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DopGang
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posted July 21, 2016 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The gist.
If I'm at all a trigger for a change in behavior (Which was acknowledged) and that change in behavior negatively impacts me and/or our friendship, then yes. It is my business.

Sincerely,
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posted July 22, 2016 02:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 23, 2016 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am glad you are feeling stronger this week Teasel. I have edited my previous post for you.

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posted July 23, 2016 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been feeling the energy of another person so strongly since this full moon, and I am exhausted with it.

My thoughts are disturbed and my stomach upset. They appeared in my dream, and I can't get it out my head.
I asked them to stop trying to get close to me in the dream and hurt their feelings.

I don't know what to do. I want peace from this. So much of it is hidden b y a thin veil, but that veil is what is keeping me safe. Keeping us apart.

It's the intangible nature of it all that is disturbing me the most. I don't have any map for navigating the invisible.

I feel lost.

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posted July 23, 2016 12:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
I have been feeling the energy of another person so strongly since this full moon, and I am exhausted with it.

My thoughts are disturbed and my stomach upset. They appeared in my dream, and I can't get it out my head.
I asked them to stop trying to get close to me in the dream and hurt their feelings.

I don't know what to do. I want peace from this. So much of it is hidden b y a thin veil, but that veil is what is keeping me safe. Keeping us apart.

It's the intangible nature of it all that is disturbing me the most. I don't have any map for navigating the invisible.

I feel lost.



That can be very gnawing. I hope things get clearer soon..

Do you want to talk to this person?

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posted July 23, 2016 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Elysia:

That can be very gnawing. I hope things get clearer soon..

Do you want to talk to this person?


Well we do talk quite regularly. It is everything that isn't said that I seem to be feeling as a heavy energy.

I don't know how to clear the air without entering into a conversation that could cause problems for both of us.

This is really difficult for me because I utterly prefer everything to be out in the open. Perhaps there will be a right time.
In the meantime it's just, weighty.

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posted July 25, 2016 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My mother died tonight. I can't believe it. I finally relaxed, and was making plans for what we'd do when she was out of there. they think the aneurysm burst.

I can't believe it. She was fine, and then she was gone. I can't get my head around her being gone. I saw her, but this can't be happening.

I can't believe all of the ******* things I've worried about, and will worry about again if I live through this myself. **** everything - and anyone who revelled in making me miserable, because there were people who had to actually get me through **** . It isn't funny. None of it. I may be worthless, but not for the stupid crap that some imagined. I want my mother.

This can't be happening. They were marvelling at how well she was doing after two surgeries. Handled both well. **** .

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posted July 25, 2016 01:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, and most of my anger? FEAR. I've been worried about my mother, and about losing the only people I have left. Had left. She wouldn't go to the doctor. This isn't happening. This can't be ******* happening.

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posted July 25, 2016 01:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted July 25, 2016 03:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh Teasel, I am so sorry to hear your mother has passed.
I saw your posts about her illness from time to time, I can tell you loved her very much.
This must be such a shock if she was stabilised and responding well. So unfair.

I hope you have supportive friends and family around you right now.

And no, you are not worthless. Please, with everything you have got, focus on your self-care right now. The only people who matter just now are those who care about you, they will get you through.

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posted July 25, 2016 04:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus2tinkerbell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Teasel you are not alone. Reach out to anyone and you'll see. Even a stranger will be the sister you need.

I'd like to ask Randall to give you my email. We can talk on the phone if you want. I love you T. God bless you and ease your pain.

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posted July 25, 2016 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry about your loss.
I'm not even sure what to say. Lean on those who love you. Keep each other strong.
Wishing you well, wishing you the power to heal.

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posted July 25, 2016 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am so sorry, Teasel. You can call me, too, if you think it would offer you an ounce of comfort.

I have been through terrible deaths, too.

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posted July 25, 2016 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sent.

quote:
Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
Teasel you are not alone. Reach out to anyone and you'll see. Even a stranger will be the sister you need.

