posted April 27, 2014 09:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Leeloo, I ask because with 2 degree 01 minute, I look at the Sabian of 3 degree. Maybe I'm going at it all wrong, from now on I'll look out for the 2 Sabians to find the consistency.

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Tulipe, for Sabians you're supposed to round it up to the next degree.

posted April 27, 2014 09:22 AM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
vintagesoul, these synastries are between what and what? And what do you mean by "helping" the person?

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posted April 27, 2014 09:25 AM            

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Leeloo, I ask because with 2 degree 01 minute, I look at the Sabian of 3 degree. Maybe I'm going at it all wrong, from now on I'll look out for the 2 Sabians to find the consistency. Thanks for the tips .

Vintagesoul, it's the synastry between what charts?

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posted April 27, 2014 10:47 AM            

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Originally posted by page one:
Tulipe, for Sabians you're supposed to round it up to the next degree.

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Yes, Tulipe, page one is right, this is the general method. I usually look at both of them, but that's just me, I look at both like moving from this to that. But maybe it is more confusing like this.

posted April 27, 2014 10:51 AM            

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Originally posted by vintagesoul:
Oh I'm sorry, this is for LeeLoo also. The first chart is synastry between persona Chiron and persona true node. The second is, persona Juno and persona Jupiter

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Hi, vintagesoul, I'll look at the charts and tell you what I see, but I'd like to know: do you have any particular reason for choosing Chiron Persona against True Node Persona?

posted April 27, 2014 12:05 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Hi, vintagesoul, I'll look at the charts and tell you what I see, but I'd like to know: do you have any particular reason for choosing Chiron Persona against True Node Persona?

And I assume Persona Juno is you, and Persona Jupiter is him (the Venus in Taurus guy?)

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posted April 27, 2014 12:16 PM            

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Originally posted by vintagesoul:
Hi LeeLoo, thank you for taking a look. Yes, Persona Juno is me and Persona Jupiter is him. I chose Chiron because for some reason it just resonated with me. True node, I'm not sure, it was instinctual. What is the value of true node besides the regular stuff they tell you when you look it up? Thank you, again.

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posted April 27, 2014 01:02 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
vintagesoul, I need to know who's inside, who's outside for both charts, who's the woman, who's the man, who's Chiron, who's Node etc. for example: inside Chiron woman - outside Node man, inside woman Juno- outside man Jupiter

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posted April 27, 2014 01:14 PM            

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Originally posted by vintagesoul:
LeeLoo, you have it exactly right with the example you gave me. The woman is on the inside, man on the outside for both.

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Vintagesoul, c'mon... I have no way of telling who's Chiron, who's the Node, it's not apparent from Persona charts. I understand for the second synastry the woman is Juno(inside), man Jupiter (outside). But if you want me to look at the first synastry, you have to tell me who's who and what's what. That's why it's a good idea to write from the start, when posting the image, these important "details".

Also, you must have a reason for comparing Chiron and NN. Is Chiron a key planet in your/his chart? What is Chiron to you? What is your motivation for this comparison?

posted April 27, 2014 01:45 PM            

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Originally posted by MorpHnStorM:

[b]Valentine/Natal
Him/Me
AC conj. AC (1)
MC conj. MC (exact)
Vx conj. Vx (2)
IC conj. Moon (2)
Sun conj. Moon (4)
SNode-Lilith conj. Ceres (exact)
MC conj. Pallas-Lilith (exact)
Psyche conj. Mars (exact) opp Sun (1)
Unitas conj. Alma (1)
Alma-Uranus opp. Psyche (1)

Me/Him
Sun conj. Pluto (2)
Sun conj. Sun (5)
Moon trine Moon
Mercury conj. DC (exact)
Venus conj. Vertex-Valentine (2)
Union conj. Vertex-Valentine (exact)
Ceres conj. Mars (1)
Angel conj. Sun-Juno and Pluto (2)
Psyche conj. Pholus, opp Union (exact)
Alma conj. Alma-Amor (2)

Valentine/Valentine
Him/Me
AC conj. Moon
Moon conj. IC (1)
Sun conj. Venus (2) and Union (1)
Mercury-Venus-Pluto-Pallas conj. Sun (3)
Pluto-Pallas conj. Node midpoint (exact)
Uranus-Alma-Union conj. Alma (1)
Valentine conj. Valentine (2)[/B]

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posted April 27, 2014 02:13 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

Vintagesoul, c'mon... I have no way of telling who's Chiron, who's the Node, it's not apparent from Persona charts. I understand for the second synastry the woman is Juno(inside), man Jupiter (outside). But if you want me to look at the first synastry, you have to tell me who's who and what's what. That's why it's a good idea to write from the start, when posting the image, these important "details".

Also, you must have a reason for comparing Chiron and NN. Is Chiron a key planet in your/his chart? What is Chiron to you? What is your motivation for this comparison?

Juno/Jupiter is easily understandable because it is a soulmate, archetypal pair.

