posted May 08, 2015 05:35 AM            

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Originally posted by Marandana:
I don't understand not even a bit of it, but I get the feeling this is interesting, can you guys give me a small insight?

These are my results:

Type: Reflector

Strategy: Wait a Lunar Cycle

Not-Self Theme: Disappointment

Signature: Surprise

Definition: None

Authority: Lunar Cycle

Profile: Hermit - Opportunist (2/4)

Incarnation Cross: Right Angle Cross of Rulership (22/47 | 26/45)

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Hello Marandana,

Wow, you are the first Reflector I knowingly interact with! Reflectors comprise only 1% of humanity, so whenever you are told "you're special', you should take it quite literally

In brief, according to Human Design we have 9 energetic centres. The defined ones are where we have our own unique energy, which we emit into the world. The open/white ones are where we receive other people's energy into our own system. The challenge for everyone is to be able to identify which energy is their own, and which one belongs to the people around them.

Reflectors have ALL of their energy centres open. This means you are at all times receiving energy from your environment. The Reflector type is named this way, because people like you demonstrate to their community how healthy it is. The people you interact with (family, colleagues, friends) see their best and worst traits amplified in you. This can lead to people responding to you in both sides of the spectrum - with great love, happiness and openness, or with fear and anger.

If you are happy and healthy, then everyone around you is happy and healthy. If you are feeling down, experiencing illness, then your environment is experiencing unhealthy energy. You help people around you see what they need to fix, or build upon.

For you as an individual this can be very exhausting, and Reflectors, out of all 4 types, should be most careful in choosing their environment, so they can remain healthy and happy.
The main thing to remember is that when you feel very strong emotions, thoughts, surges of energy, pressure, they all come from the people around you so you don't have to identify with anything you don't like.

Your 2/4 Hermit profile helps you in this way, because 2/4 tend to be very careful with who they engage with.

The Lunar Cycle authority means that you need to wait 28 days before making big decisions, because at any point in time you could be under the influence of an external energy. By waiting 28 days you can be sure that you are clear on your own direction and it is advisable that you don't make any commitments without waiting for 28 days first.

posted May 08, 2015 10:31 AM            

Curious, here's a chart of an ex...he is a generator. I was very curious regarding him and i's energetic patterns whilst we were together. Looking back, we really did magnified each other so clearly and so much more! I felt i was doing my projector role with him by amplifying the undefined centers at his end. In this case the G center (identity) and the (Head Center). In turn he amplified my Root, Sacral and Solar Plexus. The connection was very complex in so many ways, and transformative at both our end, it's just too much to explain here. But one thing that I noticed though was that I seemed to be able to 'read' into him .. his thoughts and feelings. Does this show on the charts?

posted May 08, 2015 01:22 PM            

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Originally posted by SaturnFan:
And here's an example with myself:

Gate 11 is the Gate of Ideas so whenever I am in contact with someone with an active Gate 56 (The Gate of Stimulation) this activates both our Throat Centres and Ajna Centres and we cannot stop talking about concepts, visions, ideas, and abstract topics.

So it's definitely a fascinating tool to explore synastry

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Hi SaturnFan, thanks for answering all our questions! I appreciate how generous you are with your time and that you engage each person on your threads. If you don't mind, I have a feeling this thread is going to be active for awhile.

I am surprised to see that I don't have an active Gate 56. But I have an active Gate 23 (and you have an active Gate 43) so doesn't that connect both our Ajna and Throat centers also? I know that astrologically we have a Sun-ASC-DESC link and both of us have the same NN and SN, but it would be interesting to see what there is in the HD charts. I'll wait awhile before posting my HD chart to give you time to catch up!

I am intrigued by your answer to this question:

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Originally posted by SDragon:
SaturnFan: How does synastry work if the other person is totally empty of a channel but yours are active?

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I'm particularly interested in how HD chart synastry is reflected in astrological chart synastry. Have you done any cross-referencing in your research? Maybe this is something we can explore further on the thread.

The Projector 2/4 Hermit Profile that I mentioned seems to contradict the person's astrology chart. He has a preponderance of cardinal placements including a cardinal t-square which as I've mentioned before is about problem solving and crisis intervention. But that's not consistent with the Projector or Hermit profile. Yet, the hermit profile is completely accurate!

posted May 08, 2015 01:28 PM            

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Originally posted by SaturnFan:
Hi SDragon,

When you have an open gate/ channel/ centre activated by someone else's defined gate/channel/ centre you will amplify the energy. For example, if person A has an open Solar Plexus and comes into contact with person B with a defined Solar Plexus and in a melancholic mood, person A will feel the emotions in much heavier way. If person A shared their feelings with person B, person B would perceive them as extremely strong, or even dramatic - not as identical to their own.

