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I'm so cappy
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posted April 28, 2014 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm evacuating myself to bed. Good night, ladies.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted April 28, 2014 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol good night Cappy, sweet dreams up the roof of the Castle

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Tulipe
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posted April 28, 2014 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I'm evacuating myself to bed. Good night, ladies.


Wow, nice witch! Hocus poscus yourself to bed with your dream lover then.

Goodnight my new obsessions Congratulations! You're on my special stalking list.

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tgem
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posted April 28, 2014 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 28, 2014 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vintagesoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
OK, put it up, but that's it LOL

Hi LeeLoo! Thank you, thank you. I would've had it up sooner but it was a working day.

Ok, since this is my last shot at putting charts up, I'm gonna do it right.

This is his natal (venus in taurus guy):

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This is my natal:

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This is our natals is synastry. He is on the outside, I'm on the inside.

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And this is our juno/juno persona synastry:

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I'll let you share your much, much x10000000 (infinity) eye and than I'll see if there's anything else I'm wondering about.

He was upset today btw, ya know how I mentioned ending things (and turning off my phone so I could be at peace). He didn't realize what it felt like for the person on the receiving end to get the disappearing act, I wasn't really trying to do that though, just needed to separate for a minute. I'm good now.

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posted April 28, 2014 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vintagesoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vintagesoul:
Hi LeeLoo! Thank you, thank you. I would've had it up sooner but it was a working day.

Ok, since this is my last shot at putting charts up, I'm gonna do it right.

This is his natal (venus in taurus guy):

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This is my natal:

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This is our natals is synastry. He is on the outside, I'm on the inside.

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And this is our juno/juno persona synastry:

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I'll let you share your much, much x10000000 (infinity) eye and than I'll see if there's anything else I'm wondering about.

He was upset today btw, ya know how I mentioned ending things (and turning off my phone so I could be at peace). He didn't realize what it felt like for the person on the receiving end to get the disappearing act, I wasn't really trying to do that though, just needed to separate for a minute. I'm good now.


He's on the outside for the juno/juno persona. Sorry.

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posted April 29, 2014 05:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Leeloo, just want to ask if you look at the Davison composite for Juno Persona charts to see how the couple navigate their practical life together. It's just a thought.

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posted April 29, 2014 06:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Hi Leeloo, just want to ask if you look at the Davison composite for Juno Persona charts to see how the couple navigate their practical life together. It's just a thought.



Hi, Tulipe, back on the astrology front. That is a good thought, I've already looked at our composite Juno to see what kind of partnership is there, maybe I'll post it later, Davison is a good idea too. I've also experienced with Sun/Moon composite persona, Venus/Mars persona and other composites between the same Persona. I also compared normal composite to a certain Persona, but that's just me and my obsessive nature I'm sure you understand me better than other people

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posted April 29, 2014 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, and I need to be coming back to it (Persona charts composite/Davison - the idea struck me, too, though I haven`t looked yet, but seems interesting.)

As for the Valentine chart, I found it so interesting how his Valentine-Valentine is exactly conjunct my natal Sun-Mercury-conjunction, same degree, on GC.


Usually I wouldn´t count my natal Sun conjunct his Valentine-Moon, or just weakly, as the orb is 8 degrees.
However in this instance I find it interesting, as his Valentine-Moon is on the antiscion/ mirrordegree/ solsticepoint of my natal Sun and it is EXACT, no orb at all.

I checked my Valentine-chart for DW to his natal, and what I saw was a Moon-Mars DW (square and opposition) and Mercury-Venus (two sextiles).


My own Valentine chart however looks kinda interesting with the golden rectangle.


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posted April 29, 2014 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Hi, Tulipe, back on the astrology front. That is a good thought, I've already looked at our composite Juno to see what kind of partnership is there, maybe I'll post it later, Davison is a good idea too. I've also experienced with Sun/Moon composite persona, Venus/Mars persona and other composites between the same Persona. I also compared normal composite to a certain Persona, but that's just me and my obsessive nature I'm sure you understand me better than other people

Yeah, I understand totally . Speaking of obsession, after discovering you and Cappy all have Yod in your charts, I again wondered why I have so much Yod people in my life . So I did a check, Cappy's Yod align right on my Jupiter quincunx Saturn/Uranus, her Moon sextile base create a perfect Yod to my chart. Your Jupiter/Pholus apex align on my North Node/Moon axis and Cappy's ASC/DSC. You all touch the sensitve parts in my chart and I yours. I haven't count other aspects but this is enough explanation for me .

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posted April 29, 2014 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Usually I wouldn´t count my natal Sun conjunct his Valentine-Moon, or just weakly, as the orb is 8 degrees.
However in this instance I find it interesting, as his Valentine-Moon is on the antiscion/ mirrordegree/ solsticepoint of my natal Sun and it is EXACT, no orb at all.

For me, even without those horizontal aspects (which are awesome BTW), the conjunction is still valid. When there is a possibility for a DW, especially between luminaries, moreover with one of the aspects in close orb, the other one, even larger, applies, and it is a DW. Especially if the other aspect is conjunction, a Sun/Moon conjunction.

Even a similar Venus/Mars situation applies. My parents' synastry is one of the most aspected synastry I've seen, in terms of love aspects. I believe they are twinflames. In their synastry, where a Sun/Moon DW is also present, there is a mutual Venus/Mars conjunction: one in orb, the other one out of orb (13 degrees) but due to the general configuration of the chart, it applies as a DW, just like in the case of Newman/Woodward. Especially since in their case Venus Mars are mutually connected to the common disp of these planets, Saturn.

