posted June 20, 2006 05:22 AM         

It has taught me well......

Out of it I have made some good connections, but if I thought it was gonna lead to this ridiculous childish behaviour (and if people wanna include me in that so be it), I would have been more hesitant....

One thing I have learned is how slow people are to say sorry to their fellow man, and how quick they are to defened themselves.....

And despite what you all think, it is often the ones who shoot their mouths off that are genuinely sorry, and will have the b***s to say so....

But what I have witnessed here is UNREAL.....people going on and on and on, trying to prove they are in the right. How sad their real lives dont fulfill enough..... . Look what is out there for the taking,,,love, music, travel, fun etc etc.

Why would anyone who is trying to become more evolved, want to be part of such an environment.

And again, if I did wrong, I am sorry, but at least I have the guts to say so......

posted June 20, 2006 05:35 AM         

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But what I have witnessed here is UNREAL.....people going on and on and on, trying to prove they are in the right.

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posted June 20, 2006 05:48 AM         

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"WHATEVER the soul longs for, WILL be attained by the spirit"

"Love knows not its own depth until the hour of separation"

posted June 20, 2006 06:47 AM         

I am amazed..personally..after all this..it will be amusing to see..how posts go..on the other forums..along with this one in GU..we've all stated our opinions..

now let's move forward..Truth has been brought to light..people..can now see..all of us..the way they want to..
you reap what you so..you get what you give..this carries over..from previous incarnations..BEE GOOD..DO THE RIGHT THING..PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH..
DO NOT HAVE TWO FACES..AND FOR GOODNESS SAKE..DON'T TALK ABOUT PEOPLE BEHIND THEIR BACK..IT'S WRONG!

posted June 20, 2006 07:12 AM         

and as i said above, it will be interesting to see how this pans out..in future days..how will any of us feel..after all that has been said? And how we re-Act NOW..is what is most important. ...

off to work..
Have a Wonderful Day!

posted June 20, 2006 07:50 AM         

I have learned my lessons.....I hope others have too...

I have learned my lessons.....I hope others have too...

Ooops sorry the needle got stuck.......

Good luck guys.....

Slane

Sue O'Gee

posted June 20, 2006 09:10 AM         

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Yeah, Rainbow, Johnny, DayDreamer,Zala, Pix, Lia, Let's Go Party!!!!!!

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Nope sorry. Johnny isn't allowed anywhere without my perimission first. Sorry girls.

posted June 20, 2006 09:19 AM         

"look closely at who you hang out with, because that is how the world will view you."

Very good lessons

I wonder - and this is not a sarcastic jab, I honestly wonder - if the feeling KS members have of being on trial here at LL is a little instant karma for the trials (who is allowed/who isn't allowed)that went on at KS.

I also wonder - and also not a jab - if KS was a little LL karma for too often lately allowing this site, begun with good intentions, to sink into a mudpit.

posted June 20, 2006 10:47 AM         

mudpit or not, i've never found a place anything like this one...and the magic that lives here must be because of you (and LG of course).

love, light 'n blessings to Randall and Lindaland.

posted June 20, 2006 11:59 AM         

Y'all realize you're repeating the same points over and over again, don't you? Some of you, verbatim.

I don't know why this is being given so much attention, but it looks like it'll go on forever. The rest of the site is so quiet because everyone is over here in this cyber trial.

LL is boring lately. I have nothing to contribute to this thread, but nobody wants to play elsewhere.

People expressed their outrage, people apologized...over and over and over and over....

I think you guys are addicted to this arguement, that's why you can't let it go. You're having too much fun out-moralizing each other.

Personally, I don't care if I've rubbed someone the wrong way, and they wish to ridicule me behind my back. God, that's nothing new to me. I know they won't be inviting me to any garden parties. I'd think it was weird if they did.

And if the KS'ers know they were doing nothing wrong, then why do they keep defending theirselves?

And if the non-KS's don't care that some people don't favor them, then why do they keep harping on this?

Y'all are full of it.

posted June 20, 2006 12:11 PM         

You are absolutely right regarding the posting back and forth to anyone here that was a part of the "twit club". I saw that thread as well and it was pretty inane (to use one of my favorite words) LOL..

Mirandee said

"Maybe it would be helpful if you just named those people from KS that you are talking about, Pidaua so the rest of them aren't being incriminated along with them. Who sent you the emails of KS and was that before this thread or after you posted it? See, I have had a weird, funny feeling since this all started that there is someone else behind all of this. "

LMAO... you aren't even in the KS group yet you can't let it go that I won't post more names. I listed the people I considered to be the worst offenders - any more posts concerning who said what about whom is absurd. What do you want Mirandee? To secretely cause more problems for people or to try and push you "investigation into the evidence" away from the group and topic?

It has been said at least 20 times by various people. Not everyone on KS was the problem. However, there was an exclusionary attitude - I listed all "infractions" as I saw them around page 24-26. I will not do it again - read them.

If you fail to understand my point, me repeating is only wasting time.

