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LeeLoo2014
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posted April 27, 2014 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What kind of partner are you? Put up some Juno Persona charts

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posted April 27, 2014 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my juno chart

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Mr Sags juno chart

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posted April 28, 2014 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vintagesoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What kind of partner are you? Put up some Juno Persona charts

LeeLoo, can I send you a synastry chart between two personas that I found interesting but I'm not sure why. I do feel bad, giving you so much, so I totally understand if you ask me to wait a few days, weeks, months 😜

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posted April 28, 2014 03:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But doesn't Juno symbolize our partner?

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posted April 28, 2014 06:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ceri, welcome back. How was your trip?
Your journey as a Juno partner seems quite rocky, full of transformation and discovery, and spiritually devoted. I can't wait for Leeloo's take on your charts.

@Cappy: it is said that Juno is how we women are as a partner. You seem quite the Hera. Mercury MC and ASC ruler on IC, square by Jupiter IC ruler on ASC. Hey, you prefer to keep your devotion in private but people will see through that. Jupiter on ASC could mean that your partner will be someone you're proud of. Mercury sextile Saturn/Eros in 5th. You're naughtier than we thought. Speaking of naughty girl, your Priapus form a Mystic Rectangle with Uranus dispositor of Saturn/Neptune DSC ruler, DSC/Amor and ASC/Jupiter. Marry or not, you will partner up. Wait, not only a Rectangle but a Castle with Venus/Pluto on top. You're queen of your own domain, a dominatrix kind of queen. With Priapus there your king will be willing to be a slave for you, although in this case we can call him the unsuspected victim.

@Leeloo, you're so sweet. If I find a new obsession, I may have to ask for your advice. Now, I discovered Cappy's ASC is right in between my Moon/South Node and your Venus. Tsk, tsk, love triangle for sure.

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posted April 28, 2014 06:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Juno persona and Valentine persona are only days from each other .

Look at that Mercury MC and also ASC ruler, and conjunct Juno in a Cross with Jupiter IC ruler, Uranus North Node ruler and Priapus. Hey, Cappy, I used to be a 24 yo virgin, it was worth the wait . Cardinal Cross between Venus, Vertex/Pallas, Chiron and Neptune DSC ruler. Funny this Venus - Vertex is on my natal Vertex/Osiris - AVx, my partner is fated then. Hmm, but Pluto/Groom opposite Amor/Briede in a T-square with Moira seems like the star-crossed story , couple with the singleton Fire Moon unaspected and being buried in 12th, ruler of 11th house of wishes and dreams. Ouch. My fairy tale has a vicious twist. The dispositor of Moon, the Sun is also in 12th, double ouch. But POF is near and the Wedge with Jupiter and Saturn/Neptune may still help me make my family dream come true.

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posted April 28, 2014 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vintagesoul:
LeeLoo, can I send you a synastry chart between two personas that I found interesting but I'm not sure why. I do feel bad, giving you so much, so I totally understand if you ask me to wait a few days, weeks, months 😜

OK, put it up, but that's it LOL

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posted April 28, 2014 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, Ceri, how are you?

What a huge 7th house, Tulipe is right, you are a very devoted partner, ruler of DSC right on ASC and in Cap. I'm sure you must have seen everything I'm babbling here, but I tell you what I see. Some pain, that Moon square by Chiron/Juno. But Jupiter/Psyche heals the Moon: you are a strong, happy soul. Jupiter/Neptune ruler of Jupiter house in mutual reception. Mutual reception ASC, DSC ruler, interesting pairing of Moon/Saturn as a theme. Saturn trine Union and Sun: maybe a marriage later in life? based on the Moon in Cap and the Moon/Saturn theme. Happy union, Sun conjunct POF square Karma and Valentine. Wow look at that, you have two intercepted axes. Mars and the DSC should tell us something about the man: hey, Aquarius, if I remember correctly, there was some Aquarius man in your cards Mars conjunct Amor opp Eros square Uranus/Union and Alma, Mars sextile NN: a soulmate who will hit you like lightning. Fixed cross, he is there, no doubt. Ruler of vertex also in Aquarius, vertex in 7th, some movement/travel involved.