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posted April 27, 2014 02:38 PM            

Sun/Moon DW, nice blending of male/female energies, unfortunately the connections are linked to Uranus, so if their Uranian energies are not well integrated, it could lead to a break up. But both people are Uranian, so...The woman wants an official relationship (Mercury, ruler of ASC on man's MC). I'm afraid the man could have clandestine relationships, his ASC ruler in 12th, conjunct the woman's Moon, so it's not impossible that your suspicions are correct. I would need to see a comparison between Juno/Juno Persona to see what kind of partner you are to him. Woman's Juno conjunct man's Mars: she is mainly attracted to him as a sexual partner. Man's Juno does not aspect woman's planets. Uranus ruler of man's MC, MC rulers not connected. Better put up Juno/Juno. (but tell me who's who)[/

His Juno on the outside, my juno on the inside

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His mars on the outside, my juno on the inside

posted April 27, 2014 02:46 PM            

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Originally posted by vintagesoul:
Yes I am Chiron (woman on the inside), man is true node on the outside. Chiron has been a key planet on all my charts (aspects most/all planets) and in synastry to his (aspects the planets).

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posted April 27, 2014 03:27 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
It is a good partnership comparison, between Juno and Juno. However, because of Sun falling in 12th, Sun square Neptune, his Moon in Scorpio (secretive, ruler of chart) opp your Moon, all involved in a Yod and no point opp his Saturn in the Moon/Moon/Saturn T-square, maybe you should check him more thoroughly, deceit/another woman is not impossible.

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posted April 27, 2014 03:34 PM            

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Originally posted by vintagesoul:

Or how about ending it all, cause I'm not good at or enjoy checking on, following behind people. I kind of did end things this weekend. I say kind of because it wasn't face to face. I want to stay with it (not give in, to only receive parts of a relationship) until and only if he becomes fully available. He's been trying to get in touch but I've been ignoring it 😩wah... I do want real love

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posted April 27, 2014 03:49 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
I am sorry to hear that, vintagesoul! Why do you say he's not "available"? Does he come only for sex? has he introduced you to his friends, his family? Do you have social activities together? If you did all these things, yet you still have that weird feeling, have you talked to him about your feeling that he is hiding something, to see his reaction?

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I haven't met anybody. It is basically a physical relationship. I don't even know if he'd be able to meet my other needs. Yes I have told him my feelings, he doesn't really respond with much, other than saying that he understands. He even threw in, "I'm trying to grow with you." But I'm not seeing it. He's even verbalized not wanting me to be with other people, cause I do spend quality time with colleagues from work. He said once, "there shouldn't be room for you to fall for anyone else when you're seeing someone (he's talking about himself" he caught me in one of my moods and I told something like, "you're right, that shouldn't happen, but we're not seeing each other, we're f****. If we were, I'd have more of your time, you'd be trying to spend more time with me, etc" He of course didn't have anything convincing to say in response, only something like, "I'm doing what I thought you want or I'm trying." Were you able to see what I mean to him? He tries to say that I do mean something but never able to say what. So of course I tell him, well I'm sure you can find someone else to f***. And he just shakes his head at me

posted April 27, 2014 04:14 PM            

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Originally posted by vintagesoul:
I haven't met anybody. It is basically a physical relationship. I don't even know if he'd be able to meet my other needs. Yes I have told him my feelings, he doesn't really respond with much, other than saying that he understands. He even threw in, "I'm trying to grow with you." But I'm not seeing it. He's even verbalized not wanting me to be with other people, cause I do spend quality time with colleagues from work. He said once, "there shouldn't be room for you to fall for anyone else when you're seeing someone (he's talking about himself" he caught me in one of my moods and I told something like, "you're right, that shouldn't happen, but we're not seeing each other, we're f****. If we were, I'd have more of your time, you'd be trying to spend more time with me, etc" He of course didn't have anything convincing to say in response, only something like, "I'm doing what I thought you want or I'm trying." Were you able to see what I mean to him? He tries to say that I do mean something but never able to say what. So of course I tell him, well I'm sure you can find someone else to f***. And he just shakes his head at me

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posted April 27, 2014 04:20 PM            

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Originally posted by vintagesoul:
But I'd be in complete denial if I said there haven't been "moments" of honest emotions felt, outsider just the physical. And a sense of just knowing there's some purpose of us knowing each other. It's just how the foundation of the relationship is built and where the substance seems to be goes against my moral values, I guess. Why it feels, challenging.

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posted April 27, 2014 04:55 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

Hey, vintage, I can see from the charts, he does care about you. But if you want this relationship to be more than a physical one, I guess you have to tell him you want to do other things with him, make some propositions, invite him to go out, see some friends together, other social situations (barbecue, movies, exhibitions etc, whatever you like). You don't have to ask this from him, you can invite him yourself, for example you can throw a party and invite him too.

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posted April 27, 2014 04:58 PM            

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Originally posted by vintagesoul:
Thanks LeeLoo. If I do nothing, keep ignoring him, I wonder if he'll just go away ? My internalization tells me that there's pain, for me, involved with knowing him, and I don't know about that, y'know? I'm the type of person who likes to know the role I have in any given situation and it'd be nice to know what that is with him. If I knew that, I could better decide, if it's something I'd like to move forward with. If it's just physical, I know I won't be able to handle being that person for him.

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posted April 27, 2014 05:45 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Yes, but you don't have to wait for someone to "assign" a role to you. You can show him what role you want to play by proposing to him the things you want to do If he doesn't like it, so be it, his loss, you move away.

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