posted January 07, 2022 10:45 PM            

"As a complex system evolves over time, each iteration of the system – each of the system’s cycles or outputs – provides a new condition that feeds back into the system. This is what J.A. Scott Kelso in Dynamic Patterns (1995) refers to as ‘circular causation’. We are only now coming to see that many significant natural processes, such as those involved in climate change, do not proceed in a linear fashion, but instead turn in upon themselves, amplifying or dampening their own effects, and redirecting themselves. Each new iteration sets the context for the next iteration. New phenomena may be created." http://philosophynow.org/issues/114/Chaos_and_An_Unpredictable_Tomorrow

I have had a very strong affinity with chaos theory intuitively since I was a small child even though I was not exposed to this I would think about chaos theory and the butterfly effect.

^^Jupiter my chart ruler conjuncts URANUS and falls in the 12th and it is also my SOUTHNODE ruler, I think this explains why I was born with this wisdom, why it was innate for me/intuitive yet I have simultaneously have had some important lessons to learn around this bc I have Saturn in scorpio Undecile my Jupiter conjunct Uranus.

Saturn in scorpio needs to feel in control and take control but this undecile to Jupiter and Uranus in the 12th is about flowing and adapting, not getting attached to an outcome and learning to embrace the unpredictable nature of life, including unpredictable endings, learning to surrender to this instead of fighting it and trying to control it

This undecile perhaps gives me the gift of manifestation but it also wants to teach me to not get attached to outcomes and flow with life instead of trying to control the outcome, it wants to teach me to accept life's unpredictable nature and not fall a victim of it but thrive despite it and marble in its mystery.

Transits today:
Tr Venus and SUN conjunct my HARMONIA
Tr Mars conjunct my SOUTHNODE
Tr MOON in pisces at 29 degrees (perhaps the ultimately degree of surrender, you are not in control) conjunct my EARTH
Tr SUN in Cappy trine exact my mercury/northnode ruler.
Tr JUPITER in the 3rd house square my chart ruler JUPITER conjunct URANUS in the 12th.
Tr JUPITER in Pisces trine my SATURN

Natal Saturn Undecile natal Jupiter conjunct Uranus (33 degree aspect)

posted January 08, 2022 09:26 AM            

Uranus and Saturn are in the same place when I felt the pressure to get my Covid booster.

Now that Chiron is direct I am back at THE CONDO. Because my mom tested positive for COVID.

I can take a test on Tuesday. I am a little worried, since I've been living with my mom, and she does not take covid seriously at all. And I have been run down the last few days.

I am taking a home test on Tuesday. Virtual teaching at least two days...for now. I am wondering where Pluto was the last time I tested positive and zoom teaching.

I was so happy to see Pluto moved another degree but now I am starting to wonder.

posted January 08, 2022 11:00 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I feel really calm and at peace today, I am really connecting with the bigger picture this past week. I keep thinking people get so worked up about so many things but in the end the universe was literally created from nothing, from a void so even if a comet hits the earth and wipes out the whole planet we are one big bang away from being reborn and coming back into existence, yes it may look differently how we come back into existence but the point is that we were not in control when we came into existence and we will not be in control when we cease to exist nor how and when we come back into existence so why stress about this and that and this and that; just enjoy the moments of peace in your life and learn to ride out the waves that come your way, control is an illusion and chaos is the one thing that is predictable. We are obsessed with trying to predict and control the future yet we cannot predict or control the future.

