posted March 04, 2020 02:03 AM              

There are plenty of people that don't believe in Source, and yet the Source exists. There are people that don't believe in Love, or only believe it's a chemical reaction to facilitate procreation. And yet, it exists independently as a living Consciousness that is far more real than anything physical ever was or will be. Ask pretty much any person who has ever had an NDE.

Once in a great while, Cayce's guidance made a psychic gaffe--got something a bit off. However, these were "one offers", meaning they were independent, isolated pieces of information and not something repeating.

When Cayce's guidance repeatedly said something, well to use the old saying, "you can safely bring that to the bank". His guidance repeatedly, over years, made references to Twin Souls and the reality of same.

Cayce's work is not a "religion" for me or in general. Religion requires a person to have "faith". Religions provide no proofs or evidence. [The exception being Christianity and the Shroud of Turin which is a fascinating scientific debate, and it's NOW clear that the carbon dating was done on a newer, repaired part of the Shroud due to it's damage during a Medieval fire. There are cotton threads interwoven into the original flax linen fibers. In any case, there are a number of VERY perplexing questions about the Shroud and it's deeper nature. Such as, why is it the only 2D image in existence than when run through the V-8 image analyzer, it has 3D imaging properties? How was the image formed to begin with? If it's a forgery, or some kind of artistic thing, how did the artist discolor the linen fibers individually to a depth of less than 1/1000 of an inch? Fascinating topic, but I digress.]

Anyways, the unique and unusual thing about Cayce is that he constantly provided verification of things that his conscious mind didn't and couldn't know. One can experience a little taste of this with their local Madame Cleo or what not, often with plenty of distortion mixed in with the hits, but imagine doing this almost every day, at least twice a day, for some 40 years. Imagine these individual readings filling up a book that would be some 50, 000 pages long, and about almost ever subject and topic conceivable?

In other words, when there is proof, evidence, and verification, a source becomes more of a "science" than a religion.

Sure, you have the prerogative to believe or not believe this or that concept, but until you can explain well, how and why such a consistently accurate psychic source would confirm such a thing if it it had no deeper truth or merit, then all you are really left with is "belief" and not "knowing", which are very different things.

Perhaps you have a need to disbelieve it, because your connection with Ray has been so painful in some ways, especially in separation? Maybe you have a need to see him as meaning less to you and your Spirit than he does?

Because, if the Twin Soul concept is true, and if Ray is your Twin Soul, then there is indeed a deeper, Spirit connection between you that is indeed, somewhat unusual and special in nature.

Course, going by my own experience, your other half of Spirit (i.e. his half of Spirit), could very well have other Soul selves going on in this cycle, which means potentially you can meet or have met other Twin Souls.

posted March 04, 2020 02:12 AM              

Mars and Saturn don't give a crap about that kind of stuff lol.

That's the stuff of Venus. In self's chart, Aqua Venus is sextile Sag Neptune and trine Libra Pluto within minutes.

Aqua Venus is an amazingly CLEAR perceiving Venus, but with these aspects, not only is she clear and objective, but she is sensitized, empathic, intense/focused, and passionate. That combined with a closish square to angular Scorp Uranus, and Aqua Venus being angular and ruler of my Moon Sign, along with 7th House Pisces South Node, indicates that self is unusually psychic and intuitive about others. Like ET, look through people's Souls, kind of psychic and intuitive, and I've had people tell me when they meet me and look into my eyes--that is what they feel. According to my Mom, people (mostly women) started commenting on my eyes thusly from the time I was a young baby, saying things like, "That kid sees right through a person." or, "That kid knows something".

You'll have to do better than these kind of illogical pot shots.

posted March 04, 2020 06:34 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Stubbornvirgo just follow your instincts, I let go of my best friend too during Pluto transit on my 1H and it was the right decision for me, I felt it wasn't a friendship of equals and she called the shots and was in control and I grew and no longer felt comfortable with that arrangement and she did not adapt to this, to add the last straw she started calling some new girl she just met her best friend and we had been best friends for a decade. Sometimes when pluto enters a new house it re-evaluates what relationships have outgrown its purpose and she has been in your life for a long time and as you evolve you might outgrow her purpose in your life.

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This definitely seems to be more of what is going on. She supported a lot of my anxiety and fears during my Saturn return and Saturn transiting through my 12th. For example, she discouraged me from going back to school by telling me how hard it was for another friend of hers. She was genuinely doubtful of my abilities.

posted March 04, 2020 06:59 AM            

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Hard work paying off, congrats, and good job StubbornVirgo.