And let's drop this bullsh1t about this being a damn trial. That has got to be the lamest thing I have heard - demanding me to produce evidence, present my case - this is LL not a freaking court. Who ever e-mailed me crap is between that person and myself. Last time I checked my e-mail was prviate, with the exception of what my employer, the NSA and whatever other service watches me, and I don't have to produce anything to anyone.

LMAO... freaking trial... OMG- sometimes people here are so incredibly weird.

posted June 20, 2006 12:27 PM         

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salome really, both you and Petron are now twisting everyone's words here to suit your own agendas....Mirandee

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Mirandee, you've been lying through your teeth since you showed up on CE and later showed up here.

Just to set the record straight Mirandee, since you lied about me now:

Magus first threatened to whip my ass in so many words. That was not in response to any suggestion I would punch him out for what he was saying at the time. I suggested in so many words that he was free to give it a whirl.

Later, Magus threatened to come down here with his rifle and shot me from long range...in other words act like a sniper and kill me unawares....for what I was saying and what I was saying was in no way was a gratuitous out of the blue personal threat to him.

Everything I told Magus is true. I would take a very dim view of what Magus was suggesting and I did tell Magus some very bad things would happen to him personally if he tried that. I did give my address to Randall and I did ask Randall to email it to Magus and Randall said he emailed it as I requested.

Now Mirandee, everything you've suggested about me threatening people here with physical or gun violence is bullsh*t. What I did say was in direct response to threats of violence, including Magus taking me out with a rifle at long range.

As for acoustic, I never suggested I would come after him for what he was saying. I said leftists choose their venue of where they spout their I hate America nonsense because someone in the public at large would take exception to what they were saying and perhaps give them some lumps for their trouble. Singing to the leftist choir is one thing. Discussing the United States and Bush in terms of imperialism, blood of oil, war for corporation profits, murder, repression, oppression, equating Bush and the US with Saddam and Iraq, the Taliban or Hitler would likely get leftists lights punched out among the population at large. Those are fighting words, expect a fight when you say them outside the confines of the leftist choir.

Those are not direct quotes Mirandee. I didn't go look up any of the posts but those are my recollections of events and the gist of what was said.

Perhaps you are the one who should have gone to look up what was said before you made yet more allegations which are not true and which you can't prove.

If you, or anyone else gets tired, upset or uncomfortable with having their lies crammed back down their throats, there's a simple solution for that. Stop the incessant lying, get your facts straight, stop the personal attacks on Bush and debate issues, not personalities.

That's the reasonable, logical, adult path Mirandee but it's the path not taken by you or other leftists here, or anywhere.

Petron did jump Magus for his sniper comment and he did it immediately and publicly. I believe Petron's point...and it's a point that flows naturally from the fact KS is being presented as a site of love and light, warm fuzzies all around and a non threatening environment where people could express their views..Petron's point seems to be....why the hell didn't someone or everyone at KS react as reasonable, logical, light filled people everywhere would and publicly jump the Magus frame or ban him from the site of love and light?

I have never, ever seen any comment by TINK that could be remotely construed as a viscous, unprincipled, over the line attack on anyone here...including Magus. Nor have I ever seen a comment or rant here which even gets close to what Magus said on KS. The fact...and I accept it as fact...that one person discussed his rant or rants privately with him seems to beg the question of what behavior was permitted at KS. That, along with discussions and comments about LindaLand members leave some questions in members minds here.

What I said initially was pretty mild compared to what could have been said given what was posted. I don't know if we'll ever get the full story of KS in all it's scope as it relates to LL members.

I'm generally not for banning people and neither is Randall as has been shown. One has to be very focused and intent on getting banned and be very far over the line in what they said here for that to happen.

Perhaps it's enough that there will now be some doubts in members minds about the true character of those who come off as disciples of love, light and spiritual enlightenment.

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posted June 20, 2006 12:42 PM         

Yeah, I judged you guys and it didn't feel so good having the shoe on the other foot did it? Obviously not since you are all now offended at being judged for your actions while judging others for theirs. Geez! Just the very thing you accuse me of doing. Okay for you guys but not for someone else. Right? Why? Because you are the right ones and the morally superior ones? Sorry, but Petron and salome just kept prodding the bull and if they know anything about astrology they should well know the effect of that.

Few sites on the internet allow public trials and persecution of members on the boards as this one does, Randall and few administrators would be willing to join in and encourage it so you are not one to moralize over an "anything goes" policy on any other website. You allow people to call each other names and attack each other in the name of freedom of speech here at LL yet disdain it on KS????? Also since LL is a "spin off" of Conscious Evolution which you formed while a member there and some of the CE members also came to this site and stayed here what is your beef about AG doing the same thing that you did? Greg didn't judge you on the threads for doing that but in fact he graciously helped you in establishing LL. Now you will come back and say that LL is not a private site which votes it's members in. Even though they have explained over and over most of them didn't really want it to be private, only a couple of people did. You can kick me off this site for pointing these things out if you wish, but it's the truth. At this point I agree with Sue and wouldn't mind at all not coming here. AG is not stealing your members, Randall. If anything it was your "anything goes" policy that ran them off to form their own site because you allow Lotus to continually harrass people. Many people here will not even post at GU because you allow and tolerate the name calling as part of the political mentality. Which is one of the things wrong about our political climate not something that is right. Most people can't take that kind of negative atmosphere. I even took a year's hiatus away from it and I am pretty thick skinned.