"As a complex system evolves over time, each iteration of the system – each of the system’s cycles or outputs – provides a new condition that feeds back into the system. This is what J.A. Scott Kelso in Dynamic Patterns (1995) refers to as ‘circular causation’. We are only now coming to see that many significant natural processes, such as those involved in climate change, do not proceed in a linear fashion, but instead turn in upon themselves, amplifying or dampening their own effects, and redirecting themselves. Each new iteration sets the context for the next iteration. New phenomena may be created." http://philosophynow.org/issues/114/Chaos_and_An_Unpredictable_Tomorrow

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That is a very very wise view, I agree with you 👍.. but that doesn't mean we should not always strive for the better as humans.. we should. 😇

posted January 08, 2022 02:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
That is a very very wise view, I agree with you 👍.. but that doesn't mean we should not always strive for the better as humans.. we should. 😇

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posted January 08, 2022 02:31 PM            

Even before covid happened some people would die of the flue, most people recover from covid, the vast majority, specially at this point. I feel people who suffer from anxiety are programmed to look for things to worry about and hyper focus on it and catastrophize so you add that to the mix and the fact a ton of people suffer from anxiety and we may never get out of this no matter how much things improve, specially with the media also castatrophizing everything bc they make money like that and people listen to the media like they are infallible gods who are good and kind and have no agenda.

posted January 08, 2022 02:40 PM            

Two more well-known to Q people, who had podcasts or radio shows, died in the past week. A Republican who ran for office in Southern California, 46 years old, went to one of those busy conferences/shows they had last month, and she died in the last week or so, too. Kelly Ernby. The people who were banging on about Anthrax being released (by homicidal liberals, or course), were actually sick with covid.

posted January 08, 2022 02:49 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Exactly the media is not telling you that almost everyone is recovering and most people are reporting it feels like a mild cold, it spins everything to catastrophize.

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No, not the media. Doctors, and real people who are dying and being memorialized by people who knew them. People who push the same political stuff, and I will never understand it. I don't know why they want people to die. I don't know why they can't do the smallest thing of wearing a decent mask, when they are around others, especially in public. I don't know why they feel the need to tell others to not wear masks, and to yell at those of us (like me) who do wear them. Tucker Carlson telling his viewers to tell people to remove their masks - totally out there.

I'm mostly avoiding someone that I considered a really good friend, because she told me that the compilation of footage from the phones and cameras of people who attended the rally on January 6th, and then proceeded to storm the Capitol - something they were proud of. She told me, when I posted the link, that it wasn't real. That it was a product of the mainstream media - and I lost it. A good friend following the lead of someone that can do no wrong in her eyes. Someone who is incredibly biased for his own reasons - she went with his gaslighting, instead of believing what really happened.

posted January 08, 2022 03:08 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Everyone is getting covid this past few months but everyone says the same thing, its like a cold, not too bad, the most recent strain is 5 times more mild then the delta strain and the delta strain was more mild than the strain before it, there are treatments and vaccines out there. Everyone who catches it always tells me they got vaccinated so they should be fine! yet everyone I know who has not gotten vaccinated has not gotten covid period, I find that interesting. Regardless, at this point most people who catch it tell me it just feels like a cold.
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Even I feel like there’re too much extremes and propaganda on the both sides. My family was sick with COVID, but my brother wasn’t. He stayed with them in the house. He was only Unvaccinated, but he was only one who didn’t get sick in the house.
I think a part of it his own makeup because he has strong Mars and Pluto.
Nobody went to hospital. They got over it as it was heavy flu.

This vaccine obviously gives much lower percentage of protection than they say and doesn’t work for many people. But they need to push it in everybody to show they control the situation. And who knows what else in it.

posted January 08, 2022 10:56 PM            

This last year I have been learning a lot more about attachment styles and even found myself desiring to take a training that focuses on attachment theory.

posted January 08, 2022 11:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
Even I feel like there’re too much extremes and propaganda on the both sides. My family was sick with COVID, but my brother wasn’t. He stayed with them in the house. He was only Unvaccinated, but he was only one who didn’t get sick in the house.
I think a part of it his own makeup because he has strong Mars and Pluto.
Nobody went to hospital. They got over it as it was heavy flu.

This vaccine obviously gives much lower percentage of protection than they say and doesn’t work for many people. But they need to push it in everybody to show they control the situation. And who knows what else in it.

And, since when government/people in power care about people more than money and politics.