As regards friends, etc. Just remember when Planets are conjuncting the Asc and in the 1st, we take on their energies more overtly and strongly than any other time in our life.

Saturn and Pluto are not known to be particularly loving, aware, or expanded energies. They are symbols that are closely tied in with fear, ego, and selfishness.

I remember when I was under T. Saturn in my 1st and T. Pluto squaring my N. Saturn (ruler of my Sun and Mercury and co-ruler of my Venus and Desc.).

I was the slowest vibratory version of me that I have ever been. That is why it felt so heavy, not because of all the outer testing and challenges (there was plenty), but because I chose to align more with ego, separateness, and selfishness than with Love more often than I care to acknowledge. My ego was extra active and reactive during that time.

My Spouse has latish Cap Rising (around 24*), and I've been seeing her dark side getting stirred up more and more. Hopefully so that she consciously works on it, rather than just being unconsciously reactive and blaming everything on everyone else. Shes been cutting off and out people left and right (unusual for her). Some of it has been necessary and helpful, and some probably not.

There is a fine line between being one's authentic self and becoming overly intolerant of others. Love sees the lack in light in others, but accepts them nonetheless, unless they are truly being abusive or betraying deeply.

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I’m also a late degree Cap ASC.

I can definitely see how Pluto/Saturn crossing the ASC could result in loosing a lot of friends, especially tempered with some impatience (which I’m guilty of sometimes). This particular friend is one that I’ve been through a lot of ups and downs with during this 12th house mess. Unfortunately the friendship has gotten more and more broken to the point of almost being nonexistent while I deal with other things...

I’m definitely not an easy person to be friends with, but I need what few friends I have to have some idea of where I’m coming from / what I’m dealing with. You don’t have to have identical experiences to me, but you should have some compassion.

posted March 04, 2020 12:20 PM              

Those who would grow a lot, tend to go through a lot.

posted March 04, 2020 01:11 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Also, how does it make sense that having Mars and Saturn square Neptune make sense about believing in such a thing?

Mars and Saturn don't give a crap about that kind of stuff lol.

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posted March 04, 2020 01:15 PM            

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Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
This definitely seems to be more of what is going on. She supported a lot of my anxiety and fears during my Saturn return and Saturn transiting through my 12th. For example, she discouraged me from going back to school by telling me how hard it was for another friend of hers. She was genuinely doubtful of my abilities.

The more I open up to her, the more I see her strong misunderstandings, judgments, and the further she pulls away (to the point of outright ignoring me sometimes). During the time in my life when I needed a friend, she was there, but it’s definitely not a friendship for long haul. I can see that now.

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posted March 05, 2020 01:40 PM            

Today Tr venus entered Taurus and I swear to god I feel calm, at peace and the anger is gone. Early degrees venus in aries was near my IC, late degrees venus in aries trines my AC and forms a grand trine with my mars in leo in the 8H.

Its interesting bc while venus was in aries I wanted to be free and just be on my own and disappear into the abyss LOL and now that it has entered Taurus at aries point I started making all these plans to connect more with my husband this weekend since early this morning (without knowing that venus entered Taurus). I was making plans for us to go to the movies and ice fishing ect. I was thinking to myself I Need to forgive him and let the anger go and start truly working on connecting more with him again, we had a fight when venus in aries was at aries point near my IC that I feel I was still upset about the entire venus in aries transit to some extent. Venus in Taurus at early degrees conjuncts my Juno too.

Aries point transits are very powerful.

posted March 05, 2020 07:40 PM            

Then again, if the consequences aren't bad, what's it matter if somebody wants to assign me a label? It does not. I just want to be high 24/7.

posted March 05, 2020 11:31 PM            

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Originally posted by ULT12:
I wonder if I have mild(?) Bipolar. Fortunately, my Moon being in Cap conj Saturn makes the effects of "highs" not mentionable (I hold back 99%; great self-control). Still, Moon opp Jupiter (closest chart aspect, kinda) + Moon conj Uranus (rly wide tho; 8.5deg) has me curious from time-to-time. My mother definitely definitely has it, you'd be blind not to see it Astrologically (Sag Moon sq Pluto(~1deg) + sq Uranus ... + opp Mercury, Sun, Mars), and my [half-]sister's been diagnosed fwiw -- so it runs in the family.

Then again, if the consequences aren't bad, what's it matter if somebody wants to assign me a label? It does not. I just want to be high 24/7.

edit: huh, just checked. Mars went conj my Moon today, and something definitely did happen. tMars-nMoon fits.

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posted March 06, 2020 12:53 AM              

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Your Neptune is afflicted as both Mars and Saturn are making a hard aspect to your Neptune. When Saturn and Mars form a hard aspect to the same planet that planet is considered to be afflicted.