Mr Sag

Kinda of a recluse as a partner, Sun, ruler of ASC in 12th. If he is not a bachelor, he is one in his heart. Sun square Moon/Union. But something, someone gets him out of his den: look at that POF/Uranus/Valentine, Uranus ruler of DSC, quincunx Venus, disp. of Sun and Moon. Hits him in the heart, a Neptunian girl. POF/Uranus midpoint for Pluto, ruler of IC and Neptune, ruler of 8th, opp. Chiron.Again, later in life, the Saturn square, and he will be committed, mercury conjunct Vesta. Interestingly, almost everything is on the left side of the Venus/Neptune opposition, like a border. I wonder what that means. to have all aspects in that first half of the chart. he is a charming, flexible partner, Venus in Gemini, Moon Mars in Libra, shyer than he appears (ASC in Leo, but Sun in Cancer)

Interestingly, he cuts through the core of both your Juno interceptions.

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posted April 28, 2014 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Juno

His Juno

I love his Juno isn't it cute?

OK, let's see what kind of wifey Queen Cappy is.

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posted April 28, 2014 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Hi, Ceri, how are you?

What a huge 7th house, Tulipe is right, you are a very devoted partner, ruler of DSC right on ASC and in Cap. I'm sure you must have seen everything I'm babbling here, but I tell you what I see. Some pain, that Moon square by Chiron/Juno. But Jupiter/Psyche heals the Moon: you are a strong, happy soul. Jupiter/Neptune ruler of Jupiter house in mutual reception. Mutual reception ASC, DSC ruler, interesting pairing of Moon/Saturn as a theme. Saturn trine Union and Sun: maybe a marriage later in life? based on the Moon in Cap and the Moon/Saturn theme. Happy union, Sun conjunct POF square Karma and Valentine. Wow look at that, you have two intercepted axes. Mars and the DSC should tell us something about the man: hey, Aquarius, if I remember correctly, there was some Aquarius man in your cards Mars conjunct Amor opp Eros square Uranus/Union and Alma, Mars sextile NN: a soulmate who will hit you like lightning. Fixed cross, he is there, no doubt. Ruler of vertex also in Aquarius, vertex in 7th, some movement/travel involved.

Mr Sag

Kinda of a recluse as a partner, Sun, ruler of ASC in 12th. If he is not a bachelor, he is one in his heart. Sun square Moon/Union. But something, someone gets him out of his den: look at that POF/Uranus/Valentine, Uranus ruler of DSC, quincunx Venus, disp. of Sun and Moon. Hits him in the heart, a Neptunian girl. POF/Uranus midpoint for Pluto, ruler of IC and Neptune, ruler of 8th, opp. Chiron.Again, later in life, the Saturn square, and he will be committed, mercury conjunct Vesta. Interestingly, almost everything is on the left side of the Venus/Neptune opposition, like a border. I wonder what that means. to have all aspects in that first half of the chart. he is a charming, flexible partner, Venus in Gemini, Moon Mars in Libra, shyer than he appears (ASC in Leo, but Sun in Cancer)

Interestingly, he cuts through the core of both your Juno interceptions.


Leeloo, Mr. Sag's Juno is quite interesting, Neptune in direct aspect with ruler of MC is also a Fire singleton. Maybe he's not very active in going for his Juno partner?

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posted April 28, 2014 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Leeloo, Mr. Sag's Juno is quite interesting, Neptune in direct aspect with ruler of MC is also a Fire singleton. Maybe he's not very active in going for his Juno partner?



Good point! It's like a border there...

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posted April 28, 2014 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leeloo, your Juno is the opposite of your Jupiter . The Saturn compass just change to the opposite direction. Seems like you're already own your Juno who knows how to deal with her Jupiter.

His Juno also has the Saturn compass, not wel structured as yours but not the least powerful. For he has the Sun involved in the Yod, also Mars/Amor at the Yod's release point AND the release Karma point of Saturn. You'll provide the structure with your compass, he'll with provide the means with his. But seems like it takes some times before he steps up to the plate for Valentine is in a T-square with Psyche and Karma and Mars ruler of Aries intercepted. Help him find the right direction!

