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Author Topic:   The Kindred Spirits Club.... How interesting.....
Randall
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posted June 20, 2006 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Mirandee, if you post your e-mail address anywhere on the Net that receives a lot of traffic, you will get porn, SPAM, and viruses. SPAMbots scour the Net for e-mails.

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"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll

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AcousticGod
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posted June 20, 2006 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
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KS can exclude all but the chosen ones, but once a Member always a Member?

No, there were a few people who came for a while and then left or lost the link.

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If Magus truly advocates rape and other vile acts, what does that say of those defending him?

Mostly that we're either crazy, huge Jesus-like Christians, or that we have compassion for someone with little self-control when angry.

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It seems that (even though there were lots of positive posts) that it was truly an "anything goes" site.

True enough. Glad you noticed the positive ones.

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What really gets to me is that there were people talking about the things we said in LL, and then they would critique and belittle us (some of them playing the Love and Light card while in LL). Should we talk of excluding some of the worst KS offenders from LL?

I don't know what to say about that, because that did happen a few times.

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Johnny
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posted June 20, 2006 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Johnny     Edit/Delete Message
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Randall..God Bless your big wonderful heart..I think..we should play it out..for unresolved..it will take another negative turn..where here..it is bathed..with LOve and Light..and honestly..many see the truth..

You know, Lotus, you just put something I've wanted to articulate several times now in very good words.

Mirandee, I'll try to find them. I don't think even AG has them, though, but I'll definetly look.

If anyone does have them saved, I'd make a proposal to be accepted or denied that Mirandee gets them - doesn't seem fair she should be out of the loop, at this point.

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Petron
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posted June 20, 2006 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Petron     Edit/Delete Message
randall,

all i would request is that 1 person.....magus, be banned from LL....just based on his past posts here, not anything else.....


as long as his vomit isnt being spewed onto my computer screen, i dont give him a second thought, despite AG's suggestion that i have some kind of "vendetta" against him and that i would go hide at some other website and make violent, pornographic, insane posts about him......

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AcousticGod
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posted June 20, 2006 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
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What really gets to me is that there were people talking about the things we said in LL, and then they would critique and belittle us (some of them playing the Love and Light card while in LL). Should we talk of excluding some of the worst KS offenders from LL?

Two things I'd add:

1. It's absolutely your perogative to boot whoever you like, and I wouldn't defend anyone against that.

2. I'd also think that's it's a thin line of separation to do it via forum or private email. Potentially anyone with their friends email address could comment on LL privately and free of scrutiny.

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Mirandee
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posted June 20, 2006 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you for explaining that, AG. I would have hated to go over that again.

Sorry that my posts are always way behind by the time I post them but this is right after you told salome that you had already explained why you thought it was private.

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Mirandee
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posted June 20, 2006 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
I am protected against those things by Norton Security and Venus Fly Trap, Randall. I have a firewall also. So someone had to have submitted my email address to those sites. No way could anyone get past stealth firewall from Norton Security. I am not even seen on the internet. Least that is what I am paying for.

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Randall
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posted June 20, 2006 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
AG, I meant that basically once a Member, you could not be banned no matter what you said. Even free speech has its limits. To do nothing is to condone it. My parents told me to look closely at who I hung out with, because that is how the world will view me. I must say that I understand that now more so than ever. Fayte, no matter how you feel about Lotus or how differing your opinions, I don't see how you can call her "sick" when your friend is detailing how he plans on brutally raping TINK and killing Jwhop with a sniper, and even now you defend him. Perhaps, it's my disdain for the "bleeding heart" types in society that makes me proud to be Republican. There's no excuse for the inexcusable.

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"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll

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Petron
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posted June 20, 2006 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Petron     Edit/Delete Message
LOL@mirandee

you mean you didnt get a warning from norton not to post your email on a public website?

i guess they mustve been using norton "security" over at the ks website too......

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Johnny
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posted June 20, 2006 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Johnny     Edit/Delete Message
One thing you can do, Mirandee, is mix your e-mail address up so the bots can't find it.

Somthing like "mirandee located at blah blah period symbol commune without the mune"

That works for me, anyway.

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AcousticGod
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posted June 20, 2006 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Ah, I see what you mean, and I can see the justification for thinking that way. That's certainly how I am in my personal life, and certainly those that like/admire me here are generally great people.

There are occasions, however, where you become friends by association. At the time of KS's start up I had to get Sue's friends to ensure keeping contact with Sue. Magus is one of Sue's friends who had her email address.

In my personal life I could relate it to having to put up with a family member who acts inappropriately, or a roommate. You hate to go through it, and you certainly don't let that person define who you are, but you realize you're not going to change that person.