I'd like to ask Randall to give you my email. We can talk on the phone if you want. I love you T. God bless you and ease your pain.


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quote:
Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Oh Teasel, I am so sorry to hear your mother has passed.
I saw your posts about her illness from time to time, I can tell you loved her very much.
This must be such a shock if she was stabilised and responding well. So unfair.

I hope you have supportive friends and family around you right now.

And no, you are not worthless. Please, with everything you have got, focus on your self-care right now. The only people who matter just now are those who care about you, they will get you through.


^ What she said.
I'm so sorry.. I don't even know what to say. Words on a screen feel so inadequate.
Our thoughts are with you, teasel. Hang in there.

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posted July 26, 2016 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Teasel, if you have just a moment and are checking here at all can you just give us a small post to let us know that you're still kicking.

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posted July 28, 2016 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ugh. Communication.
While this post could be wrongly thought to be about happenings elsewhere on the site. That's not really why I am posting. In fact, something else happened today. Crap happens every day when it involves me communicating with others.
Today, well, much of this may not make any sense but you'll get the basics. Something broke at work and caused costly damage. I was standing there with an engineer and a machinist. I was telling them that the damage was because the piece that broke off is a few inches long and protection doesn't begin until .70 inches. (I know that's a cloud of fog ) I must have said it three times, at least twice. I walked away to talk to my buddy, came back and they were just then coming to that conclusion.
Ummm. Hello!?!
Sheesh.
It happens a lot. Or I get interrupted and have to fight my way into conversations. Most likely why I enjoy communicating online.
There's a few things that can't be helped online and in fact could be argued as being worse. It's hard to say because it happens in "real life" a lot also.
I come across as upset when I'm not. I mean at work, at home, anywhere. Even those nearest and dearest to me get that confused. Then if I'm actually upset, It's "dramatic".
I feel the biggest hurdle in my life is communication.
Digging into the astrology of it, it makes sense.
There are those who communication is very easy with. Sometimes too easy. A few here who I keep in contact with. It's like I'll say 5 words with 45 words missing. They'll "get" them. Sadly, It's a type of communication that really only works between you and no one else. Which comes with its own problems. Beautiful, but....

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posted July 29, 2016 05:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted July 29, 2016 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars conjunct mercury here. With some squares and trines to Jupiter.
I'm glad someone else relates. Oh, they are in the 12th.

Yes, no in between! Doesn't help that I have a scowling expression if not talking to a friend or work "buddy". I'm not even sure that it's Pluto in first. Could be mars/mercury, could be that mars is less than 1 degree from asc, or simply all of the mercurial energy. It can give that same look because it's observing, analyzing, etc. I do it watching television. LOL
It's also true that my voice seems to get lost as soon as others start speaking. So if I want to be heard then I end up making a scene. Normally I simply go on not being heard. It's less to deal with.
With mercury conjunct mars, in Virgo my mind never ceases. I also have trouble sleeping. I take 15-20mg of melatonin each and every night. LOL I have to.

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Hmm... That might be the environment too..

I've noticed people don't so much listen of their own volition as have to be force-fed audio input. So, the 'loud' people get heard. The polite ones go unnoticed.

I've mercury-conjunct-mars too, but in the 8th. I'm kinda quiet. Don't like our generation's need to make a big announcement out of every unremarkable thing. But that's a different issue.

I guess, in your case - Dop & SV, it's sorta on similar lines as me.. In that, we expect people to 'get' communication etiquette of listening and being (at least somewhat) attentive when someone is speaking to you. That's become really rare these days. -- Partly why I get along with older people..they're more innately considerate. They grew up with those values.

Geez, I sound so nitpicky. Oh well. *shrug*

ETA: Oh great, you guys are insomniacs too? HIgh-five! Let's start a support group here. So far, I've been resisting taking pills. Just coffee coffee to help me not be a grouch at work. But maybe I should. I'll give it a few more years.