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They are both widish squares (one 6* separating and one 6* approaching), and Neptune has 3 harmonious aspects, two of which are among the closest aspects in my entire chart (less than a degree of separation).

Certainly doesn't feel or act afflicted. Neptunian things have been mostly a source of positive things in my life. For an example, I lived very close to the ocean for 3 years, and was down at the water almost everyday, most of the year. If it wasn't for the ocean in my life then, life would have been much more stressful and difficult. Not only was it a source of calm, joy, and pleasure, but it also helped to meet our practical needs like food. We were poor and had a crappy diet but I would bring home Pollock fairly regularly.

If it was so afflicted, I likely would have had some difficult or negative experiences in connection with the ocean during that time.

I'n not saying that I haven't had any difficulties in relation to Neptune themes and concepts. I have, but ultimately, while difficult, these were very important learning experiences. For example, the way I started meditating when I was 13 was not the smartest way. I left myself unduly open to whatever.

As I was more sensitizing self psychically, I was also getting connected with by some very negative energies, which with a number of issues from body imbalances, to very stressful life challenges, etc led to long term suicidal depression.

2 wide stressful to 3 closer (2 very close) harmonious aspects, kind of evens/balances out. And that has been reflected in actual life and experiences--i.e. both positive, immediately beneficial Neptunian experiences and attunement and also some difficult, challenging Neptunian experiences and attunement.

posted March 06, 2020 02:18 AM              

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Scratch that. I don't want to fight with you anymore Hypatia.. lol not unless it leads to crazy hot make up sex at the end of this black and red rainbow between us, and I just don't foresee that ever happening.

But seriously, I'm not sure what went wrong, but I'd prefer to go back to how it was before, or to the very least, not having this weird tension/enmity.

Yah, one of my Spirit's other Soul selves really mistreated one of your Spirit's other Soul selves, and if he was standing before me right now, I'd slap him in the face and tell him what an ahole he was for doing that. Because of that, I can understand why certain less than positive feelings might come up between us, but at the end of the day, while we don't always agree, I do basically like and respect you a lot.

posted March 06, 2020 01:22 PM            

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Scratch that. I don't want to fight with you anymore Hypatia.. lol not unless it leads to crazy hot make up sex at the end of this black and red rainbow between us, and I just don't foresee that ever happening.

But seriously, I'm not sure what went wrong, but I'd prefer to go back to how it was before, or to the very least, not having this weird tension/enmity.

Yah, one of my Spirit's other Soul selves really mistreated one of your Spirit's other Soul selves, and if he was standing before me right now, I'd slap him in the face and tell him what an ahole he was for doing that. Because of that, I can understand why certain less than positive feelings might come up between us, but at the end of the day, while we don't always agree, I do basically like and respect you a lot.

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hahahahahahaha

I like you too but some aspects I don't like. However this past few months there was a lot of aries energy happening in my chart via transit, mars through my 1H and Venus in aries conjuncted my IC and travelled though my 4H and both happen simultaneously for a good while there. Tr venus formed a grand trine with natal Mars and my ascendant. This combo of mars traveling though my 1H while Venus was in aries traveling though my 4H and my 1H and 4H angles getting activated with Mars/Aries energy was INTENSE. Add that my solar arc MOON is in aries at 27 degrees right now trine my AC conjunct Neptune, looking forward to it entering Taurus in a few years.

IDK I feel ARIES energy took over my body the last few months and now that venus entered Taurus I feel like a normal person again...

Regardless I think you did trigger something and this aries energy made me really react to what was triggered intensely and is not in line with my moon in pisces and saggy rising more chill nature but afterall my mars in leo is in the 8H so I do have an intense mars and moon rules my 8H, I feel my emotions strongly. I think you triggered mom stuff and religion stuff for me as both I feel try/tried to control me and my mind, understand I have mercury RX squaring my nodes opposing my moon in pisces in the 3H, add chart ruler jupiter conjucts my 3H ruler Uranus, I value so much intellectual freedom.

Mercury RX needs to come up with her own conclusions. My mom till this day does not get that I am not religious no matter how many boundaries I have set around this, she still constantly sends me religious stuff, I have a very personal view on spirituality, I love her but she is probably an important part of the reason why I moved so far away from her bc I feel she is so pushy and controlling and I feel even though I love her I truly hesitate strongly to move back to Miami long term bc I don't want to deal with her pushiness and feeling she cannot respect the intellectual boundaries I set for her.