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I have VENUS in LEO conjunct TRUTH exact and its last dispositor is mercury in virgo parallel pluto and mercury also rules my northnode and squares my nodes, as I get older I feel I have gotten good at seeing things really clearly at their core for what it is and sniffing out lies, deception and manipulation and yes both sides engage in fear mongering and I am over it but one side is in bed with hollywood, mainstream media and the educational system so one side has more power to control perception, yet I feel both sides have wisdom that I can learn from too but yes we are in a world filled with misinformation influenced by activism, truth is manipulated/altered/denied to serve causes/agendas and the truth gets flushed down the toilet.

Interesting Transit Truth is conjuncting my MC today.

posted January 09, 2022 08:23 AM            

I am mainly staying at the condo because my husband is coming on January 15th. So I wanted to bail in hopes before my mom gives it to me.

But like seriously, she waits until I come into the house before she tells me she was exposed. She could of text me while I was out and I could of decided what I wanted to do. I had all these fun plans coming up, and with husband coming home I would appreciate if she would have more courtesy for others.

I'm glad it's mutated, to just being like a cold. Maybe someday the whole world can just not make a big deal.

I am not a big vaccine person. I will always be pro choice.

My cousin works in a hospital closely with Covid patients she says pretty much everyone who is hospitalized is not vaccinated.

One of my coworkers tested positive after xmas she was the only one who wasn't boosted. Everyone else tested negative.

I appreciate hearing everyone's thoughts and experiences. I am all for actually having a conversation and not just banging my chest.

I've been an emotional wreck yesterday.

I see now that Saturn is 12 degrees and that means it has started to square my Pluto.

posted January 09, 2022 08:18 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I think my word for 2022 will be Develop which fits Tr PLUTO conjunct the 2H house cusp and trine Sun in the 9th.

If I have to say it in one word it will be DEVELOP but I am thinking more Develop-Grow-Expand.

In the context of the self its develop and in the context of others is Surrender (Let go and Allow), I will hold others accountable but also be patient and give them time and space to figure things out at the pace they are ready to.

Me-Develop
Others-Surrender

Perhaps surrender also fits PLUTO activating my 2nd cusp and 8th cusp, I chose a word for each axis essentially.

I am at peace with the words I have chosen for 2022 .

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hi hypatia.. love those words. seems like you are ready for that extraordinary transit to your sun.

will share my account of transit pluto thru the 2nd here, instead of the christmas thread. sort of at the tail end of it - feels like a long war (been about 11 years, maybe 5 more to go). no planets in cap, just juno at 28°. transit pluto squared sun in 4th a few degrees into the house, and has been squaring venus/mercury in 5th and opposing mars in 8th for the past few years (3rd pass currently i think). was a mess when it began so pluto has been having his way with me. in partial hindsight, kindly bending over and accepting it would have probably been the most effective strategy - "resistance is futile". will have to re-examine when fully out of it.

not entirely sure how to describe this past decade or how to compartmentalize house vs. planet influence. it has been plutonian-ly painful for sure, but also not lacking in its treasures. going thru much trauma/recovering from, losing self/finding self/re-re-redefining self, being okay with major depression, embracing isolation, letting go of outdated values, understanding/learning how to love without expecting something in return and gaining clarity in what is truly valuable. perception with money/resources have been in constant transformation since too. also quit a lot of obvious bad habits and uncovered some less obvious ones (though this might relate more to when transit saturn was in cap). learning how to honor self and to discern those who are good for me vs those who are not. have cut most people from my life since becoming sober from alcohol 5 1/2 years ago. slowly rebuilding on a steadier foundation.

posted January 09, 2022 10:04 PM            

Hanged out with a girl friend today and it was so nice, she has MOON in LEO and it conjuncts my VENUS so come think of it transit MOON in ARIES was trine her MOON and trine my VENUS, lovely.

It made me realize I need to make more girl friends as she is leaving soon next month out of state.

