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I'm so cappy
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posted April 16, 2014 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course. It's just a few-year-long analisys of one individual and your connection with him from every possible angle, there's nothing unusual about it

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Tulipe
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posted April 16, 2014 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One must admire the talent for observation and determination to get to the heart of the matter that Ceri has. I've learnt much from her analysis.

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posted April 16, 2014 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, have you done your Priapus persona? If yes, did you see any connection between the chart and what you desperately want in life?

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Tulipe
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posted April 16, 2014 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You ask me?

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posted April 16, 2014 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All of you.

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Tulipe
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posted April 16, 2014 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do you read it as something you want, planetary pattern or Sun-Moon signs/houses or major aspects to natal chart?

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posted April 16, 2014 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Of course. It's just a few-year-long analisys of one individual and your connection with him from every possible angle, there's nothing unusual about it


Well you obviously werenīt around back in the day, but he is not the only one I have analyzed.... thoroughly.

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posted April 16, 2014 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Tulipe:
One must admire the talent for observation and determination to get to the heart of the matter that Ceri has. I've learnt much from her analysis.


thank you

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posted April 16, 2014 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Hey, have you done your Priapus persona? If yes, did you see any connection between the chart and what you desperately want in life?



my Priapus-Venus: 8.30 Virgo
his Priapus-Mars: 7.44 Virgo


I rest my case. lol


EDIT
oh my natal Venus: 6.07 Capricorn
his natal Mars: 11.01 Virgo

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posted April 16, 2014 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oops, I see that Cappy means Priapus comparison in synastry then. I just compared it with my natal chart, POF conjunct my ASC exact, and that's all.

Ceri, isn't that male-female archetype, something Leeloo pointed out to me. I guess Leeloo has a date today as I don't see her on LL, our lucky girl.

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posted April 17, 2014 04:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Since you mentioned I also had in mind discussing the 8th harmonic (and 4th harmonic) with you, but am undecided if doing it on here or opening a new thread.

the link you posted got my attention too, a few months ago I was waking up several times with the name of "The knights of the silver Rose" and alternated with "the knights of the sacred rose", I didnīt find any traces of this in the net, but interestngly one of these mornings I would find a silver rose lying outside the window-door to my sleeping room. The wind must have blown it there from somewhere (you know of course it was an artificial rose, and actually only the head/ petals, not the stem). But still the words "silver rose" or "sacred rose" intrigued me.


Very interesting synchronicites.

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posted April 17, 2014 04:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I finally managed to have a decent look at his AMOR - my natal comparision.

I think this might be the most important configuration. It is not exact, no, but it still got my attention, oh yes, certainly.


3 crosses, well, of course i used asteroids, but still. How is it called and what does it mean?
I also found it interesting where my name asteroid falls.

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This is basically the Zodiac, I think - completion. That's why I pay attention to semisextiles, they seem to be a very harmonious aspects blending seemingly very different energy (adjacent Zodiac signs), but always on the principle Yin/Yang. What I mean is that I think the purpose for us is to activate the whole zodiac within our charts. Theoretically, an illuminated soul reaching the peak of his spiritual evolution should have the whole zodiac activated in his chart, all signs equally.

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posted April 17, 2014 04:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
A very very loose Sun-Venus-DW:

his AP Sun trine my Venus (3)
his AP Venus quinkunx my Sun (2-3)


conjunctions
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AP Mars-Union conjunct Uranus (1-2)
AP LUST conjunct VALENTINE (3)
AP VALENTINE conjunct Mars (0)
AP VALENTINE conjunct LUST (3)
AP VALENTINE conjunct ASC (2)
AP AMOR conjunct GUINEVERE exact
AP MOIRA conjunct Moon (1)
AP Vertex conjunct my name exact
AP Chiron conjunct my name (1)
AP Antivertex conjunct LANCELOT exact
AP Moon conjunct DESC (2)
AP Moon widely conjunct SN (5-6) - just mentioning it because it is a DW
AP Venus conjunct EROS (2)
AP Venus conjunct Vertex (2)
AP Venus conjunct DESTINN exact
AP NN conjunct CUPIDO exact
AP Jupiter opposite JUNO (1)
AP JUNO opposite JUNO (1)
AP Eros conjunct Pluto (1)
AP EROS conjunct APHRODITE (3)
AP APHRODITE conjunct APHRODITE exact


It's not as bad as you said, on the contrary

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posted April 17, 2014 04:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tulipe:
Oops, I see that Cappy means Priapus comparison in synastry then. I just compared it with my natal chart, POF conjunct my ASC exact, and that's all.

Ceri, isn't that male-female archetype, something Leeloo pointed out to me. I guess Leeloo has a date today as I don't see her on LL, our lucky girl.


Yes, I guess Ceri and MrSag would be like two peas in a pod, "Priapusly" speaking

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posted April 17, 2014 04:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by wonderingwoman:
I am totally new to persona charts and I have a question for a venus persona chart I just did.What would moon conjunct at 1 degree conjunct Aries ASC at 0 degrees signify? Venus is in capricorn 11th house.

Your Venus persona ASC is at Aries point in Aries? Love, beauty or art are very important to you, and you probably are very proactive in love. Love is regenerative and marks new beginnings. Your Moon there enhances that: I'd say if you're not an exceptional artist, then your femininity is very strong on various levels. Look where Mars is for more clues.

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posted April 17, 2014 04:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Hey, have you done your Priapus persona? If yes, did you see any connection between the chart and what you desperately want in life?


So, Cappy, what do you desperately want in life? That gorgeous man behind the pot?

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posted April 17, 2014 05:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No not quite bad. I agree.