I also don't believe in twin flames and the irony is that talking with you helped me clarify that. Let me explain, the way you look at soulmates makes a lot of sense to me and that is part of the reason why it helped clarify this for me, but it also made me realize that it doesn't matter at all, bottom line is we are all part of a bigger whole when it comes down to it and essentially we are all soulmates, we are all pieces of the same puzzle, your half is irrelevant, we focus so much on half this and half that and we then become more separate from each other as we turn everything into this hierarchy and I feel this twin flame thing essentially ends up generating more obsession, living more in your head and separating more from others as you over focus on the twin soul and your "other half" over others, I believe in soulmates and essentially I feel we are all soulmates. And just like we can love our mother even though at times she drives us completely crazy I think humans feel that way about each other too, hence why often we feel we don't love each other but we just don't love certain parts of one another and is easy to focus on the negative parts at times and I have my imperfections and annoying sides too.

posted March 07, 2020 02:05 AM              

I understand about both the astrology aspect/level and the personal. I can be a little over preachy at times. 99% of the times, I mean well/my intentions are positive though.

I don't doubt some of it related to that triggering you talked about, but I also feel that some is related to unconscious, other life influences. You and I have a fairly strong synastric chart comparison, and there is a lot of "past" oriented connection in relation to romance and deeper sexuality. Like for example, your South Node is in my 5th and closely conjunct my Neptune, ruler of my 8th. Your ruler of the 8th, the Moon, is in my 8th and opposed both my Mars (and thus by proxy my Mars Jupiter conjunction in general, and Jupiter rules my 5th and co rules 8th), and Saturn ruler of my Sun and Mercury and co-ruler of my Venus and Desc, and in turn my Saturn is closely conjunct your Sun.

Then for the more obvious, and less past oriented stuff: Your close Leo Venus Mars conjunction is closely opposed my Aqua Venus, and in my 1st House.

The name I intuitively picked up in relation to you, well it just so happened that if that is correct, several of our Spirit's other Soul selves had close relations of the above type, both in a very passionate AND very stormy sense.

In particular, my other self, John, really hurt Mae. I think Mae loved John, but John was a grade a. arsehole if there ever was one, and he apparently left scars because E.C.'s guidance said that Mae became very bitter and angry towards him. Now, I had a very intense dream about being in the "Akashic Library" and was shown that John and I are part of the same Spirit self, and I got to experience part of John's life, including getting mauled by a bear and slowly dying in the woods until a half Native American, half white woman, who was the healer of her tribe found John.

This dream, 10 years later, got confirmed with a very, very intense and way beyond chance synchronicity with a friend whose husband died out of the blue a few months or so into our friendship. Turns out, she was connected to the half Native American, half white healer woman.

Anyways, we may have a "complicated" and complex past, and if that is so, then it's natural that extremes would come up between us, both positive/feel good and difficult/challenging/tension. The past influences us far, far more than we tend to realize, and especially so when we remain unconscious to it.

Re: Twin Souls--actually, I mostly agree with you on that. Back when I joined here in September, I wrote some longer pieces on Twin Souls, and I often added the caveat that ultimately, we are One with the Whole, and that is more important than specific connections to specific Souls.

But while that is true, until we actually become fully conscious of our Oneness with the Whole--we interact with certain, specific individuals for different reasons. Sometimes karmic, sometimes we just have such a strong love bond with them from the past, etc, etc.

It's just that Twin Soul connections are particularly intense and strong in a lot of ways. However, they are not more important than our interconnection with the all. To me, that is, and always has been most important.

You currently have Jupiter in your 1st House. Jupiter is that of the Universal Consciousness. Jupiter is either my strongest or 2nd strongest Planet. I've LIVED and BREATHED that my whole life, from the dr. everywhere phase when I was little, to devoting self to spiritual attunement as a young teen because I care so much about that Oneness and want to facilitate it as much as humanly possible.

So yes, we actually seem to agree more than disagree on that.

With H. and I, the thing is, I WANTED to forget her, tried to forget her and detach. Normally, I'm quite good at detaching from others or situations. Aqua Venus and all.

But, it was like guidance/my Expanded self wouldn't let me. Every time I made a sincere attempt to do so, I would experience crazy, way beyond chance multiple synchroncities. Then I started to have increasing dreams about her. I don't normally dream about the same person that much.

And wouldn't you know, but after 7 months of zero communication, she writes me.

There is far more than just personality stuff and attachment going on here. Guidance wouldn't have been so involved. The way guidance operates is, it only shows a person what is helpful for them/their path. It does not foster limiting attachments or the like. It is positive and growth oriented. It wants what is best for us spiritually.