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posted April 28, 2014 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@Leeloo, you're so sweet. If I find a new obsession, I may have to ask for your advice. Now, I discovered Cappy's ASC is right in between my Moon/South Node and your Venus. Tsk, tsk, love triangle for sure.


Aww.. too bad Cappy isn't into threesomes LOL

Hit me with your obsessions, Tulipe, what's life without an obsession to keep us warm? You don't wanna know about mine...


@Cappy: it is said that Juno is how we women are as a partner. You seem quite the Hera. Mercury MC and ASC ruler on IC, square by Jupiter IC ruler on ASC. Hey, you prefer to keep your devotion in private but people will see through that. Jupiter on ASC could mean that your partner will be someone you're proud of. Mercury sextile Saturn/Eros in 5th. You're naughtier than we thought. Speaking of naughty girl, your Priapus form a Mystic Rectangle with Uranus dispositor of Saturn/Neptune DSC ruler, DSC/Amor and ASC/Jupiter. Marry or not, you will partner up. Wait, not only a Rectangle but a Castle with Venus/Pluto on top. You're queen of your own domain, a dominatrix kind of queen. With Priapus there your king will be willing to be a slave for you, although in this case we can call him the unsuspected victim.

Wow...what could I say more? Perfect analysis! Our Cappy is definitely a Priapic Juno hehehe

I'll try to add:

The importance of 3rd/9th axis: Rulers conjunct in 3rd with disp., Mercury rules both angles forming the Castle with the other rulers quincunx by Moon ruler of 11th, Moon also in Gemini, Sun in Sag. There is a theme here on the 3rd/9th axis, coupled with 11th. Maybe Cappy will find her fulfillment as a partner on the 3rd/9th axis. I see Cappy will ravel the world and meet interesting people before deciding to marry or be a Juno. Amor opp. Jupiter/Psyche square Mars/chart ruler on IC is super cute and intense. Amor/psyche is like an Eros/psyche. Believe it or not, Cappy, you will know the beauty of love in this life. Venus/Mars/Neptune/Valentine linked as midpoints, Neptune ruler of DSC. very lovey doey, but I see again a later in life theme: Saturn disp of DSC ruler conjunct Eros sextile ruler/IC.

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posted April 28, 2014 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Leeloo, your Juno is the opposite of your Jupiter . The Saturn compass just change to the opposite direction. Seems like you're already own your Juno who knows how to deal with her Jupiter.

His Juno also has the Saturn compass, not wel structured as yours but not the least powerful. For he has the Sun involved in the Yod, also Mars/Amor at the Yod's release point AND the release Karma point of Saturn. You'll provide the structure with your compass, he'll with provide the means with his. But seems like it takes some times before he steps up to the plate for Valentine is in a T-square with Psyche and Karma and Mars ruler of Aries intercepted. Help him find the right direction!


Huh! he has no escape. Actually, the Yod apex is at almost the same degree, for both, yes, with my Jupiter. Superposing like you taught me, it would be like his Sun/POF conjunct my Mercury, Neptune/Valentine conjunct for both. The T-square you mentioned forms a Cross with my natal Sun/Venus midpoint, which is Aphrodite, the release of my Yod opp my Jupiter (conjunct his Juno Persona Psyche). I'm not sure he has any escape from the mighty Aphrodite LOL

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posted April 28, 2014 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, girls If I'm ever to pair up it's likely going to happen in my 30's at the earliest so yeah, you could say that later in life.

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posted April 28, 2014 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You humble me . Superpose would place his Mars nearly on your DSC, where you wait for the release ^^.
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The T-square you mentioned forms a Cross with my natal Sun/Venus midpoint, which is Aphrodite, the release of my Yod opp my Jupiter (conjunct his Juno Persona Psyche). I'm not sure he has any escape from the mighty Aphrodite LOL

It's amazing. I love astrology!!!!

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posted April 28, 2014 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Tulipe:
My Juno persona and Valentine persona are only days from each other .