I tend to become friends with people I work with since 11th house ruler falls in the 10th and conjuncts my 2nd house ruler but I need to make friends outside of work too even if they are also counselors but that I don't work with.

posted January 09, 2022 10:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Sauerkraut:

it has been plutonian-ly painful for sure, but also not lacking in its treasures. going thru much trauma/recovering from, losing self/finding self/re-re-redefining self, being okay with major depression, embracing isolation, letting go of outdated values, understanding/learning how to love without expecting something in return and gaining clarity in what is truly valuable. Perception with money/resources have been in constant transformation since too. also quit a lot of obvious bad habits and uncovered some less obvious ones (though this might relate more to when transit saturn was in cap). learning how to honor self and to discern those who are good for me vs those who are not. have cut most people from my life since becoming sober from alcohol 5 1/2 years ago. slowly rebuilding on a steadier foundation.

I shall go with "discernment" and "valuable" as my words for the new year.

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WOW thanks for sharing! I love everything I just read, there are definitely treasures there, a tremendous amount of growth has taken place for you and it was an honor to read it. WOW I mean Love it, this is the phoenix rising from the ashes story indeed.

I love your word for the year "discernment."

posted January 10, 2022 10:35 AM            

I am not even at the climax w/ the Chiron square Uranus transit. It's pretty much feeling very little control no matter what. It's too long to be feeling like this.

Circumstances have me back at condo...to keep the roaches out of my condo I have to eat in my car. I did my first zoom. I am so sick of always being quarantined alone trying to be tech savvy w/ no one here to help me.

posted January 10, 2022 02:03 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:

I have VENUS in LEO conjunct TRUTH exact and its last dispositor is mercury in virgo parallel pluto and mercury also rules my northnode and squares my nodes, as I get older I feel I have gotten good at seeing things really clearly at their core for what it is and sniffing out lies, deception and manipulation and yes both sides engage in fear mongering and I am over it but one side is in bed with hollywood, mainstream media and the educational system so one side has more power to control perception, yet I feel both sides have wisdom that I can learn from too but yes we are in a world filled with misinformation influenced by activism, truth is manipulated/altered/denied to serve causes/agendas and the truth gets flushed down the toilet.

Interesting Transit Truth is conjuncting my MC today.

My husband has Truth conjunct Mercury natally too and this conjuncts my Saturn and PLUTO.

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“The truth is out there” 🙂One side has definitely a better mainstream presentation. I see many people jump at a first thing they’ve heard. I feel like we constantly need to do our due diligence since much contradiction information keeps coming.

posted January 10, 2022 02:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
“The truth is out there” One side has definitely a better mainstream presentation. I see many people jump at a first thing they’ve heard. I feel like we constantly need to do our due diligence since much contradiction information keep coming.

I have TRUTH trine MC. I’ve had many situations when truth about a situation was revealed to me even I didn’t ask for it.

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posted January 10, 2022 02:11 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
And yet the conspiracy theories are embraced, why? People aren't thinking for themselves. They're embracing whatever supports their beliefs. I don't see the asteroid Truth as anything, sorry.

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posted January 10, 2022 02:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Stawr:
I am not going to miss this about my job. This whole school year has just been awful. Even if I test negative I still have to quarantine from work for 10 days. And virtual teach! UGH. Now progress reports are going to be rushed. I almost feel like I should quit my job sooner. My kids were starting to act better. I was going to get a jump start on my progress reports.

I am mainly staying at the condo because my husband is coming on January 15th. So I wanted to bail in hopes before my mom gives it to me.

But like seriously, she waits until I come into the house before she tells me she was exposed. She could of text me while I was out and I could of decided what I wanted to do. I had all these fun plans coming up, and with husband coming home I would appreciate if she would have more courtesy for others.

I'm glad it's mutated, to just being like a cold. Maybe someday the whole world can just not make a big deal.

I am not a big vaccine person. I will always be pro choice.

My cousin works in a hospital closely with Covid patients she says pretty much everyone who is hospitalized is not vaccinated.

One of my coworkers tested positive after xmas she was the only one who wasn't boosted. Everyone else tested negative.

I appreciate hearing everyone's thoughts and experiences. I am all for actually having a conversation and not just banging my chest.

I've been an emotional wreck yesterday.

I see now that Saturn is 12 degrees and that means it has started to square my Pluto.

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