The thing is, reality is not black and white and aboslute. There are many differing truths to differing degrees that exist simultaneously. It is too pat to say things like, "twin Souls don't matter at all because we're all One". Yes, it's true that we're all One, but that doesn't invalidate super intense, all Center/level connections like that.

These are well, as long as we don't become over attached to one person at the detriment of growing spiritually and trying to become loving in a more universal and unconditional way. Basically, as to the latter, I've devoted my whole life and most of my energies to that. It is my top priory, and always will be.
But just because we're devoted to Love and to the Oneness of the Whole, doesn't mean that we necessarily need to become celibate monks and live a life detached from personal connections or the like.

posted March 07, 2020 10:34 AM            

At least this semester I will basically have two weeks off of work, so I can have my space while working on my classes.

posted March 07, 2020 01:13 PM              

There comes a point when a Soul just doesn't want to generate anymore difficult karma in relation to others, and I'm at this point. A psychic said that my immediate Soul self (not necessarily my larger Spirit self and other Soul selves) doesn't have any major karma to balance with others. Prefer to keep it that way.

posted March 07, 2020 11:32 PM            

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posted March 08, 2020 12:00 AM            

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Originally posted by ULT12:
I wonder if I have mild(?) Bipolar. Fortunately, my Moon being in Cap conj Saturn makes the effects of "highs" not mentionable (I hold back 99%; great self-control). Still, Moon opp Jupiter (closest chart aspect, kinda) + Moon conj Uranus (rly wide tho; 8.5deg) has me curious from time-to-time. My mother definitely definitely has it, you'd be blind not to see it Astrologically (Sag Moon sq Pluto(~1deg) + sq Uranus ... + opp Mercury, Sun, Mars), and my [half-]sister's been diagnosed fwiw -- so it runs in the family.

Then again, if the consequences aren't bad, what's it matter if somebody wants to assign me a label? It does not. I just want to be high 24/7.

edit: huh, just checked. Mars went conj my Moon today, and something definitely did happen. tMars-nMoon fits.

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posted March 08, 2020 12:17 AM              

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I love that song!

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Am glad you enjoy it Teasel. It's an odd combo of sweet, poppy, slightly sarcastic, and kind of sad/painful or perhaps more so bittersweet.

P.S., I hope you feel fully better soon.

posted March 10, 2020 04:05 AM            

I feel a part of me is missing and the worse part, I don't know what it is. I've been chasing after things I thought would complete me, but it left me feeling lost and empty.

I keep reminding myself I'm fortunate enough to have shelter and a job and be greatful

tSaturn (8h) square Moon (5h) (feeling depressive at times)
tNeptune conjunct Mercury/MC (final conjunction)
tNN conjunct Ascendant

posted March 10, 2020 11:28 AM            

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Originally posted by SimplyLuna:
I don't think I am capable of connecting with others. I want to so bad but I am missing a way to connect. Metaphorically, I can see the person on the other side but I cant reach there, because there's a missing bridge. And if there a is a bridge, when I get across, the person's gone or a mirage. (Observation throughout my life)

I feel a part of me is missing and the worse part, I don't know what it is. I've been chasing after things I thought would complete me, but it left me feeling lost and empty.

I keep reminding myself I'm fortunate enough to have shelter and a job and be greatful

tSaturn (8h) square Moon (5h) (feeling depressive at times)
tNeptune conjunct Mercury/MC (final conjunction)
tNN conjunct Ascendant

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I wonder if you have an intercepted sign in your 7H.

Also saturn square moon I feel can make it challenging to connect emotionally at deeper level with others.

Feel free to start a new thread and Title it "hard time connecting with others" or whatever you prefer. Post your chart using astro.com, go to Free Horoscopes, then go to extended charts, keep the chart drawing style at default.

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Actually just read in another thread you have cancer rising with Saturn ruling your DC, that would actually explain this. You and another person in this forum and my brother all have Saturn ruling the DC and struggle a bit socially. That is tough.

posted March 10, 2020 12:17 PM            

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Originally posted by SimplyLuna:
I don't think I am capable of connecting with others. I want to so bad but I am missing a way to connect. Metaphorically, I can see the person on the other side but I cant reach there, because there's a missing bridge. And if there a is a bridge, when I get across, the person's gone or a mirage. (Observation throughout my life)

I feel a part of me is missing and the worse part, I don't know what it is. I've been chasing after things I thought would complete me, but it left me feeling lost and empty.

I keep reminding myself I'm fortunate enough to have shelter and a job and be greatful

tSaturn (8h) square Moon (5h) (feeling depressive at times)
tNeptune conjunct Mercury/MC (final conjunction)
tNN conjunct Ascendant

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