posted May 14, 2015 03:56 AM            

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She's assisted greatly by Uranus on the ASC and Pluto in the 11H well aspected to her Sun-Moon-Mercury stellium. Also I think by a defined Identity center. Uranus and Pluto will not support being submerged in a group.

I feel it's important to emphasize the wise use of power with all the Pluto aspects. Also, great influence for good in the world is never a solo achievement. We are assisted by spiritual forces far above and beyond us.

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posted May 14, 2015 07:41 AM            

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Originally posted by bluestskies88:
SaturnFan,

That's a great image. So the projector would be the one with the red aura?

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Hey bluestskies88 - no, the Projector is the one with the blue, penetrating aura. The red one is a Generator.

It's explained in detail in this video:

posted May 14, 2015 07:45 AM            

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Originally posted by SaturnFan:

Projectors: Our aura absorbs information from our environment and 'stores' it (sometimes without us knowing), and when we are presented with a specific situation our aura focuses exactly on the 'pain point' and pulls precisely the type of information needed. We have a deeply penetrating aura (see illustration below, a big favourite of mine), so this is why we have to be invited to use it.

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Oh, you responded so quickly! ... was gonna edit and add this bit.

So this is exactly what happens to me when i am interacting with people or even just being around people -- invited and not invited (when i call 'meddling') lol

I understand what happens when I meddle, but what happens when we are invited and then their 'issues' we are focusing on affects us or knocks us off our balance.. how do we shield or handle this so we wouldn't feel THEIR energies/stuff and carry it as our own?

Also, i think i read it on here from one of your responses or perhaps someone that Projectors has a huge auric field. When I read this, i remembered when I was having a energy healing one time with this lady, and she was cleaning my aura.. and as she was cleaning around me, and stepping further from me, she goes..you have a huge auric field.. so this is very resonating!

posted May 14, 2015 07:52 AM            

So if you feel an overwhelming sense of hopelessness when interacting with someone, ideally you should register "this person is feeling hopeless in this particular way", instead of "oh, I'm feeling so hopeless myself".

It's a difficult thing to tackle. I'm still working on it - I know when the energy I feel is not mine, but I still struggle to not internalise.

posted May 14, 2015 07:56 AM            

Yeh, this is a very hard thing to balance indeed. I myself am also still learning how to deal with it. What I do is keep healthy boundaries and yes be aware which is my energy and which is not mine. However, it does get complicated especially in a more intimate relationship, lets say a wife/husband, girlfriend/boyfriend, even parents because the bond is much much closer.

But yeah, lets see what Venus and Peony think.. or perhaps other projectors on this discussion as well.

posted May 14, 2015 12:09 PM            

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Hello Aunt Anomalia

The first thing, you have Self-Projected Authority.
The Authority guides us in making the right decisions for ourselves, so with Self-Projected authority you need to make decisions based only on what makes you feel like "you". If a person, offer, event makes you feel connected to your inner core, makes you feel free to express yourself, then it is right for you. Also, since your Authority originates in the connection between the Identity Centre and the Throat Centre (= manifestation, self-expression), you should pay close attention to what you are saying, as a way to observe yourself. It is not advisable for people with Self-Projected authority to plan what they're going to say when they discuss a big decision with someone, but simply start talking. This clears out your mind and feelings, filters out any conditioning by others, and shows you what the right is for you.

Since you have 6 Open centres (the white shapes in the chart), you receive an incredibly big amount of energy from your environment. The key is to not identify with energy which is not your own.

I suggest taking look at this link for a brief description on them, and if you have any questions I'll be happy to answer them.