Look at that Mercury MC and also ASC ruler, and conjunct Juno in a Cross with Jupiter IC ruler, Uranus North Node ruler and Priapus. Hey, Cappy, I used to be a 24 yo virgin, it was worth the wait . Cardinal Cross between Venus, Vertex/Pallas, Chiron and Neptune DSC ruler. Funny this Venus - Vertex is on my natal Vertex/Osiris - AVx, my partner is fated then. Hmm, but Pluto/Groom opposite Amor/Briede in a T-square with Moira seems like the star-crossed story , couple with the singleton Fire Moon unaspected and being buried in 12th, ruler of 11th house of wishes and dreams. Ouch. My fairy tale has a vicious twist. The dispositor of Moon, the Sun is also in 12th, double ouch. But POF is near and the Wedge with Jupiter and Saturn/Neptune may still help me make my family dream come true.


Because POF is there conjunct Sun disp of Moon, both in 12th, we are talking about the sunny side of the 12th house: a fated, soulmate partner, a theme supported by other aspects and your other charts. POF changes everything there, IMO. Plus, Mars conjunct Vslentine/Union right on ASC, it's like you're going straight to him, your journey as a partner leads to him, which makes me think about those interlinked Yods and the Leo man. Look at the Leo man completing the cross you mentioned: Amor/Briede/Pluto/Dest/Groom/Moira supported by Venus and Vertex/Pallas, Venus midpointing Mars and Pluto/Groom (good idea to look at the Fates in the Juno chart, I'll check it out)

Pallas disp. by Mars: Pallas plays an important role here, I think, because of its connection with Vertex and being in the 7th

Pallas in Aries: The god of war merges with its goddess and you are driven to fight for your right to seek adventure, new horizons and personal freedom of expression and creativity. Your wisdom is that of innocence and creativity. You have imaginative intelligence and are an adept strategist. Competition ignites your desires to conquer and can be used to motivate yourself to make changes in your life. The personal right to 'experience', to explore and to choose ones destiny are important qualities you will inherently protect both in yourself and for those around you. You possess artistic flair and imagination.

Pallas in the seventh house people possess strong mediating and counselling abilities. One's creative wisdom and skills can be used to improve interpersonal relations. There may be difficulty here with the intimate personal and sexual domain, as some see a conflict between relationship and creativity. Often such people function better in impersonal relationships than in personal ones.
Pallas in the 7th House: The tendency with Pallas in the 7th house is to attract marriage and business partners who are good at recognizing patterns, solving problems, and arranging things. But it frequently happens that the person with Pallas in the 7th house finds it easier to do these things when there is someone else around. The other person doesn't even have to say a word. Just having another person there will make it easier for a Pallas in the 7th house person to solve problems and see patterns.

BTW, didn't you say you study law? And I can see your amazing Pallas in your pattern recognition.

No doubt about the realization of your dream for a family and a partner, it is fated: Juno conjunct Mercury and involved with the other rulers, including Jupiter, your Sag king, Neptune (DSC) and Uranus (NN ruler). It would be interesting to check the Sabian for 2-3 Aries and if you have something there, or maybe he will You are very sensitive, yet assertive person, as a partner, I can see from the chart. Nice Ceres near MC too, trine NN, square Valentine/Union.

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posted April 28, 2014 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is how our Juno/Juno synastry looks like, for a better view of that Yod superposition:

What about his Juno, Tulipe? Or are we forgetting about him?

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Wow, thank you Leeloo for the in depth analysis. I'm not sure if I'm measured up to the beautiful description there but I hope it is so .

Your synastry again is spectacular. Now I see there is also a Cross between Mars/Pluto/Saturn/Venus. It's not quite a Grand Cross but the configuration only hightlight the base Mars/Pluto more. Isn't it that you have Mars pair up with Pluto and Venus with Saturn when we fold the Valentine synastry? This one has the same theme, with Juno involved, how is that for amazing?

I'll come back with the Juno for him ^^, but I have to check something first. The midpoint of your Sun/Venus in the configuration gives me an idea.

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posted April 28, 2014 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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It's not quite a Grand Cross but the configuration only hightlight the base Mars/Pluto more. Isn't it that you have Mars pair up with Pluto and Venus with Saturn when we fold the Valentine synastry? This one has the same theme, with Juno involved, how is that for amazing?


wow...you're right...thanks, Tulipe And Juno, Valentine in synastry are not near each other...

