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I'm so cappy
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posted April 08, 2014 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Very stable feelings when in love. And sensual.

Btw, I have a Libra Moon in the 2nd house. Isn't it interesting?

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posted April 08, 2014 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Damn...


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posted April 08, 2014 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
This doesn't seem like a relationship for the faint of heart to me. Plutonic and "Uranian". Do you have a Pluto theme in the synastry?

Which is why we're probably not in a relationship lol. Some recent events spurred up some rather possessive feelings that aren't in character with mh airy venus. Pluto isnt for the faint of heart. Normal natal synastry seems pretty plutonic:under 3 orbs
My psyche sq his eros
Eros sq eros exact
valentine opp pluto and pluto conjunct valentine.
My Proserpina (26) conjunct his Venus
His Pluto opp my Mars
My pluto trine his venus
My Proserpina (h57) sq his mars
His Proserpina (h57) opp my mars
My Proserpina (h57) conjunct his Pluto exact
Mars opp NN
Venus opp Saturn
Asc sq lust/eros exact


Saving grace softer aspects
Sun conjunct sun 1
Sun conjunct venus wide
Venus conjunct jupiter
Sun conjunct jupiter
Cupido conjunct union.
Amor conjunct Venus exact

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posted April 08, 2014 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Yesss! Ceri will persuade him to agree for the good of science and let's see what's next


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posted April 08, 2014 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Ceri, I think you should talk to this man, maybe tell him your hobby is astrology and that you want to write an article or something about certain planets and performers, ask him if he wants to take part. But many people don't react well to astrology, so before you do that, you should try to find out what he thinks about it.

Ouch, reminds me of how I messed this chance up so thoroughly.

Actually it is what I did some years ago, similiar to that actually, and BEFORE I realized that I was attracted to him.

I met him 5 years ago; that was when I asked him about his birthtime, and I also offered to do a horoscope for him. I am not kidding. 5 minutes into meeting him I was saying that. lol
On the other hand he was the one who had been sniffing around my hair, persisting he was smelling a particular fragrance and didn`t quite believe me when I repeatedly assured him that whatever he thought he was sensing there, it wasn`t me. Or me wearing that fragrance. did I mention this meeting was REALLY bizarre? At least in my small world these things do not happen thta often. lol

But anyway, I said that, and he seemed to be surprisingly open and interested (and I did not know him at all, did not know how he would react, but it was one of these rare times when I did not quite *think* or base my actions on something that could be termed reason. No clue what was holding the reigns).

Anyway fast forward, after I survived that night (I felt so electrocuted afterwards, I mean I really thought I was having a stroke, and that was when the weird paranormal phenomenons started as well - I suppos a huge Kundalini Rising took place then), and after I did survive the encounter, the night and the whole trip, pretty much every single feeling of inferiority and insecurity and every bad memory painful experiences in a social context came back to me, like steamrolling over me all at once.

And I sort of ran. Of course I was telling myself that by that strange encounter I had finished all Karma there might have been involved, and I could move on now, back into my little world, back to hiding my head in the sand, back into my intellectual ivory tower, and it didn`T matter anyway. Not to him.

Well, I eventually DID make a horoscope for him, but instead of handing *** to him in person, I chose to send it over email.
You wouldn`t believe I am an astrologer, I sent it during Mercury RETROGRADE. D īoh!

First thing that happened was that my email server crashed and I had to get a new email.
Second thing I realized was that his website had crashed to.

So I do not even know if he ever got the horoscope. And if he - unlikely as it may be- wanted to reach me, maybe just to say he got it or I don`t know, he wouldnīt have been able to, for my email address was gone by then. And if he didn`t care, well, I`ll never know.


My reaction was typical for me, I rationalized it away, I disappeared, swearing I would NEVER see that man again, anywhere. Well, I kept my word for 2 years (and it were difficult troublesome 2 years, I even fell sick with something that could never be really diagnosed. More symptoms than real sickness, but the symptoms were real, and nasty. Luckily they have been gone now for the last 3 years, pretty much since the day I made a reappearance in his life. So much for: all karma is finished. *sighs* ).


So I did eventually reappear, actually at his very first solo concert, he was giving in a small tavern. But well I was certain he would not remember me. Because I do not think I am all that memorable, and he is meeting a lot of people I suppose.

And I tried to hide a little, namely wanting to visit the toilet upstairs, as I like to hide on toilets. LOL Kidding.
Naturally I passed him on my way up the stairs, and it was him who stopped and was giving me this warmest of smiles and a greeting, like, I donīt know, as rare as this is, when we acknowledge each other, he gives me a feeling, as if we had been in constant contact. There is such a familiarity there, Ihave to deliberately remind myself we are just strangers.