The 9 Centers

Also strongly recommend having a look at the 2 defined Channels you have

Channel of Curiosity 11-56

posted May 14, 2015 01:21 PM            

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Originally posted by SaturnFan:
Hi Peony - yes, though not in the sense of being obliged to pay 'karmic debt' we 'owe' for past 'transgressions'. While Manifestors are here to initiate things, and Generators are here to provide the life force and keep the world spinning (the are 70% of humanity after all), Projectors and Reflectors are the 2 types who keep Manifestors and Generators 'in check'. Projectors can see specific, exquisite ways of doing things, of resolving problems, usually on an interpersonal level or in a smaller group. While Manifestors just get the ball rolling, and Generators want to do, do, do, they can get lost in incorrect endeavours. Projectors have the ability to direct the energy in the best way possible. Our aura is inquisitive on a person-by-person basis, if we are aware we can immediately 'get' the other on a deep level, and guide them. In this sense, we have a 'trans-personal' energetic make up.
Reflectors function the same way, but on a bigger scale (with bigger groups of people).
The best way I saw it explained was by using the percentage distribution:
Projectors are 20% of humanity = 1 Projector for 5 people (we're best in smaller groups)
Reflectors are 1% of humanity = 1 Reflector for 100 people

Also, I should mention the way our auras work.
Manifestors: they have a 'repelling' aura, clearing out the way for them, allowing them to walk their own path. If the Manifestor is not aware of their power and impact on others, this can present itself in literally repelling others. I've observed this a Manifestor I know, despite a very friendly atmosphere, people would sit away from him often, and he finds himself sitting at a comfortable distance from everyone (and not minding it either).

Generators: They have a magnetic aura, constantly pulling life in - people, events, offers, etc. Their aura pulls the Universe into presenting them constantly with things they can say "yes" or "no" to.

Projectors: Our aura absorbs information from our environment and 'stores' it (sometimes without us knowing), and when we are presented with a specific situation our aura focuses exactly on the 'pain point' and pulls precisely the type of information needed. We have a deeply penetrating aura (see illustration below, a big favourite of mine), so this is why we have to be invited to use it.

Reflectors: Their aura reflects their environment constantly, and samples key information to communicate back. By looking at a Reflector, you can get an immediate idea of what state their community is in.

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SaturnFan, thanks. This is awesome! Even though I watched the video on auras, I have a better grasp of this now. You're a very good teacher!

Can a Projector who doesn't wait for the invitation, in initiating a discussion to resolve a conflict with someone be construed as being confrontational, in other words, provoke a negative reaction in the other person? And, does the reaction also have something to do with their feeling the Projector's penetrating aura?

posted May 14, 2015 01:25 PM            

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Originally posted by SaturnFan:
The lines are very important, and taking things one level deeper. Even if you have an identical chart with the same open/defined centres, channels and gates as someone else, the lines would be different and this would make the manifestation of your energy completely different and unique.

On this link there is a brief description of how each line manifests (each line is on a separate page): http://humandesign.com/first-line-foundation

I have a brief description of each Gate in one of my books, and how each line influences it, so I'll be happy to check your key gates and how they manifest. Did I understand correctly that you have Gates 1 and 2 with a line 6? Let me know and I'll check them for you.

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Yes, the gates are 1 and 2 with a line 6.

Thanks, if it's not that long - it'll give me a reference for my own understanding.

posted May 14, 2015 01:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
Is there anything interesting in my design?

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Hi Aunt Anomalia, I'll say! This is the just the first sentence regarding your defined Channel of Inspiration 8-1.

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The Channel of Inspiration, 8-1, links the throat Center through the 8, the Gate of Holding Together, to the 1, the Gate of The Creative in the G Center. This is the channel of the Creative Role Model. Here we see the expression of the self to demonstrate its unique creativity.

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posted May 14, 2015 01:38 PM            

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Originally posted by SaturnFan:
Hello Aunt Anomalia
Also strongly recommend having a look at the 2 defined Channels you have

Channel of Curiosity 11-56

Channel of Inspiration 8-1

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Excerpt from Channel of Inspiration 8-1:

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Many inspiring entertainers have this 8-1 channel defined. The 8/1 entertainer has this marvelous ability to fill us with a sense of empowerment that we too can learn how to play an instrument, or sing or dance or act, or simply live. The entertainer is also an excellent example of waiting for recognition.