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So I checked, he has Moon/Mars midpoint at 14 Leo, his MC is 17 Leo. I don't have anything at 2-3 Aries, he neither.

Voici his Juno Persona. He has natal Moira on DSC so let's see how fateful he is.

The first thing I notice is his MC/IC is right on my natal Vertex/AVx axis.
The ASC ruler, IC ruler, DSC ruler all packed in 5th house. He is a playful and creative partner, also assertive and tend to go too fast. Luckily his Mars MC ruler is in 6th, near Juno/Lilith/Groom all in Cap, he is also a devoted partner in the traditional style. The intercepted signs in 6th/12th house, with Moon ruler of North Node in 11th trine Mars, opposite Jupiter 5th ruler; Saturn dispositer of Mars at critical degree conjunct Pluto singleton. He is kind of lost but eventually will find his way, will marry late in life. POF in 7th conjunct his natal IC exact, his partner will bring him luck. Priapus opposite Neptune: psychic sex? .

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posted April 28, 2014 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Tulipe:
So I checked, he has Moon/Mars midpoint at 14 Leo, his MC is 17 Leo. I don't have anything at 2-3 Aries, he neither.

Voici his Juno Persona. He has natal Moira on DSC so let's see how fateful he is.

The first thing I notice is his MC/IC is right on my natal Vertex/AVx axis.
The ASC ruler, IC ruler, DSC ruler all packed in 5th house. He is a playful and creative partner, also assertive and tend to go too fast. Luckily his Mars MC ruler is in 6th, near Juno/Lilith/Groom all in Cap, he is also a devoted partner in the traditional style. The intercepted signs in 6th/12th house, with Moon ruler of North Node in 11th trine Mars, opposite Jupiter 5th ruler; Saturn dispositer of Mars at critical degree conjunct Pluto singleton. He is kind of lost but eventually will find his way, will marry late in life. POF in 7th conjunct his natal IC exact, his partner will bring him luck. Priapus opposite Neptune: psychic sex? .


His MC in Leo...maybe he is the Leo man, after all...somehow I doubt it, though, Tulipe Very masculine proactive angles with a Libra heart. His Uranian theme is still here: Uranus ruler of DSC conjunct Pallas and Sun, chart ruler: likes a very intelligent, independent, Uranian, progressive woman. POF in Aqua, Moon in 11th. I'm not sue Mars conjunct Lilith Groom Juno makes him a traditional partner. He seems to be faithful sexually though: Vesta conjunct Union in 8th, Mars in Cap, Moon in Taurus. Still, Uranus rules 8th house too.

The opposition suggests he has a happy nature or maybe he is somehow addicted to fun, joy, feeling good? with those 5th house placements? Moon intercepted, ruler of NN:no intention to marry?

It is interesting, though, your common Pallas theme in the Juno charts.

Priapus Neptune psychic sex? Nah, more like full body mind blowing Os, with Ceres there

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posted April 28, 2014 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Frankly, I'm not very impressed with his Juno chart, he doesn't seem the marrying/partnership type. But I'd like to see your Juno synastry, it seems there's something interesting forming there between your fate cross and his opposition.

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Frankly, I'm not very impressed with his Juno chart, he doesn't seem the marrying/partnership type. But I'd like to see your Juno synastry, it seems there's something interesting forming there between your fate cross and his opposition.

, I'm about to post the synastry when I see your post. Hmm, so you see his problems there, as the reason of the breakup. But still, I'm fated to meet him: Vertex/MC DW.

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The Cross between two Moon/my Nodal axis and his Jupiter, we touch each other's problems . Oh, and my North Node is right where you see he can be faithful, I think he didn't cheat .

EDIT: Well, back to astrology. So I see a Mystic Rectangle with two MC/IC angles, two Venus and two Vertex/AVx axis.
A Fist of God between two Moons and my Saturn.
A Grand Cross between two Moons, his Jupiter, my North Node/his Vesta/Union.
His Nodal axis on my Jupiter/Saturn opposition, my Vesta near his SN so if you count his Pholus/Destin with rather wide orbs, there's is also another Cross.
So many interesting things, but I can't think of how to interpret them, I must rely on you master mind, Leeloo, help me .
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