So, when you have an open channel activated by another's defined channel you will amplify the channel's energy. The person with an open channel will most definitely feel the energy, but it depends on their level of self awareness and knowledge whether they'll recognise it. The channel will have an especially big impact if it connects 2 centres which are otherwise open or disconnected.

In your example, Channel 2-14 connects the Sacral and the Identity centres. If you come in contact with someone with both centres open, your 2-14 channel will not only activate them both but also connect them. In your company, this person will feel amazingly empowered, because they would both have a strong sense of identity and purpose, AND feel access to energy and life-force. Channel 2-14 is about relying on your own inner resources, so when you activate this within them, they'll feel like they can conquer the world. Even if they have 1 of the centres defined, or both of them, activating this channel will make them feel like they have accessed some power which had been dormant or semi-conscious until now. Or it was conscious, but they never found a way to utilise it. This channel is very empowering in synastry. If you're in contact with this person for an extended period of time, you can truly see them blossom before your eyes.

I have a defined Channel of Initiation (25-51), and observing its effect on people has been very informative and great fun. Just one extremely trivial example: 1 of the manifestations of this channel is that it makes people feel competitive towards you. Whenever I walk on a street besides a stranger, they would almost always rush ahead in order to pass me by. I walk very fast normally, so I've had people semi-run only to slow down again after they are a few steps ahead of me. This used to both confuse and irritate me, until I researched my 25-51 Channel and now I find it hilarious. Of course, this channel can have bigger and really profound effects, but my example illustrates that the energy of our defined gates and channels is always in play, even in the small things.

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Fascinating!

posted May 08, 2015 01:38 PM            

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Originally posted by SaturnFan:
I'm also a Projector, and yes the 'wait for invitation' bit I found infuriating. It all comes down to poor wording in the end, I believe. Firstly, it's only about 'big' things in life, like relationships, relocation, change of jobs/ career etc. "Waiting" is not meant as sitting around and hoping for people or circumstances to magically show up, but 'doing your own thing' which comes naturally. For example, if you are drawn to taking a Marketing course or researching Marketing in your own time, you should do it and you will attract a Marketing gig energetically. This is what they mean by 'waiting' - trusting your intuition to explore things of interest, which changes your whole energy vibration and attracts the very thing you are 'preparing' for.
It still sounds too passive for my liking, but looking back the best things in my life always happened through an 'invitation' (which by the way does not need to be formal or even worded as such, it just means that someone recognises your specific skills or personality and reaches out to you). When I've tried to 'initiate' things I got very disappointing results But I'm still testing it out to see how it will work in the future.

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I like the way you explain things. It doesn't give me the image of the lazy ass who waits under a fruit tree with his mouth open, you know.

posted May 08, 2015 11:33 PM            

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Originally posted by SaturnFan:
I'm also a Projector, and yes the 'wait for invitation' bit I found infuriating. It all comes down to poor wording in the end, I believe. Firstly, it's only about 'big' things in life, like relationships, relocation, change of jobs/ career etc. "Waiting" is not meant as sitting around and hoping for people or circumstances to magically show up, but 'doing your own thing' which comes naturally. For example, if you are drawn to taking a Marketing course or researching Marketing in your own time, you should do it and you will attract a Marketing gig energetically. This is what they mean by 'waiting' - trusting your intuition to explore things of interest, which changes your whole energy vibration and attracts the very thing you are 'preparing' for.
It still sounds too passive for my liking, but looking back the best things in my life always happened through an 'invitation' (which by the way does not need to be formal or even worded as such, it just means that someone recognises your specific skills or personality and reaches out to you). When I've tried to 'initiate' things I got very disappointing results But I'm still testing it out to see how it will work in the future.