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The comedian Jim Carrey is a great example of this, although his 8/1 channel is not defined. This is his speech to the graduating class at Maharishi University. It's wonderful, both funny and inspiring.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V80-gPkpH6M&feature=youtu.be

Link to Carrey's HD chart:
http://www.humandesignsystem.com/archive/charts/CarreyJim.pdf

posted May 14, 2015 01:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Peony:
YG, I link your leadership qualities in the astro chart to Uranus on the ASC. Your 1.4 profile indicates you're an introvert. As such, I can see why you don't identify with being a leader per se and probably wouldn't be comfortable in a role that requires a sustained outward orientation.

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I've seen two kinds of manifestations of Pluto in the 11H. Pluto in this house tends to be an outsider. One who doesn't buy into the norms or conventions of society and/or doesn't feel a part of it. Or, that you are aware of pathologies in the collective and want to see changes in the social/cultural order (Pluto square Jupiter). Pluto in the 11H suggests that you relate more to an underground sub culture of some kind, people who may be subversive of the predominate culture they live or were brought up in.

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Pluto in Scorpio is into the idea of shared resources and is conscious of the finite nature of the planet's resources and how they are being used and distributed.

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You have a defined Identity center, so that suggests that you're not at risk of losing yourself within a collective identity. Also, with such a strong Uranus on the ASC, that's not likely anyway.

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Now as far as the other manifestation of Pluto in the 11H that I've seen. This Pluto in the 11H person would share the same sense of being an outsider, but would strongly identify with a group of individuals, like a gang, where they can draw strength and power from a collective identity. The need is understandable but obviously this can present problems for a Pluto in the 11H person with an undefined Identity center.

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Your Pluto is semi-square Uranus, so this suggests a strong, willful, rebellious and individualist spirit. I suspect having this aspect would make it difficult to accept the subordinate position of a child having to obey adults! I also think because the 1H is affected, this trait would be noticeable!

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posted May 14, 2015 02:00 PM            

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Originally posted by bluestskies88:
So this is exactly what happens to me when i am interacting with people or even just being around people -- invited and not invited (when i call 'meddling') lol

I understand what happens when I meddle, but what happens when we are invited and then their 'issues' we are focusing on affects us or knocks us off our balance.. how do we shield or handle this so we wouldn't feel THEIR energies/stuff and carry it as our own?

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Hey, Bluestkies, in my experience, acquiring an ability to stay centered and not take in the energies of other people takes time. I started out not having a strong sense of my own identity. I also have a natal Moon square Neptune so I would feel other people's stuff and soak it up like a sponge without being able to separate what was "me" and what was "them" (undefined G center). I also unfortunately accepted other peoples' judgments of me. It took me a long time to develop my core, a lot of studying, a lot of working on myself, and receiving a lot of help from other people, to reach the stage where I am today where I am clear about where my aura ends and the other person's begins, in a manner of speaking.

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Also, i think i read it on here from one of your responses or perhaps someone that Projectors has a huge auric field. When I read this, i remembered when I was having a energy healing one time with this lady, and she was cleaning my aura.. and as she was cleaning around me, and stepping further from me, she goes..you have a huge auric field.. so this is very resonating!

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The only time I've experienced a large auric field is with a co-worker. We were outside the building where we worked and she was about 25 feet away. I remember watching her walk away with her back to me. I remember having a fixed gaze on her and feeling this wave of compassion as I stood there. Suddenly, I felt my aura grow larger and larger until it reached her and enveloped her. Mind you, it wasn't my ego that did this. It came from something or somewhere deep inside.

posted May 14, 2015 02:03 PM            

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Originally posted by peony:
Could be, once you synthesize the energies of the signs within the Yod. Then the energies of the base can be channeled to the apex and expressed in the arena of work and service. Maybe Ami told you this already.

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Yes she gave me insights on how YOD works It was great! Because Chiron is not a planet, she says it is not a classic Yod but Chiron is prominent in my chart so it has influence in my life for sure.

posted May 14, 2015 02:14 PM            

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Originally posted by peony:
She's assisted greatly by Uranus on the ASC and Pluto in the 11H well aspected to her Sun-Moon-Mercury stellium. Also I think by a defined Identity center. Uranus and Pluto will not support being submerged in a group.

I feel it's important to emphasize the wise use of power with all the Pluto aspects. Also, great influence for good in the world is never a solo achievement. We are assisted by spiritual forces far above and beyond us.