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fayte.m
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posted June 20, 2006 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
RANDALL..
How many times do I have to post that I do NOT CONDONE HIS NASTY stuff like that and HAVE berated him many times!
I am not defending him!
That is vile and nasty!
How many freaking times must I say I DO NOT CONDONE that post!! SicK!
Blecch!
It is sick!
And I said I agreed it was sick! Very Sick!
So what the heck am I supposed to do about it????

I am not his freaking keeper!

I DID NOT CONDONE THAT UGLY THING!

Do not accuse me of that!

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Fayte, no matter how you feel about Lotus or how differing your opinions, I don't see how you can call her "sick" when your friend is detailing how he plans on brutally raping TINK and killing Jwhop with a sniper, and even now you defend him.

I DID not know about the sniper thing!

I have posted and posted over and over on this insane thread about how I DO NOT CONDONE HIM TALKING LIKE THAT!
IT IS SICK!

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Petron
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posted June 20, 2006 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Petron     Edit/Delete Message
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People are already attempting to crucify me, so why not claim my friendship with this sinner?

Mostly that we're either crazy, huge Jesus-like Christians


aww man now i'm laughing too hard to go to sleep

youve been getting too many pastlife readings from fayte man.....who did she tell you you are??

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posted June 20, 2006 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lialei     Edit/Delete Message

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lotusheartone
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posted June 20, 2006 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
You are the company..that you keep..

look..I am being redundent..and going to bed again. ...

Ggodnight..

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AcousticGod
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posted June 20, 2006 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, Jesus was funny wasn't he? Hanging with sinners. Look where it got him.

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Mirandee
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posted June 20, 2006 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
That's your call to make, Randall. But wouldn't you be banning Magus (as Petron suggested) based on what he said at another site instead of LL?

I know that what he said was awful and showed lack of respect for women on his part, certainly not something that I condone at all, in fact it made me sick. But he DID come on this thread and apologize to Tink for saying that. Maybe you should get Tink's feelings regarding banning Magus since he directed the remark at her and apologized to her.

As a Christian when someone apologizes it seems the right thing to do to forgive them. Just my way of thinking. But to me someone saying they are sorry is really asking for forgiveness.

Since I am not without sin I am not going to cast any stones at Magus or anyone else. Especially after they apologized. Not defending what he said or his behavoir, don't get me wrong on that, but I am defending his apology. It has to count for something.

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Petron
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posted June 20, 2006 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Petron     Edit/Delete Message
i think jesus would have at least told magus to shut up....or something.....

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AcousticGod
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posted June 20, 2006 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Are you saying that Magus went on and on? Is there more?

I think Jesus lead by example.

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Mirandee
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posted June 20, 2006 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
Great response, AG I think that Lotus forgets that it was the sinners that Jesus came for not the righteous.

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Azalaksh
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posted June 20, 2006 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
**edited** I have to plan the usage of my time this week and I need to know now about the trial. Please just lay the incriminating evidence out there so we can get it over with and move on. I'd rather be back in the Astro forum talking to people who have questions about their charts, people I can help.

Thanks in advance,
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DayDreamer
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posted June 20, 2006 12:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DayDreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Guys there's life outside of this forum.

Dont let it pass you byyyyyyyyyyyyyy

PS: g'nite everyone

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AcousticGod
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posted June 20, 2006 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Nite DayDreamer!

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Petron
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posted June 20, 2006 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Petron     Edit/Delete Message
last fall when i brought up the magus quotes about tracking down jwhop and sniping him from 300 yards......you were right there defending him AG....saying things like "its understandable he would say that Petron, after all its jwhop he's talking about....."

then sueg made the claim there are much worse things said here at LL than that!!!

of course then that thread was deleted too....the way you guys run around behind him cleaning up his sh!t all the time......

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posted June 20, 2006 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Johnny     Edit/Delete Message
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To do nothing is to condone it.

Possibly that's true, but you have to also accept what you cannot change, sometimes.

Maybe that's just us Pisceans, with 'our live and let live' attitude. I don't have to like everything about a person to like the person, though.

If I thought for a second that Magus truly advocated vile things like that, I wouldn't stand by him. But I think that words can be just that: only words, no matter their monstrousness. And again, I've said some terrible things, myself.

Why, even in this thread, I can't seem to keep my foot out of my mouth.

Edit: Petron, it's not about cleaning up after him - haven't the last 20 pages made it clear that no one defends his words? He isn't here, though, and what are friends for but to stand up for them when they're not around?

If I saw someone attacking your personal character in a way that I thought was unfair, and you weren't around to defend yourself, I'd stick up for you, too, be we friends or not.

I'd like to think I would have stuck up for Tink, too, if I had seen Magus' words about her. Or anyone else who I know well enough to admire. I wish we could let this rest.

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