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This is what drew me into human design initially because it has been so true for me. Pretty much exactly what you wrote has been the same for me as a projector, anytime i'd try to initiate things especially in terms of life decisions, it has been a let down. After much trial and error I have noticed that it had only been when it feels as if it is "right", that there is that "invitation" as HD calls it to pursue whatever it is. Without that invitation it feels like you are just forcing something to happen, which instead crumbles and are left with disappointment.

posted May 09, 2015 03:46 PM            

The 'reading his feelings' bit is definitely clear by looking at the charts since he has a defined Solar Plexus and you an open one. This is also amplified by the fact that your defined Gate 10 connects with his defined Gate 41, activating the Channel of Recognition and not only activating your Solar Plexus and Root Centre, but also connecting his Solar Plexus and Root Centre which strengthens his bottom-half definition. So not only did you detect his emotions but were also powerfully connected to them.

The 'reading his thoughts' part is more complex, and very interesting! You both have defined Ajna centres, and you are the one with the defined Head centre so according to the usual interpretations he should be the one reading your thoughts. However he bridges your split definition between the Head & Ajna Centres and the Throat and Identity centres (via Channel 11-56, the Channel of Curiosity), and he also strengthens the connection between your Throat and Identity Centre by completing a 2nd Channel (13-33). All this builds a very powerful communication field. My interpretation is that thoughts were expressed very easily between you, even if not articulated verbally. This is why you experienced it as being able to read his thoughts. Did he feel he could read yours? If not, I believe this might be because you are more tuned in to your own energy than he is to his.

posted May 09, 2015 04:12 PM            

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Originally posted by peony:
Hi SaturnFan, thanks for answering all our questions! I appreciate how generous you are with your time and that you engage each person on your threads. If you don't mind, I have a feeling this thread is going to be active for awhile.

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Thank you Peony, it's my pleasure, this has been a great learning experience for me too since I've only ever checked this system against myself and a few friends and family members. It's fascinating to run it by people who are also curious about it and test how it works! I hope the thread runs for a while too

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Originally posted by peony:
I am surprised to see that I don't have an active Gate 56. But I have an active Gate 23 (and you have an active Gate 43) so doesn't that connect both our Ajna and Throat centers also? I know that astrologically we have a Sun-ASC-DESC link and both of us have the same NN and SN, but it would be interesting to see what there is in the HD charts. I'll wait awhile before posting my HD chart to give you time to catch up!

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I'd love to see your chart! I'm sure we at least one or two channels which connect either the Head and Ajna centres or the Ajna and Throat centres - they are all fascinating channels I'll post my chart at the bottom of this post, feel free to post yours when you can

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Originally posted by peony:

I'm particularly interested in how HD chart synastry is reflected in astrological chart synastry. Have you done any cross-referencing in your research? Maybe this is something we can explore further on the thread.

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I've only just started tapping into synastry in astrology, so haven't done any cross-referecing yet - it's absolutely something I'd love to explore. I'll try to think of some examples we can use. Do you have any by hand?

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Originally posted by peony:
The Projector 2/4 Hermit Profile that I mentioned seems to contradict the person's astrology chart. He has a preponderance of cardinal placements including a cardinal t-square which as I've mentioned before is about problem solving and crisis intervention. But that's not consistent with the Projector or Hermit profile. Yet, the hermit profile is completely accurate!

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I'm wondering about that. 2/4 Profiles are supposed to be a bit isolated and only engage when 'called'. Combined with a Projector type (having to 'wait for an invitation') this message is re-iterated. Maybe all his cardinal placements and their potential are supposed to 'get activated' when he enters a situation properly (through a correct call/ invitation) and for the rest of the time should be inactive. Does this ring true?
It'd be interesting to check whether he has the equivalent of cardinal/problem solving placements in his HD chart. Then we can see what is needed to activate them. I'll need to check what these placements were and get back to you.

And this is my chart:

posted May 09, 2015 04:23 PM            

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When I deal with people, I do "wait" quite often. I respect boundaries and don't push my way into their lives or try to "manage" them without their "invitation". I offer advices, plans and whatnot when they ask (or when they give me "signals"), but I don't get annoyed if they decide not to follow. Sometimes I feel slightly bad when people do not realize their own potentials, or they don't want to develop those potentials. But at the end of the day I know that it's their lives, so their decisions and priorities are what matter, not what I think or feel.