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It is true, Peony. I can't stay unnoticed even if I want to. Because of the way I am, the things I say, the things I do, I attract attentions and ppl take notice of me. I just have to get used to it! lol

posted May 14, 2015 02:18 PM            

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Originally posted by SaturnFan:
YellowGerbera,

Wow, I admire the field you've chosen, this is truly, truly inspiring. Taking on a big challenge, forging your own path, benefiting society - what a brilliant manifestation of both your HD and Astrological charts!

I'm confident the Universe will support you on your way!

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Thank you SaturnFan!!

I will do my best and see how much I can achieve in this life time! All I can do is try, do it and see how it goes

posted May 14, 2015 02:19 PM            

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Originally posted by YellowGerbera:
Yes she gave me insights on how YOD works It was great! Because Chiron is not a planet, she says it is not a classic Yod but Chiron is prominent in my chart so it has influence in my life for sure.

Having Chiron on the apex is difficult though. There's a constant influx of pain and healing...

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YG, thanks for your feedback! I may be wrong but I think once the Gemini energies are synthesized with the Scorpio-Capricorn energies of the base of your yod - Pluto and Neptune - you will be able to draw into your auric field these archetypal energies in a more conscious or intentional way ? and you won't take things as personally. I believe this is contingent upon aligning ego and soul and then that yod will act as a tremendous source of healing for others because these are outer planets that feed the apex.

posted May 14, 2015 02:51 PM            

Other famous Projectors are Queen Elizabeth II, President Obama, Princess Diana,Mark Zuckerberg

posted May 14, 2015 02:57 PM            

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Originally posted by peony:
SaturnFan, thanks. This is awesome! Even though I watched the video on auras, I have a better grasp of this now. You're a very good teacher!

Can a Projector who doesn't wait for the invitation, in initiating a discussion to resolve a conflict with someone be construed as being confrontational, in other words, provoke a negative reaction in the other person? And, does the reaction also have something to do with their feeling the Projector's penetrating aura?

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Peony, this is one of the most difficult questions I have personally encountered regarding the Projector type. It might be one of the things we should figure out based on personal experience, because the Human Design interpretation is a little prescriptive and simplistic (in my view) and might not apply for each person, or at least for each case.

What I've read about interpersonal conflicts in HD, is that Projectors should not 'initiate' a resolution but wait for the other person to make the first step (not necessarily an apology, could be anything, even eye-contact). According to HD, if a Projector makes the first step after a conflict, they will alienate the person further.

However, for me personally, this goes against my very nature, and I don't see how it can be applied to each conflict. You might remember me mentioning in your 12H Venus thread that I have a very strong fear of losing people after an argument, leaving our relationship in an 'unfinished' state. So I always aim to resolve conflicts quickly and talk things out. I absolutely cannot stand the concept of 'silent treatment' and see it as wasting precious time. So this might be my personal bias talking, but I think waiting for the other person to make the first step after a conflict, is a good approach only in a few scenarios - definitely not always.

In my personal experience, I've had mixed results with this. The most significant example I can give is my mother, who likes to isolate herself when she feels angry or offended. Since she has a defined Solar Plexus, and mine is open, I have always been able to sense her emotional state. You can imagine all the back-and-forth's we've had over the years with "What's wrong?"-"Nothing."-"But I can see something's wrong?"-"I'm fine."-"Why are you lying, it's obvious you're upset."-"What are you talking about?" She even used to say that me asking her a few times 'why are you upset' was the thing that was upsetting her. So in this sense, me initiating a resolution was definitely felt as an intrusion. However, she's also said many times that she appreciates this trait in me, always aiming to resolve issues, and this was a better way to communicate rather than bottling things up and never addressing them. So, a little confusing to say the least.

As I'm typing this, I'm realising it depends largely on the other person's maturity and awareness. If they know how your energies interact, they should be more receptive to you, the Projector, initiating a resolution. If they are oblivious, they most likely would experience it as an intrusion. Our aura is truly penetrating, and things we see as obvious, might not even be conscious to them - so they react defensively.
Still, I don't think this means we should stay passive in conflicts. It might mean we should be tactful about resolving them?