Unfortunately, my father passed away in October My parents have loved each other for 41 years like two lovebirds until the end. Although both very attractive people, they never had eyes for other people after they met. I will share their synastry with you, if you want to take a look at a synastry for such a love story , but I won't leave it long.

What we see here, apart from the numerous connections on angles, nodes, vertex, between themselves and with planets and love asteroids:

almost all aspects are mutual

Sun/Moon DW, one of the aspects being the septile, the marker for Hieros Gamos, the cosmic wedding.

Venus/Mars DW

Sun/Venus, Sun/Pluto DW etc. and Mars/Saturn square DW, which was found statistically to be a marker in long term relationships with sexual fidelity.

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posted April 29, 2014 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LeeLoo, what do you think about mars/Saturn conjunction in synastry at 3 degree orb applying? Would it have the same affect as the square for being long term?

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I'm so cappy
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posted April 29, 2014 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Boo!

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Tulipe
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posted April 29, 2014 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Boo!


You don't scare me

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posted April 29, 2014 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Then why did you pee yourself?

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posted April 29, 2014 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Then why did you pee yourself?


Cause you just come up on me when I have the need. Good Cappy cat, good cat!

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posted April 29, 2014 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cappy, do you see what I want most in life? Priapus Persona here.

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posted April 29, 2014 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tgem,

I looked at the charts. I couldn't consider his houses or angles, since you don't have an ASC; if you don't have an ASC you don't have vertex either and the Moon can be way off. It is kinda difficult to interpret Persona charts which are more specific, without these aspects. You also put too many aspects. My experience with synastries makes me look first at the major aspects between personal planets (involved in a love relationships) and angles, nodes etc. If these aspects are strong, then we proceed with asteroids like Juno, Valentine, soulmate pairs etc. If these major aspects are not strong or mutual, it will not be a strong love relationship, proceeding with asteroids can be very misleading and produce false results.

Anyway, in your Persona charts we don't have binding synastries (it is hard to tell without the angles though). There are stronger aspects in the Amor comparison, for instance, where your Sun falls on his Amor, his Amor on your ASC. Nevertheless, a great love for him in this life will have something major there, in Taurus. But they are like a few points connecting, not a enough to build a story, IMO. In the Moon Persona there is also a strong karmic situation, with that Kite, but more for you than for him. His Moon stellium falling on your Neptune shows the dreamy quality of your interaction, for both of you, and enhances your Neptune theme in your normal synastry. But it is not supported by other aspects, and you know what Neptune can mean, among the good things.

Based on his charts, although in Sag, his configuration makes me believe he is unlikely to leave his wife, based on his Juno chart and the rest.

Remember how I told you, after looking at your synastry, that if together, you would be good as a couple? It remains true, in a hypothetical situation, but apparently from these other charts, there is not enough to get you to become a couple in the first place.

Based on the theme described in 11th harmonics, which repeats itself in these charts, I think this man is an "angel" for you. What I call an angel is a person who is transient into our lives, passes through it in order to help us perform a rite of passage, helps us transform with something or facilitates a passage from one situation to another. We are all "angels" for other people as well, we perform this role too.

What I think happened is that this man awakened in you your Sun/Eros/Union conjunction, a situation that is obvious from all the charts. Your encounter made you feel generally awakened, since Eros is on your Sun, he made you feel how much you can feel, that love cane be so beautiful, so enchanting, that you have so much to wait for and hope for in love, that things can be different between men and women. It is up to you what you do with this awakening. Maybe it is in your cards to go back to your husband and use this awakening with him (BTW, your synastry/composite are very binding, with an Uranian hint, and I suppose something must have transited your composite Uranus Yod for you to separate), or maybe someone else is waiting for you and this "angel", this "awakener" has prepared you for it, has freed you from your previous situation.

Just my opinion, tgem what you have to do is listen to your heart, despite any advice.

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posted April 29, 2014 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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LeeLoo, what do you think about mars/Saturn conjunction in synastry at 3 degree orb applying? Would it have the same affect as the square for being long term?

Could be, but one aspect is not enough, you need several longevity aspects.

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posted April 29, 2014 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Cappy, do you see what I want most in life? Priapus Persona here.


You'd like to be successful at work (10th house stellium). Eventually you'd like to get married (7th house planets). Preferably to a foreigner (7th house ruler in the 12th, 9th house ruler in the 7th, quincunx, Moon and the NN in the 9th square Jupiter). The Yods pointing to Pluto in the 5th and the anti-Vertex there opposite Ceres suggest that you'd like to have children too.

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posted April 29, 2014 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, thanks for your time and insight LeeLoo.

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posted April 29, 2014 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cappy, you're very good at this Is there anything in that chart that I can hide from you

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posted April 29, 2014 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Btw, I think you hope to have a creative/artistic job - MC and Moon in Pisces, Venus in the 10th conjunct Sun, 6th house ruler in the 5th.

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posted April 29, 2014 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Tulipe:
Yeah, I understand totally . Speaking of obsession, after discovering you and Cappy all have Yod in your charts, I again wondered why I have so much Yod people in my life . So I did a check, Cappy's Yod align right on my Jupiter quincunx Saturn/Uranus, her Moon sextile base create a perfect Yod to my chart. Your Jupiter/Pholus apex align on my North Node/Moon axis and Cappy's ASC/DSC. You all touch the sensitve parts in my chart and I yours. I haven't count other aspects but this is enough explanation for me .


That is so cool! I wonder if we meet, especially you and Cappy with that ASC/NN, although without me (Jupiter) you don't stand a chance

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posted April 29, 2014 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
Btw, I think you hope to have a creative/artistic job - MC and Moon in Pisces, Venus in the 10th conjunct Sun, 6th house ruler in the 5th.

You're welcome


You see right through me, scary thought

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