But I suppose he would have been that nice to just anyone, and no I donīt think he really rememberd me.

And so the story went on and on and on.
Actually the year after that he even came to me during a show, trying to lure me into participating in some sort of game, though I am sure he knew I would never do that. Maybe he just wanted to tease me and liked to see me squirm inwardly. LOL

He always surprises me. But it was just, I don`t know, he is an entertainer, so he entertains. Part of the show, I suppose. And coincidentally I was chosen as victim that night. lol

The year after that things got really complicated for me, as I simply did not know how to act around him, if to react at all. Everything just so vague and I don`t know confusing. So I did what I always do in these cases. nothing. Just in this case it was a silly thing to do.


But I don`t want to make this story even more longer, just saying the option with the scientific approach would have been a good one, just I had tried it before, and messed it up.


Actually that was one of the reasons I approached him last november to at least tell him I enjoyed the show. I donīt want this weird elusive game going on and on. I had manoevered myself into a weird corner, and I figured it is up to me to change the mode of interaction or non-interaction, at least to the degree I can change it.
I am trying to be more relaxed about it, and not try to think for him. I am busy enough managing my own thoughts.

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Knowflake

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posted April 08, 2014 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

What if he offered you to hang out?

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posted April 08, 2014 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just found this emoticon

Well but honestly I take each day as it comes, and try not to think too much, about WHAT IF. Too many of these in my past, I have had my fill I think.

I don`t think it is likely though, but if he did, well, I will let you know what I said.

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posted April 08, 2014 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ail221:
Which is why we're probably not in a relationship lol. Some recent events spurred up some rather possessive feelings that aren't in character with mh airy venus. Pluto isnt for the faint of heart. Normal natal synastry seems pretty plutonic:under 3 orbs
My psyche sq his eros
Eros sq eros exact
valentine opp pluto and pluto conjunct valentine.
My Proserpina (26) conjunct his Venus
His Pluto opp my Mars
My pluto trine his venus
My Proserpina (h57) sq his mars
His Proserpina (h57) opp my mars
My Proserpina (h57) conjunct his Pluto exact
Mars opp NN
Venus opp Saturn
Asc sq lust/eros exact


Saving grace softer aspects
Sun conjunct sun 1
Sun conjunct venus wide
Venus conjunct jupiter
Sun conjunct jupiter
Cupido conjunct union.
Amor conjunct Venus exact


HOly Moly, so much Pluto

Love the Jupiter conjunctions and the Venus-Amor though. With so much passion and intensity, it seems lovely to have the sweetness of these, too.

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posted April 08, 2014 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you run away again I'm gonna spank you ^^

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Some recent events spurred up some rather possessive feelings that aren't in character with mh airy venus. Pluto isnt for the faint of heart.

I'm glad I don't have Gemini Venus

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posted April 08, 2014 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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If you run away again I'm gonna spank you ^^


Yeah, that is what I need!

No running away anymore, I promised myself. But you know old habits


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posted April 08, 2014 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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HOly Moly, so much Pluto

Love the Jupiter conjunctions and the Venus-Amor though. With so much passion and intensity, it seems lovely to have the sweetness of these, too.



Yup too much pluto. I often feel that the intensity of plutonic relationships or at least excess energy often halts the progression of relationships into something more especially when factoring in the influence of lilith and priapus.

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posted April 08, 2014 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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If you run away again I'm gonna spank you ^^

[QUOTE]Some recent events spurred up some rather possessive feelings that aren't in character with mh airy venus. Pluto isnt for the faint of heart.



I'm glad I don't have Gemini Venus

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Good, I am glad you dont have one either.

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posted April 09, 2014 06:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ceridwen:
[b] HOly Moly, so much Pluto

Love the Jupiter conjunctions and the Venus-Amor though. With so much passion and intensity, it seems lovely to have the sweetness of these, too.



Yup too much pluto. I often feel that the intensity of plutonic relationships or at least excess energy often halts the progression of relationships into something more especially when factoring in the influence of lilith and priapus.

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Interesting. But I guess it all depends on how they integrate Pluto in their natal chart, if they love intensity and how they embrace transformation. Pluto relationships force you to transform (depending on the aspects and houses activated in synastry and composite) in order to be in that relationship.

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posted April 09, 2014 06:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All of my relationship are heavy on the Pluto with very Plutonian people.

Well said, LeeLoo.

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posted April 09, 2014 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

Aww, thank you, Ceri, it is such a nice compliment coming from you, I think you are an awesome astrologer.



Thank you.

