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I'm so cappy
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posted April 09, 2014 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isn't he an alcoholic?

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LeeLoo2014
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posted April 09, 2014 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Isn't he an alcoholic?


No. He's just Irish.

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Delilah423
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posted April 09, 2014 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So many chart types, so little time.

I know how to do a Persona chart on astro.com, but am I correct that I'd have to do the comparisons manually (or own some other software to do it?)

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posted April 09, 2014 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Delilah423:
So many chart types, so little time.

I know how to do a Persona chart on astro.com, but am I correct that I'd have to do the comparisons manually (or own some other software to do it?)


No, I don't think so, you'll have to do it visually and manually.

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I'm so cappy
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posted April 09, 2014 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can generate persona charts like natal charts and then do a synastry. Use the red dates and times.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted April 09, 2014 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
You can generate persona charts like natal charts and then do a synastry. Use the red dates and times.


Cappy, you're right. And smart

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posted April 09, 2014 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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ail221
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posted April 09, 2014 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Delilah423:
So many chart types, so little time.

I know how to do a Persona chart on astro.com, but am I correct that I'd have to do the comparisons manually (or own some other software to do it?)


You can look up the time and date of the object you want to make a persona chart to compare with another chart. It makes things a lot easier.

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Delilah423
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posted April 09, 2014 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
You can generate persona charts like natal charts and then do a synastry. Use the red dates and times.


Oh, that's right. I've done that before with other types of charts. Duh.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted April 09, 2014 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Btw, I have a Libra Moon in the 2nd house. Isn't it interesting?



Yes, I think so, your Taurus/Venusian theme from the Moon chart repeats itself in the natal.

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posted April 09, 2014 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
What a beautiful description, Ceri, of your relationship with Ireland! I loved that part about the church and the mystery woman. I too have had such recollections while traveling to certain places.

Maybe your man is Irish (Mars conjunct Ireland on ASC/DSC, karmic Mars in the 12th).

Speaking of performers, what about Michael Fassbender? He is half German, half Irish. Doesn't he ring any bell for you?


Nah, not really. Mr Fassbender I mean.


Curiously though Mr Sag has his IRELAND on 3 Sag conjunct my IRELAND and Mars, both on 5 Sag. and in composite asteroid GUINEVERE is conjunct it as well (you know she was Irish, right? ).

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posted April 10, 2014 07:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is the synastry of my MARS-Persona with his VENUS-Persona.

role reversal?

(interestingly it is my Sun who is conjunct his Moon, not the other way round, too)


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posted April 10, 2014 07:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, this is some intense **** .

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posted April 10, 2014 07:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I thought so.

Just usually we compare the female Venus-persona with male Mars-persona. What does the reverse indicate?
Animus/Anima-projection? And if so how to interprete it?

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Selene
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posted April 10, 2014 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, astro.com now allows to do something better!!!!

Just generate a persona chart, then press "add this data to my astro", and that's it. It allows you to do REAL synastry between these persona charts without even bothering.

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posted April 10, 2014 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Selene:
No, astro.com now allows to do something better!!!!

Just generate a persona chart, then press "add this data to my astro", and that's it. It allows you to do REAL synastry between these persona charts without even bothering.


how cool is that?

thank you

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posted April 10, 2014 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yes, I thought so.

Just usually we compare the female Venus-persona with male Mars-persona. What does the reverse indicate?
Animus/Anima-projection? And if so how to interprete it?


Traditionally, your Mars Persona would be your "type", his Venus Persona, his "type". However, although I included it in the OP, I've found so far that our "type" is much more complex than Mars for the woman and Venus for the man.

Nevertheless, for this archetype I recommend natal/venus and natal/mars comparisons. (your natal/his venus, his natal/your mars)

Maybe it does trigger your type, on a very primal level, that animus/anima you are talking about (although I'd connect that more with Sun and Moon than Venus/Mars)

I think a woman Mars Persona with a man Venus Persona will show how or what he loves about her body type and energy/sexuality/drive, how her mere presence and sexuality triggers his love, admiration, is to his taste, finds beautiful. On the other hand, it would show how the woman feels sexy and admired, what turns her on in his style of loving, how she stokes the fire of his love with her "physical" presence and actions.

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posted April 10, 2014 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leeloo, I take it if he/she is not their interest's type, then the charts would be scatter with very few aspects? If there are Sun/Moon, Venus/Mars aspects, Angles conjunct but also hard aspects from Saturn and outer planets, do you think it'd diminish the attraction?

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posted April 10, 2014 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Leeloo, I take it if he/she is not their interest's type, then the charts would be scatter with very few aspects? If there are Sun/Moon, Venus/Mars aspects, Angles conjunct but also hard aspects from Saturn and outer planets, do you think it'd diminish the attraction?


It's hard to generalize about Saturn and the outer planets. It depends on the specific role the outer planet plays in the Persona chart, because it could actually enhance rather then diminish the attraction, IMO.

And Saturn on angles could mean long lasting attraction. If, for example, the man has Mars conjunct Saturn in his Venus chart and the woman puts her Venus there, I don't think Saturn diminishes the attraction.

Or, let's say the woman has a Mars opp.Neptune in her Mars Persona chart (idealizing a certain type of men, depending on house/sign/ruler etc.) and a man puts his Mars or Venus chart Sun there...he might as well be her ideal man.

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posted April 10, 2014 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Leeloo, so it is as I thought, depends on the persona chart.

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posted April 10, 2014 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I checked all my planetary personas and I have 4 Taurus Moons O_o

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posted April 10, 2014 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I checked all my planetary personas and I have 4 Taurus Moons O_o


Well, then you must change your name to "I'm so full of Bull" hehehe

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posted April 10, 2014 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL
My Taurus Mars approves.

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posted April 10, 2014 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Persona charts are definitely really interesting to work with. I believe they can add a lot more information and depth but they are not easy to interpret.

Has anyone tried the draconic persona charts? You can store the data of your persona chart on astro.com and then get the draco placements of the chart. I've been experimenting withs ome of these lately and the results are quite interesting .. though to be honest I wouldn't know how to read those.

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posted April 10, 2014 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wouldn't it be taken too far? I did one draco persona and now I don't know what to do with it.

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