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posted July 29, 2016 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I was a small kid I used to of course go shopping with my mother as she looked for purses, shoes, and clothes.
I used to find one of those standing, round clothes racks. I'd find the fullest one that was nearby. One with jeans or something long. I'd crawl in there and lay on the floor. On many occasion I'd fall asleep in there. Tucked away, peaceful. My own little space away from the enormity of the store, the world, and eyes that look at me. In my little fort.
Of course this was stressful for my mother when I'd quietly slip away and she'd lose me. Honestly, she only needed to say my name and I'd come out. Except for those few times that I fell asleep.

I miss those days.

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posted July 29, 2016 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To StubbornVirgo

Well, I can give some run of the mill excuses, which are all true.
Such as not sleeping well, which is a normal thing but has been particularly bad recently. Today seems to be the day that it's really catching up to me. My arms and legs felt like they each weighed 100 lbs.
Work was stressful today. We lack resources but rather than giving us the amount of resources that we need, they insist on tweaking the system when it's really not even close. We need more people. My worst fears with this new work process has come true today. First day that it's actually happened. I knew that it was inevitable and it happened to be today. I signed up to work tomorrow also. WHY DID I DO THAT?! Ugh.
There's other things as well but I suppose some deeper explanation is needed.

Without going in details of my chart. You know, lots of Virgo, lots of 12th, lots of Jupiter and although Pullen doesn't exactly say, Uranus as well. I mean if you look at declinations and other things. Uranus also craps all over my chart. Well we'll just stick to Mercury/12th/Virgo/Jupiter.

So you having Virgo and Gemini may understand this.
Everyone seems to have a peeve that really gets under their skin. No one is perfect and we all have buttons, I think it's safe to say. I have two, really, really bad ones.

One is, I'm great at handling big problems. I'm good at multitasking and taking care of business. However, when I'm pelted all day long with little annoyances, the total effect is an explosion. When the same issues keep repeating themselves, which is what happens at my work. Man, I go off. I mean I seriously lose my mind.
My mind is already going crazy anyway. At least a big issue gives me something to focus that energy on. Little things are more distraction from putting that energy into productive use.

The second thing is, I hate being misunderstood. I sort of feel like this is some sort karmic lesson. Given my chart, my Mercury in 12th, and all those other things. Squares and other aspects. It just makes sense that one of my lessons in life is to handle misunderstandings. Depending on the misunderstanding, it can be handled well or it can be a disaster. Most often, if that misunderstanding involves emotion, it's hell. Total hell. Most often I view the world as "Nope. Not worth my effort." or "this can be fixed. I'll explain it." When there's some big emotional misunderstanding, I don't know what to do with that. It's like being thrown into the battlefield without having gone through training or anything. What would you do?
I'd be shooting anything that moved. It's a bit like that. Thrown into battle, in the dark. Handling webs of emotion that are all confusing and full of misunderstanding. I don't know what to do with that. I become frustrated. Particularly if I feel under attack.

I remember watching a television show where a woman was guiding an inexperienced man with her. They had a dog pack and were going to the north pole. The dogs, well, they are partly wild. Not totally domesticated. Yes and no. They have a job to do. So along the journey the dogs may become excited about various things. Polar bears being one, etc. Well, the pack which normally got along fine, didn't. All of the dogs lashed out at one dog due to having too much anxiety from a bear or whatever. That dog then defended itself. The whole thing settled down. The woman told the man, "Don't touch him. He's agitated. He'll bite anyone right now." (Top Gear - Polar Special)
You can think of this like that.

If you look at that situation. It had a combination of emotional and communication misunderstandings and they just kept coming. Over and over and over.
With Jupiter, trine Mars and Mercury, and Asc. Which are all under tension via other aspects. I go big. When that switch is flipped, the sky is the limit. I mean, I suppose not literally. I've not been in trouble with the law or anything. You know though.

Ok I'm a little lost in my rambling now.
Hopefully that helps.

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