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posted May 09, 2015 04:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Marandana:
Oh my god Saturnfan, you left me shocked. It's all true, and the funny thing is that I had that theory about me before knowing this, somehow my intuiton has always told me that some people use me as a mirror, cause my life has not been always easy as some people would think, I've overcome many obstacles and I'm still fighting inner demons, but I have always had the feeling that, in front of the eyes of others, I am what they want to see, for some people I am a true fighter, a role model (those are their words) but for others, I'm just someone who lives a chaotic life. And I've always got the feeling that all the perceptions people have about me, depends on their own personal experiences and things they have lived.
Thank you for your little explanation, it's interesting

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This is fascinating. Thank you so much for sharing! I recommend this link, in case you're interested to read more about your Type - it's an excerpt by the founder of Human design:

posted May 09, 2015 04:44 PM            

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Originally posted by arcturiann:

I've been studying HD for a while, and although I find it accurate, there is always a block in how much I am able to study for free until it seems like I have to purchase something in order to get more info. Do you have any favorite free sites for interpretations for gates? I remember getting so into it as far as the "colors" and "tones" and all that, and recommendations of food to eat, but I felt like I needed more resources than the ones I had available.

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Hi arcturiann, thank you for joining us!

Yes, sooner or later you exhaust all information sources and have to pay yourself into more knowledge. This is the disadvantage of Human Design being such a new system, comparative to all other systems it supposedly combines - the information out there is limited. This is what makes me think that after a certain point the best thing you can do is learn through experience and observation.

The colors and tones are very fascinating (as far as I can tell - I've only read the information on them which is online), but at this level I feel it becomes too prescriptive. Maybe I need to get a better handle on the gates and channels first before appreciating the other levels - and maybe until then there'll be more information out there

On the following link there is a good explanation of each channel, which also contains a brief explanation of the gates:

http://humandesign.com/section-b

They are divided into Integration Channels, Individual Circuit, Tribal Circuit and Collective Circuit.

This book contains a more detailed description of each Gate, it's the book I started with it and found it very accurate. It's a free PDF you can download:

Human Design - Parkyn Chetan

Also if you download this software, you can generate HD charts automatically and export them into PDFs (this option is active only during a free trial though) then you'll have a short description of each gate in the PDF.

http://secure.jovianarchive.com/Software/Maia_Mechanics_Imaging#introduction

The very best descriptions on Gates however is the the book co-authored by the founder of Human Design - If you ever decide to spend money on Human Design I'd suggest this because it provides detailed information on all the basics. Everything else is someone else's interpretation.

http://www.amazon.com/Human-Design-Definitive-Science-Differentiation/dp/0615552145

posted May 09, 2015 05:16 PM              

Human Design: Projectors - To See and Be Seen ...or to see and show, but not without the invitation.

posted May 09, 2015 11:28 PM            

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Originally posted by SaturnFan:
I'm wondering about that. 2/4 Profiles are supposed to be a bit isolated and only engage when 'called'. Combined with a Projector type (having to 'wait for an invitation') this message is re-iterated. Maybe all his cardinal placements and their potential are supposed to 'get activated' when he enters a situation properly (through a correct call/ invitation) and for the rest of the time should be inactive. Does this ring true?

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The way that you've synthesized both sources of information makes sense. From what I know of him, the invitation has come from people who have needed help in some way.

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It'd be interesting to check whether he has the equivalent of cardinal/problem solving placements in his HD chart. Then we can see what is needed to activate them. I'll need to check what these placements were and get back to you.

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SaturnFan, when you have time, that would be awesome! It may also help to clarify where HD and astrology's strengths dovetail and where they diverge in their respective capacities for insight and understanding. This could be very useful in utilizing these systems in a precise way.

For example, in my opinion, an astrological chart cannot and does not reveal the soul's level of evolution and therefore whether a person is likely to manifest the higher vibration of a sign, configuration, or planetary energy in their chart or not. I'm wondering if HD may have a clue or even a key to this question.

Another burning question for me is something that Venus brought up.

In astrology, it's my understanding that a person who has strong connections between inner and outer planets, is going to have a more transpersonal orientation than people who don't.

posted May 10, 2015 12:46 AM            

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EDIT: These 2 links have very detailed descriptions of Projectors, I'd love to hear how accurate you find them

http://www.geneticmatrix.com/projector/

http://www.humandesignplanet.info/?page_id=1665

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SaturnFan, the links were very helpful, illuminating, and mostly accurate.

I don't know if I'm "great at organizing others and at networking. They know how to bring the right people to the job to accomplish a specific task..." or that I'm an ideal leader or administrator, I've never done this. Pretty much a solo operator.

I do focus on one person at a time, but I'm also very interested in groups, and broad global and social issues.

It's true that I can be around people non-stop for about 24 hours, and then I need to be alone and quiet. I wouldn't be happy in a fast paced, busy environment. Astrologically, this is indicated by Moon in major aspect (square) to Neptune. Moon-Neptune people need to sleep by themselves periodically, even if they have a partner or spouse.

