only Asteroid Fortuna.
What else?

posted March 02, 2010 08:09 AM              

one time i created a thread only about fortune asteroids!