This whole notion of "guilty by association" is ridiculous but has been a prevailing notion in this country since 9/11. It's odd that living in a society of codependency and enabling one would even consider guilt by association. It is amazing what people will look away from and tolerate in our society. AG brought up the best example of that kind of thinking which went unacknowledged by all of you - that under that kind of thinking Jesus who hung out with prostitutes, hated tax collectors and what was considered the dredges of society must have also been "guilty by association." In fact, he was judged that way by the Jews and Pharisees who were also quick to judge and condemn.

Forgive me for being a Christian, Randall and speaking of anything religious on these boards. However, what is taking place here has everything to do with Christian teachings and in fact, any other true spiritual teaching. But in one sense you are right in saying what is taking place here has nothing to do with Christianity or any other religion. Except maybe Jerry Falwell and Pat Robinson's version of religion.

What this thread has served to do is show the true character of people.

Zala, this thread was dying quite a few pages back and would have died had not the administrator of this site, instead of stopping this insanity chosen instead to come in and throw fuel on the fire and encourage it to continue.

posted June 20, 2006 12:56 PM         

and again..how do you and Fayte
give me so much power..I cannot
make anyOne do anything..you can ignore
me..this is a public forum..and it is
my right..to post my opinion..and if you
would take a look at my posts..they
have all been civil. ...

posted June 20, 2006 12:58 PM         

You're travelling through another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind; a journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination. That's the signpost up ahead - your next stop, the Twilight Zone!

posted June 20, 2006 01:00 PM         

Well said!!!

Mirandee... you are a piece of work you know that? How dare you say if the administrator is allowed to speak or not?

"Zala, this thread was dying quite a few pages back and would have died had not the administrator of this site, instead of stopping this insanity chosen instead to come in and throw fuel on the fire and encourage it to continue.

Nice knowing you guys because after questioning the administrator who professes he wants to uphold freedom of speech I am probably going to suffer the same fate as Magus who can't be forgiven even when he apologized. Oops, better watch it or I will be accused of defending the hated wretch when actually I just think anyone who apologizes deserves some forgiveness. "

Then you play a martyr role by insinuating that speaking against Randall would get you banned. LMAO... who the hell are you? Is this the real Mirandee? I guess jwhop is right about you, you can't speak the truth for crap.

Hey as far as you, Solane and a few others go - I'm done with ya. You don't exist my book. This isn't about LL people just ganging up on others- it's not the usual suspects picking on a poor wee lefest as you would like to believe. We have several people here who have all been in extremely passionate verbal battles with each other ALL coming out against the BS that was pulled.

Randall said it, jwhops has said it, Petron, Salome, myself, Isis...etc... Once again- it was the huge lie to this community of pretending to be full of this LOVE and LIGHT crap only to run back underground to laugh at everyone here. I called a few people on this about 3 months ago and was severely attacked and called an Angry B1tch by one of your members (he's not around much is he?) He was the one to pretend to give out such wonderful esoteric advice about enlightenment, only to lose his cool in a second and show his true woman hating colors. That is the company you keep, those are the people you defend.

Then you have the nerve to bring up that Randall revived this thread Oh please. You bash on jwhop, Lotus and yet you defend those that threaten real violence.

My response to Magus was a cause and effect scenario. I stand by it.

posted June 20, 2006 01:09 PM         

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Being right is what matters the most. Being somehow more self-righteous and moral than those you judge seems to matter the most

Yeah, I judged you guys and it didn't feel so good having the shoe on the other foot did it? Obviously not since you are all now offended at being judged for your actions while judging others for theirs. Geez! Just the very thing you accuse me of doing. Okay for you guys but not for someone else. Right? Why? Because you are the right ones and the morally superior ones? Sorry, but Petron and salome just kept prodding the bull and if they know anything about astrology they should well know the effect of that.

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and what you're doing and proclamating is in some way different than your accusation here?

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Also since LL is a "spin off" of Conscious Evolution which you formed while a member there and some of the CE members also came to this site and stayed here what is your beef about AG doing the same thing that you did? Greg didn't judge you on the threads for doing that but in fact he graciously helped you in establishing LL.

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lol...

LindaLand is not, nor was it ever, a 'spin-off' of conscious evloution. this site was well established before the linda goodman forums ever appeared on ce.

and as far as i can see, Linda-Goodman.com wasn't torched upon its immediate discovery by Gregory.

the point is, anyone could come here and read the content, and respond to any name calling, insults or slander. how is that in any way similar to KS??

it isn't.