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Ideally, a Projector should try and be outside of anyone aura whilst they are resting! Otherwise their white centers will keep on taking in what is around them.

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HD is spot on about permeability of the auric field! I remember getting on a bus once. Two people sitting nearby were engaged in an intense argument. Just walking through the space between them made me very uncomfortable.

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How does the Projector know if someone is right for them? Other people recognize, approach, and invite them! Until that happens no one is worth wasting that precious Projector energy and wisdom on.

Ultimately, true success in life for a Projector is in selecting the right people to have in their lives. Those people who truly recognize and appreciate them for who they really are. Our wise and intelligent guides.

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This is very helpful. I wish I had this info six months ago! Thanks so much!

posted May 10, 2015 10:38 AM            

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bluestskies88,

The 'reading his feelings' bit is definitely clear by looking at the charts since he has a defined Solar Plexus and you an open one. This is also amplified by the fact that your defined Gate 10 connects with his defined Gate 41, activating the Channel of Recognition and not only activating your Solar Plexus and Root Centre, but also connecting his Solar Plexus and Root Centre which strengthens his bottom-half definition. So not only did you detect his emotions but were also powerfully connected to them.

The 'reading his thoughts' part is more complex, and very interesting! You both have defined Ajna centres, and you are the one with the defined Head centre so according to the usual interpretations he should be the one reading your thoughts. However he bridges your split definition between the Head & Ajna Centres and the Throat and Identity centres (via Channel 11-56, the Channel of Curiosity), and he also strengthens the connection between your Throat and Identity Centre by completing a 2nd Channel (13-33). All this builds a very powerful communication field. My interpretation is that thoughts were expressed very easily between you, even if not articulated verbally. This is why you experienced it as being able to read his thoughts. Did he feel he could read yours? If not, I believe this might be because you are more tuned in to your own energy than he is to his.

Thank you for sharing your charts and your experience of the synastry, it's a very interesting example of how things are never as black-and-white as described in books or articles!

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Sounds about right SaturnFan! There was deff a telepathic thought reading/connection between him and i. And yes, he was able to read my thoughts and communicate with me through telepathy and I with him as well. It had it's advantages and disadvantages because when we ended the relationship, I was still able to read his thoughts/feelings! LOL ... it was very annoying, but eventually, I managed to let him go, and that was when things calmed down telepathically! There was great communication as you mentioned as we couldn't seem to stop talking and sharing ideas! We used to talk away for hours! hahaha.. that was the fun part, but with his Inner Authority in the Solar Plexus (Emotional Authority) -- this made things complicated with his decision making. I felt he was very wishy washy with his emotions, and in the end, I couldn't handle it. These insights are validating my perspectives about what happened between him and I. It's given me a solid understanding as to what happened with the dynamics and why the connection fell apart.

posted May 10, 2015 10:55 AM            

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Originally posted by bluestskies88:
In my perspective, projections are unconscious shadows that people project onto another because they are not aware of it... how does this connect with the human design concept? Do we as 'Projectors' do this?

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I'd like clarification too about projection according to HD and specifically the difference between a Projector and a Reflector. I understand people project onto Projectors. Is it basically people seeing what they want to see in the Projector something that the latter may or may not possess? Is there substance to what people are seeing or is it just a hall of mirrors?

posted May 10, 2015 12:53 PM              

Spiritual Potential

The emotional center has spiritual potential to see that in life there are no good things or bad things, there’s just the incredible fact of the immensity of existence. This emotional experience allows people to really come to grips with what is. Life is pleasurable and it is uncomfortable. That’s not the point. The point is that there is life and that is simply wonderful.

Understanding this takes time and it is not easy. For example an emotional manifestor; they are wired to do what they feel. If you tell them “Now listen here, you can’t simply do whatever you feel like doing, you have to wait, sleep on it to get clear and then you have to inform the other and get permission”. Hah! Easy for you to say.

Another example might be an emotional projector with 3 defined motors. They are constantly filled with energy and intent on finding some way to express that energy. If you simply say to them “Hey you have to wait to be recognized and invited, then you have to sleep on it before you can act” they’re not really well positioned to hear that and the pressure is hard to resist.