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posted April 09, 2014 07:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leeloo,


" (Moon, ruler of MC, on ASC)"
Interestingly I have that in my JUNO chart, too. Moon is on 24 Cap conjunct ASC on 25 Cap. Of course in the JUNO chart it means that the DESC-ruler is on the ASC.
And incidentally Mr Sags natal Venus is on 25 Cap and his natal JUNO on 27 Cancer.

"Eros/Valentine/Lust in Capricorn 4th. 4th is like the heart of the matter."
that one stays close together in a lot of Persona chart, though falling into different houses.

in NN-Persona also in 4th house, btw one my NN-persona looks INTENSE


JUNO conjunct ASC on 13 and 15 Virgo

quadruple conjunction of Sun-Moon-Neptune-Mercury from 9-12 Sag, focused on IC on 10 sag


in ASC-Persona the Eros/Val/Lust falls into 5th house

Neptune Persona has it in 6th house
Lust Persona has it in 10th house

Amor Persona has it in 4th house again

Valentine Persona: in 11th house

Angel Persona has it in 1st house

Atlantis Persona: in 3rd house

Groom Persona: in 12th house

Ireland persona: in 5th house


"Your "Mars" chart is happy too, Ceri: Jupiter in 7th, vertex conjunct DSC. "
I love a happy mars-chart. lol


"Interestingly though, Sagittarius intercepted - so there's some interception needing activation. "
Yes, though in my natal I have Pisces intercepted in 3rd house, with Jupiter in there in pisces, and it is a pretty active Jupiter.


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posted April 09, 2014 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's with the Ireland Persona?
Are you Irish?

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posted April 09, 2014 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nope. But IRELAND is exactly conjunct my Mars in 12th house, 2 degrees before the ASC. Mars traditionally rules 12th house cusp (Scorpio) and rules IC (Aries).

Plus I remember how I was standing on board of the ferry when we approached Ireland, just in the wee hours of morning (very interesting feeling being on sea during the night. Everything is so pitchblack and endless around).
I was having this strong feeling of, I don`t know, anticipation?
Putting my foot onto Irish soil, it strangely felt like coming home.
Apparently Ireland returned the feeling, for I have been so often approached there in Gaelic (which I do not understand though on some level I feel I should. It rings very familiar in my ears). I suppose I must look a little celtic.

Actually my best friend who is half-Irish used to joke about how I seem to have more of an Irish/celtic-feel to me than she does, and whenever she feels the need to tap into her Irishness, especially the more mystical side of it, she has to come to me, cause I am the only one who understands, and actually understand that side of life better than she does.

I remember she once told me about having been to a small church in a small Irish town, when she needed guidance, but a few days later when she anted to thank the priest there for offering her comfort, not only did she not find the priest anymore, but there was actually no church. There once had been one, but that had been many many many generations ago. Basically the church just had disappeared, like Brigadoon (you know the film with Gene KElley) - and no she did not simply not remember or got geographically lost.

And I simply nodded my head, not even surprised, and mumbling something liek: "Yeah, that stuff tends to happen."
lol
As if that really was natural, but it felt like it was.

I myself had been talking to a woman while sitting on a rock and looking out onto the Atlantic ocean,ho then simply disappeared. No she did not just leave. She disappeared.
After she left, I was leaving, too, into the same direction, not even 5 minutes after her, and there was just fields around, open range, and a few cows and sheeps. But when I reached the field, just 5 minutes later, she was simply gone. No houses, no wood, nothing but the grass before me and the ocean behind me, and she was nowwhere to be seen.
But yeah that stuff happens. At least in Ireland it does. lol


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posted April 09, 2014 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi y'all, I'm back ^^
What do you think about my Eros persona?

And Reiki? I'm very interested in it.

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posted April 09, 2014 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Eros-one looks rather intense. All these planets in Scorpio, with Sun and Mars angular and ruling angular houses as well.

Reiki is interesting, too with the line up in 12th house. Also Chiron often can also relate to healing with the hands, so it makes sense I suppose.

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posted April 09, 2014 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks. I think my Chiron persona is even complimentary...

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posted April 09, 2014 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What a beautiful description, Ceri, of your relationship with Ireland! I loved that part about the church and the mystery woman. I too have had such recollections while traveling to certain places.

Maybe your man is Irish (Mars conjunct Ireland on ASC/DSC, karmic Mars in the 12th).

Speaking of performers, what about Michael Fassbender? He is half German, half Irish. Doesn't he ring any bell for you?

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posted April 09, 2014 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fassbender seems kinda shady to me.

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posted April 09, 2014 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Fassbender seems kinda shady to me.


Shady? In what sense?

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