What is your experience in such situations?

posted May 14, 2015 03:56 PM            

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Originally posted by bluestskies88:
That's interesting Peony about Jim Carrey. Does it say he's a Projector? I cannot see it on his chart.

Other famous Projectors are Queen Elizabeth II, President Obama, Princess Diana,Mark Zuckerberg

Here's a list http://www.geneticmatrix.com/human-design-people-by-type-projector.html

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Carrey's a Generator.

I saw President Obama's a Projector. Hmmmmm, that must be tough for him! I would think a Manifesting Generator would be more suitable for a Potus!

posted May 14, 2015 04:04 PM            

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My father used to brag I wasn't a ham, I was the whole pig.

You can fail at what you don't want, so you might as well take a chance on doing what you love.

The effect you have on others is the most valuable currency there is because everything you gain in life will rot and fall apart, and all that will be left of you is what was in your heart.

My choosing to free people from concern got me to the top of a mountain. Look where I am, look what I get to do! I did something that made people present their best selves to me wherever I go.

Your need for acceptance can make you invisible in this world. Don't let anything stand in the way of the light that shines through this form. Risk being seen in all of your glory.

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posted May 14, 2015 04:12 PM            

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YG, thanks for your feedback! I may be wrong but I think once the Gemini energies are synthesized with the Scorpio-Capricorn energies of the base of your yod - Pluto and Neptune - you will be able to draw into your auric field these archetypal energies in a more conscious or intentional way ? and you won't take things as personally. I believe this is contingent upon aligning ego and soul and then that yod will act as a tremendous source of healing for others because these are outer planets that feed the apex.

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I think the "pain" portion for now is not really coming out as emotional pain - it's showing more as physical pain. I've learned to take things less personal over the years. This was necessary for me especially for the work I do. I like my Capricorn Neptune btw. Neptune rules me and gives me the Pisces quality but the Capricorn side keeps me stay in touch with the reality. Saturn squares my stellium also so I am an idealistic dreamer who dreams out of the box ideas with good realistic rationale to support my ideas! Hahaha

posted May 14, 2015 04:33 PM            

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I think the "pain" portion for now is not really coming out as emotional pain - it's showing more as physical pain. I've learned to take things less personal over the years. This was necessary for me especially for the work I do. I like my Capricorn Neptune btw. Neptune rules me and gives me the Pisces quality but the Capricorn side keeps me stay in touch with the reality. Saturn squares my stellium also so I am an idealistic dreamer who dreams out of the box ideas with good realistic rationale to support my ideas! Hahaha

Because I need a master's degree for my career plan, I am handling FT work and PT schooling. I don't have enough hours in a day to do everything, literally! I rarely sleep and wknd fun are non-existent. Lol. However, my body was very tired, completely exhausted out. For the first time in my life, I really thought I took on wayyy to much and underestimated myself. BUT, I convinced myself that as long as I get used to this new routine of school/work, I will be okay!! I will fight on one day at a time

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Oh, I see. Although I don't believe anything can substitute for getting enough sleep, I have a suggestion: Panax Ginseng, which is in a special class of herbs known as "adaptogenic." Here's what this means:

"Ginseng was originally investigated for its adaptogen qualities. An adaptogen as defined in 1957 by the Russian pharmacologist I. Brekhman, is a substance that (1) must be innocuous and cause minimal disorders in the physiological functions of an organism, (2) must have a nonspecific action (i.e., it should increase resistance to adverse influences by a wide range of physical, chemical, and biochemical factors), and (3) usually has a normalizing action irrespective of the direction of the pathological state. According to tradition and scientific evidence, ginseng possesses this kind of equilibrating tonic, antistress action, and so the term adaptogen is quite appropriate in describing its general effects."

Ginseng also counteracts fatigue. The problem is its hard to find good quality ginseng. If you're interested, here's a website to a source I know. I just checked the website and they give free consultations.
http://www.dragonherbs.com/

posted May 14, 2015 05:17 PM            

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Carrey's a Generator.

I saw President Obama's a Projector. Hmmmmm, that must be tough for him! I would think a Manifesting Generator would be more suitable for a Potus!

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