The emotional center is the squeaky wheel that gets the grease because it is very hard to ignore the emotional wave. Some emotionally defined people are very squeaky, but they have the option of being, rather than engines of chaos, sentinels of depth. The difference is if they follow what feels right after waiting until there is some clarity.

Emotional authority never has 100% clarity. But with time, they can generally feel good or calm about something. Or the reverse will happen: they will generally feel nervous or over emotional about something, in which case it is a "no" to whatever they are dealing with.
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How Long is Long Enough?

While we can know right away that a person’s body chemistry continually cycles them through a binary experience of emotions, there’s no way to know how long the cycle takes. Nor is it possible to say that the cycle always takes the same amount of time, nor even that the wave is a singularity. The wave can be happening in multiple time frames such that one relates to the daily world via their wave, but relates to more extended interactions with the world from a larger wave.

The major mantra for emotional authority is “There is no truth in the now”, or “Never be spontaneous”. An emotionally defined person should always sleep on it before making a decision. Sleeping on it may be enough time for some kinds of decisions such as “Do you want to have dinner tomorrow?” The longer the possible interaction with the world, the longer the person needs to experience the larger wave.

For example, someone may be just a single paper away from obtaining their Ph.D. and wake up one morning suddenly feeling that “Oh no, I don’t want this!” Just sleeping on it simply isn’t enough time for them to really decide that they don’t want it. That feeling may just be part of a daily or weekly cycle

Authority and Decision Making

When an emotionally defined person gets up in the morning and goes to the closet to select their attire for the day, they don’t need to ‘sleep on that decision’. There are many decisions to be made in life that don’t require that much time. Odds are that emotional authority probably does happen with respect to picking out ones clothes of the day, but that manifestation of the wave is very fast – faster than the person can be aware of – or needs to be.

What is dangerous for the emotional person is to make a decision based upon someone else’s insistence or manipulation. Often, particularly in today’s world, salesman use the technique of forcing an immediate decision either by offering a reward for the quick decision or instilling fear about delaying.

It may be OK for some authorities to make that snap decision, but it’s not healthy for the emotional authority. If they are closer to the hope end of their cycle the reward is very tempting, and if they’re closer to the pain/despair end of the cycle then the fear of delay can be overwhelming. Making a decision from either end is simply to make an incomplete decision. If the decision looks good from both ends then there is clarity. If it looks bad when they’re up as well as when they’re down then there is clarity. If it looks good and bad, then you just need to wait some more .

The emotional authority only knows after some time has passed. They may meet someone and have an instant dislike for them, but then that emotional authority will keep coming back and checking the person out again and again. Each iteration gives them a slightly different take on the person depending where they are in the wave at that moment. This is the great gift of emotional authority. They have the ability to fully feel in an experiential manner the completeness of things.

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I'd like clarification too about projection according to HD and specifically the difference between a Projector and a Reflector. I understand people project onto Projectors. Is it basically people seeing what they want to see in the Projector something that the latter may or may not possess? Is there substance to what people are seeing or is it just a hall of mirrors?

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I can't speak to the difference between the Projector and the Reflector (I have been looking at this system a total of 2 hours maybe, and because of that I should wait, as both my Aura Mechanic and Inner Authority dictate...), but when I think Projector I actually think of the machine (aura mechanic). Compare the title Generator to what a generator actually does. The Projector absorbs, and focuses (and can show when invited). I don't think it has to do with how other people see the projector, though I have read that others will sometimes see the projector as a "vampire" or "parasite", if the projector focuses in on people and situations without being invited.

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
...when I think projector I actually think of the machine (aura mechanic).

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Venus, you're illustrating what's behind my asking for clarification. Words have various associations and mean different things to different people. So, it's important to define assigned meanings when communicating about systems with their own unique terminology.

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
I think that the Emotional Authority can look to Saturn in their chart, and focus on developing its energy. Saturn blesses the chart of the Emotional Authority, and challenges to Saturn should be checked.

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Venus, thanks for linking the astrology. I'm interested in that too. Can you expand on this? A concrete example would be helpful.

I find the MO for Emotional Authority to be true for me. I've found repeatedly that I will hesitate to make a decision or do something and then later find out it was the right decision to wait. It seems to me there is a subconscious knowing not to act. Also, in major things, when I feel excited about something, I trust it to guide my decision because whatever "it" is resonates with my being.

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Originally posted by peony:
Venus, you're illustrating what's behind my asking for clarification. Words have various associations and mean different things to different people. So, it's important to define assigned meanings when communicating about systems with their own unique terminology.

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