Well it seems "our zodiac" seems to consist of:

his AP Venus
his AP NN
his AP Jupiter
his AP JUNO
his AP ASC
his AP Pluto
his AP KARMA
his AP Uranus
his AP Neptune
his AP MOIRA
his AP CUPIDO
his AP Chiron
his AP Vertex
(his AP PSYCHE and his AP "my name" - very loose orb)

my n Vertex
my n EROS
my n DESTINN
my n CUPIDO
my n DNA
my n SAPPHO
my n ARTHUR
my n Moon
my n JUNO
my n CHIRON
my n name
my n KARMA

As for semisextiles, I am quite unsure about them. I DO think however they are probably more important if they are part of a planetary pattern.
On their own, no I donīt think they are "harmonious", they are made up of different elements and different modalities and different polarities, so their nature is quite different (like the quinkunx). However there is also some inherent tension/ friction in the union of male and female as well. They are not the same. Different polarities, Yin-Yang. I find it rather interesting that the opposition for example combines the same polarities, same modalities and compatible elements (like the sextile).


But still I don`t quite think the semisextile is very strong on its own, but maybe I am wrong. Well of course I wish it was!
mr Sag`s Venus is semisextile my Sun within a minute of orb.

In a natal the semisextile might offer a bit of a release point, or well maybe release is the wrong expression, maybe it`s more like a step in growth, an insight that helps gaining a different perspective.

I am just thinking about Mr Sag`s own Sun semisextile his Venus, and while his Sun is squared by Saturn, his Venus is tightly trined by his Saturn. The Venus in this picture might be apt to bring a bit of, I donīt know, smoothen out the edges maybe.

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posted April 17, 2014 05:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

Yes, I guess Ceri and MrSag would be like two peas in a pod, "Priapusly" speaking


Yeah and probably the core urge would be to sit down and discuss calmly the summer weather or the news.

That is pretty likely with Venus and Mars, right?

Well since it is in Virgo, it actually might.

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posted April 17, 2014 05:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yeah and probably the core urge would be to sit down and discuss calmly the summer weather or the news.

That is pretty likely with Venus and Mars, right?

Well since it is in Virgo, it actually might.


No way...Virgo likes it every day

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posted April 17, 2014 05:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You wouldn`t think it, but earth signs do have connection to the more, well, physical realm.

Come to think of it both our Venus are in earth signs and his Mars is too.

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posted April 17, 2014 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
No not quite bad. I agree.

Well it seems "our zodiac" seems to consist of:

his AP Venus
his AP NN
his AP Jupiter
his AP JUNO
his AP ASC
his AP Pluto
his AP KARMA
his AP Uranus
his AP Neptune
his AP MOIRA
his AP CUPIDO
his AP Chiron
his AP Vertex
(his AP PSYCHE and his AP "my name" - very loose orb)

my n Vertex
my n EROS
my n DESTINN
my n CUPIDO
my n DNA
my n SAPPHO
my n ARTHUR
my n Moon
my n JUNO
my n CHIRON
my n name
my n KARMA

As for semisextiles, I am quite unsure about them. I DO think however they are probably more important if they are part of a planetary pattern.
On their own, no I donīt think they are "harmonious", they are made up of different elements and different modalities and different polarities, so their nature is quite different (like the quinkunx). However there is also some inherent tension/ friction in the union of male and female as well. They are not the same. Different polarities, Yin-Yang. I find it rather interesting that the opposition for example combines the same polarities, same modalities and compatible elements (like the sextile).


But still I don`t quite think the semisextile is very strong on its own, but maybe I am wrong. Well of course I wish it was!
mr Sag`s Venus is semisextile my Sun within a minute of orb.

In a natal the semisextile might offer a bit of a release point, or well maybe release is the wrong expression, maybe it`s more like a step in growth, an insight that helps gaining a different perspective.

I am just thinking about Mr Sag`s own Sun semisextile his Venus, and while his Sun is squared by Saturn, his Venus is tightly trined by his Saturn. The Venus in this picture might be apt to bring a bit of, I donīt know, smoothen out the edges maybe.


I think semisextiles are important, they keep popping up in famous synastries, between major planets, but I'm not quite sure yet how to define them.

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posted April 17, 2014 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Well you obviously werenīt around back in the day, but he is not the only one I have analyzed.... thoroughly.

Right, Jude and maybe someone else. I won't blame you for multitasking But that doesn't change the fact you Mr. Sag is on your mind every day, many times a day.

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:


my Priapus-Venus: 8.30 Virgo
his Priapus-Mars: 7.44 Virgo


I rest my case. lol


EDIT
oh my natal Venus: 6.07 Capricorn
his natal Mars: 11.01 Virgo


You see? ^^

quote:
Originally posted by Tulipe:
Oops, I see that Cappy means Priapus comparison in synastry then. I just compared it with my natal chart, POF conjunct my ASC exact, and that's all.


No, I didn't mean synastry, it's just Ceri's obsession


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So, Cappy, what do you desperately want in life? That gorgeous man behind the pot?

If you want to know you have to figure it out by yourelf

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posted April 17, 2014 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
If you want to know you have to figure it out by yourelf


hahaha you're so shrewd...maybe tomorrow :tongue:

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posted April 18, 2014 05:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is our Priapus (h21) vs. Lilit (h22) Persona comparison, for "BML meeting Priapus" archetype - the compulsion to merge.

Woman inside (Lilit)/man outside (Priapus)

What I like in this synastry is that the woman (Lilit - the Sun) is exactly on man's Lilit/Lilith/Psyche, while the man's Sun/Priapus is exactly on the woman's Priapus and how they oppose each other. It's not a bad idea to do some "merging" with this one , see how accurate astrology is.

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