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LeeLoo2014
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posted April 19, 2014 04:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
If you want to know you have to figure it out by yourelf


Kite: Eros Psyche Amor water trine. Apex: NN. Isn't that obvious?

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Tulipe
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posted April 19, 2014 04:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And a Yod of Moon/ASC sextile Saturn, Priapus in 7th at the apex near Sun


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posted April 19, 2014 06:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I think I should stop including love asteroids
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posted April 24, 2014 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BTW, have you tried to visually identify what appears to be your strongest Persona in Nine Persona Charts in astrodienst?

I mean the one that has regular patterns or the richest number of aspects. It should be apparent just by looking at the charts.

I've found my most interesting Persona is Jupiter. And Jupiter is the "key" planet of my natal chart: apex of my Fan (my natal chart is a Fan comprising all the planets, Sun/Venus opp Jupiter), at the same time apex of my Yod (the "core" of the Fan) and ruler of my NN.

In my Jupiter Persona chart, the patterns are compelling and there is a significant number of aspects. The ruler of the chart, Saturn, is also the ruler of my natal chart and it is the apex of a Yod, released on the ASC.

Here is my Jupiter Persona:

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Tulipe
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posted April 24, 2014 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks like electromagnetic waves with Saturn the magnet. Also a Grand Cross with ASC, Grand Trine with MC. Very beautiful chart, Leeloo!

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posted April 24, 2014 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Looks like electromagnetic waves with Saturn the magnet. Also a Grand Cross with ASC, Grand Trine with MC. Very beautiful chart, Leeloo!



Hi, Tulipe, you are a visionary, as usually, yes it is beautiful, isn't it? As if everything blooms from Saturn. And it is amazing it tells the same story as the natal.

What about you? What planet sticks out in Nine Persona?

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posted April 24, 2014 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You definitely have a story line to your charts. My nine persona charts look quite messy, nothing beautiful like yours . The strongest was Jupiter and Neptune. When I add aspect lines, Saturn persona stood out. It's quite difficult for me to choose which one is messier lol.

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posted April 24, 2014 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure. Maybe my Saturn persona.

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posted April 24, 2014 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Tulipe:
You definitely have a story line to your charts. My nine persona charts look quite messy, nothing beautiful like yours . The strongest was Jupiter and Neptune. When I add aspect lines, Saturn persona stood out. It's quite difficult for me to choose which one is messier lol.


You can post the whole picture (Nine Personas) and we can look. But not with "aspect lines to all", especially if you have asteroids.

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posted April 24, 2014 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sorry, they're very small.


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posted April 24, 2014 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I'm not sure. Maybe my Saturn persona.


Cappy, can you post your chart? I really like to look, since I'm a voyeur

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posted April 24, 2014 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Even your Saturn sabian is beautiful: A Hand With A Prominent Thumb Is Held Out For Study.

Keynote: The power of the will in shaping character.

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posted April 24, 2014 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn

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posted April 24, 2014 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Tulipe:
I'm sorry, they're very small.



No, it's OK. Apparently there was a Wedge around the time of your birth, a repeating theme in the charts, also called the Ambivalence Triangle. Some reference here, but you can look for more:
http://joycehopewell.blogspot.ro/2008/12/aspect-pattern-astrology-ambivalence.html

The Jupiter Persona is indeed interesting, with the perfect sextile of the Yod. I'd say a hidden fortune related to love or Venus, anyway: Venus conjunct Jupiter, 7th and 5th involved, and that perfect Mars opposition. Also check what is on 12-14 Gemini. BTW, isn't your natal Sun the release point of this Yod? Also I remember your Jupiter is in the 7th house and in mutual reception with your Sun.

And interesting connection between the NN at 0 Pisces/MC in Pisces and the 12th house theme.

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posted April 24, 2014 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oops, Cappy, sorry, I know I've seen your chart before and I thought it would be a fantastic composite chart. Except Mars, so much focus energy and no way to release it.

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posted April 24, 2014 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Even your Saturn sabian is beautiful: A Hand With A Prominent Thumb Is Held Out For Study.

Keynote:[b] The power of the will in shaping character.

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Merci It goes well with Jupiter conjunct Psyche, I guess something must happen inside first

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posted April 24, 2014 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Oops, Cappy, sorry, I know I've seen your chart before and I thought it would be a fantastic composite chart.

Wait, you wanted to see my natal chart and do our composite?

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posted April 24, 2014 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:


Mars is still the strongest ... no escape, Cappy, no escape...

But from your Persona charts, I see a lot of prominent Pluto, you will have some position of power at some point, although the Pluto Persona is not very revealing.

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posted April 24, 2014 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But I have nothing to escape from

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you will have some position of power at some point

Pluto is my water singleton btw.

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posted April 24, 2014 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Leeloo, I didn't know it has a name. The charts just look wretchedly similar .

My Sun/Mercury 9 SAG, 3 degrees from the release point. I can't find something on 12-14 Gem, only Pholus 11 GEM, 2nd/8th axis 12 GEM/12 SAG.

Jupiter in my chart is really sensitive, Retro at 29 Taurus pretty much unaspected, conjunct Angel on Alcyone. Maybe it has something to do with spiritual development, or money making.

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posted April 24, 2014 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought your Saturn Persona chart would be a good composite ^^, but your idea is interesting, I bet we have some squares lol.


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posted April 24, 2014 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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But I have nothing to escape from


Uhh, maybe yourself?

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posted April 24, 2014 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Shhh!

Anyway, a persona chart isn't a composite. It's a chart for the moment when the Sun appeared in the exact position of the particular planet in your chart, after your birth.

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posted April 24, 2014 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know ^^. Not to sound corny, but I missed you too.

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