posted April 16, 2009 08:24 PM              

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You're a classic AG! quote: "He was nice and more humble than required."

Madness had such a cult following didn't they!? I was never into them but could see the attraction. The females that followed that type of genre were too detached for me - I couldn't understand their body language and they were way too fashionable - I couldn't keep up. The males seemed to understand something that I couldn't, as well - still don't know - do you have any ideas, AG? Or am I looking too deeply? Maybe they just liked to dress well on modest means and liked the idea of cool and understated individuality with a hint of sardonic humour, teehee.

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posted April 16, 2009 08:45 PM            

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they were as the saying goes, "HUGE"! and despite the quirky, humourous superficiality AG mentions, they were fantastic musicians to a man. woody, their drummer is one of my all time favourites.

ska in england was picked up bigtime by the skinheads, a not very pretty group with a very "sharp" fashion sense probably to balance a very messy, underclass life. bovver boots (yeuch!) and braces(suspenders), sta-prest chinos - a pretty proscribed look, with the shaved heads (boys and girls) and a definite group leaning toward the National Front, though not all of them...

madness adopted that style in reaction to the punk goth stuff, and took it a step further into burlesque/slapstick. i think they regretted the "nutty" label to a degree, because people saw them as superficial. most of them were never "skins" and certainly not national front followers,

the chirpy thing does get a bit old, but in small doses they did some brilliant music that stands up really well...and they're apparently doing well again currently.

sorry got a bit carried away ther!

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posted April 16, 2009 09:32 PM            

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I'm on cell phone now, so I have a diminished capacity for writing long responses. I don't mind a segue into Madness. I agree that they are great musicians, and what they brought to the table was always more exciting than other ska music of the time. Part of the reason I got into Blur was due to their Madness send-ups. Though I lost a couple of the discs I still have my Madness box set. I think I still have a t-shirt and button, too. When I get internet at the new place I'll have to take some pictures.

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posted April 16, 2009 09:39 PM            

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Chryseis, the not relating to detachment comment sounds a bit like earth speaking about air. I don't think I could ever fully hang out with a ska crowd either. I was more of a New Wave-r. My first ever favorite band was Depeche Mode.

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posted April 16, 2009 11:57 PM              

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Do you like The Presets, AG? They are a bit Depeche Mode-like but a bit heavier, I think. The singer is old enough to have been in that era.

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posted April 17, 2009 12:41 AM            

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I haven't heard of them. My favorite modern band is Elbow.

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posted April 17, 2009 01:41 AM              

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I just had a look on youtube - 'Elbow', very positive, well crafted, class vocals. Though I like the music it wouldn't be something I would choose. I'm not very knowledgeable on what I like though and am inconsistent with who I do think I like.

Something that has totally confused me in the last several years is that time and again I like a selection of groups/artists that I never ever thought I would go for. Can you believe it, John Mayer, Maroon 5, Jamiroquai - *shakes head* I don't know what it is.

My time honoured favourites are R&B - not just anything but stuff with soul and deep emotion. Though quite crazily, and in step with the previous list I like OutKast, French music and some woman singing "I wanna sing a song for you tonight - Ya beautiful" and I always forget who she is and what it is called.

Of course I also have a huge range of likes such as Pearl Jam, Creedence, Dire Straits, Neil Young, Bob Dylan, ....all the classic super bands.

And I also like Soulja boy and that type of music.

I must confess though, I can't listen to a lot of music - I find it too emotionally confronting and don't operate very well unless its certain types. So my forays into the music world a sporadic - it's too disruptive and I get off track, lost and am likely to run away and join the circus or something - repression I think it's called, lol

Sorry about the journal writing and self-reflection on your thread! Hope you don't mind.

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posted April 17, 2009 02:03 PM            

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Yes, I agree that Elbow is good all around. Talk about emotion...their Pisces singer expresses things quite beautifully at times. I can see why you say "positive," but it's not quite all positive. I'm not sure I'd like it as much if it were all positive. It has depth, though, which is nice.

It is kind of strange that you like deep emotion, but then find it confrontational and have to withdraw from it. I have a single water planet, and I kind of live vicariously through the emotional music. That's part of the draw.

I enjoy your writing, so please feel free.

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posted April 17, 2009 02:41 PM            

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OMG, AG!
I just discovered "Elbow" thanks to you.
What a revelation! I am loving all the songs I've heard so far...and the lyrics are just fantastic!
Thank you!

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posted April 17, 2009 04:15 PM            

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I'm so happy you share my enthusiasm for them. They really are good, and the lyrics are typically brilliant.

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posted April 24, 2009 01:17 AM            

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AG, I sent you a message on MySpace. You can disregard it now or we can continue to talk there if you wish. SOOOO happy that LL is back!

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posted April 24, 2009 12:01 PM            

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Ok, I'm back. Was unsuccessful trying to register via my cell phone last night.

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posted April 24, 2009 05:13 PM            

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Hiya <waves>

aka CrimsonChyld

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"I'm selfish, impatient, & a little insecure. I make mistakes, I'm out of control and at times I'm hard to handle, but if you cant handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best." - Marliyn Monroe

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posted April 24, 2009 05:13 PM            

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posted April 25, 2009 07:45 PM            

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reverting a little here, but AG did you not rate the specials? i always preferred them to the nutty boys...terry hall was a bit deadpan for me but loved'em all the same.

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posted April 26, 2009 11:10 PM            

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When I tried listening to the Specials, it didn't really do anything for me. I can't remember specifics, but I have the impression that they're boring by comparison.

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posted April 27, 2009 01:09 AM            

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Just popping in here to say HELLO AG!!!

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posted April 27, 2009 10:19 AM            

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Hello!

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Hello!

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posted April 29, 2009 10:11 AM            

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We got internet installed yesterday, but I couldn't get the wireless connection to work, so I'm still without internet.

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posted April 29, 2009 01:39 PM            

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Hello AG. Nice vibe going here i have attempted trying to play the guitar but! My fingers have no sense of co ordination lol. Wont give up though

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posted April 29, 2009 04:20 PM            

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Oh! that sucks

Hope you get everything sorted out!

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posted May 01, 2009 08:28 PM            

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Hopefully I'll get things sorted with the wireless network this weekend.

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posted May 02, 2009 04:05 AM            

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I'd go utterly bug**** without internet.
Which is pretty sad.
LOL.
I move in like 5 weeks. Woohoo!

Internet aside, hope the new place is groovy, AG

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posted May 02, 2009 04:25 PM            

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I thought I'd have to put another call in to Linksys this morning in order to get my connection sorted, but to my surprise my computer connected all by itself. It's good. It works!

Now I can finally share the song I've been working on:

Protect The Ones You Love

There's plenty I could critique about it, but I'm extremely pleased with myself for throwing this together in four days.

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